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What happens if 2 different cat breeds interrbreed

post #1 of 27
4/4/11 at 12:27pm
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for example

a norweigian forest and a british shorthair , what is the resulting kitten ?
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post #2 of 27
4/4/11 at 12:45pm
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.

JK, the result depends on dominant traits but can still be pretty random.
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post #3 of 27
4/4/11 at 12:58pm
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haha !

so it won't be either breed of cat ? or one or the other ?
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post #4 of 27
4/4/11 at 1:08pm
Nope it would just be a moggie with some inherited traits.
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post #5 of 27
4/4/11 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.
Brilliant! Just brilliant!
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post #6 of 27
4/4/11 at 3:51pm
^Ducman, you forgot to mention that the kitten would be wearing a corpse paint and listening to black metal. It would probably refer to himself as 'the son of northern darkness'... xP
And unfortunately now I have a very disturbing image of this 'foresthair' in my mind.

But more seriously: The result would be a domestic short- or longhair, a moggie.
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post #7 of 27
4/4/11 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
^Ducman, you forgot to mention that the kitten would be wearing a corpse paint and listening to black metal. It would probably refer to himself as 'the son of northern darkness'... xP
And unfortunately now I have a very disturbing image of this 'foresthair' in my mind
I think TigerOnTheProwl and I are the only regulars who get this joke.
It would be awsome to come across a black and white cat that had very corpse paint looking markings!


When you cross cat breeds you just get a cat, not some new "designer" breed like people try to do with dogs. (a labradoodle is still a mutt to me, btw) Breeders will use other breeds to breed in traits they want at some point, like breeding in siamese or birmens to get points and blue eyes, but it's not random.
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post #8 of 27
4/4/11 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I think TigerOnTheProwl and I are the only regulars who get this joke.
It would be awsome to come across a black and white cat that had very corpse paint looking markings!


When you cross cat breeds you just get a cat, not some new "designer" breed like people try to do with dogs. (a labradoodle is still a mutt to me, btw) Breeders will use other breeds to breed in traits they want at some point, like breeding in siamese or birmens to get points and blue eyes, but it's not random.
Oh, I get it, alright. I don't listen to it, but I know of it through friends. Most black metal comes out of Norway....speaking of which, have you ever seen Black Metal Cookies?
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post #9 of 27
4/4/11 at 7:21pm
Well, if you were to breed a Siamese with a Persian you will have a Himalayan.

They are basically referred to as Hybrids.

A Siamese is a Natural Breed (Doesn't have to be bred with another type of cat to become Siamese,

while a Himalayan does have to be bred with another cat, in particular, a Persian, in order to become a Himalayan (to have the coloropoints.

Pure Persians do not have colorpoints.
Himalayans have the colorpoints.

:o)

Warmly,

Julie O'
p.s. There are many natural breeds and there are many Hybrids that make a whole different cat.
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post #10 of 27
4/4/11 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.

JK, the result depends on dominant traits but can still be pretty random.


LOL! Thanks for the smiles, I needed that!
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post #11 of 27
4/4/11 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by Whisky'sDad View Post
Oh, I get it, alright. I don't listen to it, but I know of it through friends. Most black metal comes out of Norway....speaking of which, have you ever seen Black Metal Cookies?
I've seen that before. It gets posted on metal forums a lot. And while it's true most did come out of Norway (and Sweden) a lot of the new stuff comes from other countries, like France where it's kind of going through what Norway did in the 90s - complete with church burnings. So saying most comes from Norway now is completely false.
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post #12 of 27
4/4/11 at 8:10pm
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I think TigerOnTheProwl and I are the only regulars who get this joke.
It would be awsome to come across a black and white cat that had very corpse paint looking markings!


When you cross cat breeds you just get a cat, not some new "designer" breed like people try to do with dogs. (a labradoodle is still a mutt to me, btw Breeders will use other breeds to breed in traits they want at some point, like breeding in siamese or birmens to get points and blue eyes, but it's not random).
I recently watched Judge Judy and some lady was trying to get back 2 dogs from her brother that were apparently a mix of 3 breeds and she was saying they were purebred. Judge Judy told her quite plainly the dogs were mutts. I got a laugh out of that because I agree with both you and Judge Judy.
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post #13 of 27
4/4/11 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I recently watched Judge Judy and some lady was trying to get back 2 dogs from her brother that were apparently a mix of 3 breeds and she was saying they were purebred. Judge Judy told her quite plainly the dogs were mutts. I got a laugh out of that because I agree with both you and Judge Judy.
Did she play some part in those dogs breeding? or was she just a fool that fell for a nifty name and a price tag? There's a lot of the latter.
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post #14 of 27
4/4/11 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.
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I enjoy your posts
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post #15 of 27
4/4/11 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by Naps With Cats View Post
Well, if you were to breed a Siamese with a Persian you will have a Himalayan.

They are basically referred to as Hybrids.

A Siamese is a Natural Breed (Doesn't have to be bred with another type of cat to become Siamese,

while a Himalayan does have to be bred with another cat, in particular, a Persian, in order to become a Himalayan (to have the coloropoints.

Pure Persians do not have colorpoints.
Himalayans have the colorpoints.

:o)

Warmly,

Julie O'
p.s. There are many natural breeds and there are many Hybrids that make a whole different cat.
I think that Himalayan cats are a colour variation of a Persian - it started with a Siamese/Persian cross but now they are an accepted colourway in the CFA: http://www.cfa.org/client/breedpersianhim.aspx
So, Himalayans are like a normal breed; crossing a Persian with a Siamese isn't the only way to get a Himalayan
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post #16 of 27
4/4/11 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
I recently watched Judge Judy and some lady was trying to get back 2 dogs from her brother that were apparently a mix of 3 breeds and she was saying they were purebred. Judge Judy told her quite plainly the dogs were mutts. I got a laugh out of that because I agree with both you and Judge Judy.

Oh Judge Judy. Though she was probably right, she isn't as knowledgeable with dogs as she lets on. After all, she is one of those "all pitbulls are killers" type of people. Most of the times its not even actual pits!

But back on topic, mutts or moggies are cool either way. Its amazing what you get mixing random breeds. Siamese Maine Coon?

Some cool color combinations out there though...I really like this type:

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post #17 of 27
4/4/11 at 9:49pm
Ahh the Snoeshoe, did they ever get breed recognition?
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post #18 of 27
4/4/11 at 11:29pm
Ooh, that is a pretty pattern! Although it looks like they weren't able to breed out the siamese cross eye on that one.
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post #19 of 27
4/5/11 at 12:36am
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I think TigerOnTheProwl and I are the only regulars who get this joke.
It would be awsome to come across a black and white cat that had very corpse paint looking markings!
That would be great! I should photoshop some pics and add band logos to their fur
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post #20 of 27
4/5/11 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
Did she play some part in those dogs breeding? or was she just a fool that fell for a nifty name and a price tag? There's a lot of the latter.
She was the one breeding those dogs and had "loaned" two of them to her brother.

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Originally Posted by LuvMyParker View Post
Oh Judge Judy. Though she was probably right, she isn't as knowledgeable with dogs as she lets on. After all, she is one of those "all pitbulls are killers" type of people. Most of the times its not even actual pits!

But back on topic, mutts or moggies are cool either way. Its amazing what you get mixing random breeds. Siamese Maine Coon?

Some cool color combinations out there though...I really like this type:
The point I was making with Judge Judy was that I agreed that the new designer dogs out there these days are really just mutts and folks are trying to make big $'s out of them.

Moggies and mutts really are cool but I hate people calling them pedigree.
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post #21 of 27
4/5/11 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by Yosemite View Post
She was the one breeding those dogs and had "loaned" two of them to her brother.



The point I was making with Judge Judy was that I agreed that the new designer dogs out there these days are really just mutts and folks are trying to make big $'s out of them.

Moggies and mutts really are cool but I hate people calling them pedigree.
I was just curious if she was a complete moron or just a fool. Looks like the former. What a waste, there's plenty of mixed breeds in shelters that are just as good.
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post #22 of 27
4/5/11 at 8:52am
Speaking of Siamese, this gorgeous girl fell into my hands yesterday. She was owned by some low-life renters who were getting evicted. When they left (in the middle of the night) they locked her and another kitten up in the bathroom (no food no water) apparently this Siamese turned the water faucet on and they survived. They were found by the real estate agent when she went to check on the house for the landlord. I don't suspect she will be here long, because even being a mix, she is beautiful

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post #23 of 27
4/5/11 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by Naps With Cats View Post
Well, if you were to breed a Siamese with a Persian you will have a Himalayan.

They are basically referred to as Hybrids.

A Siamese is a Natural Breed (Doesn't have to be bred with another type of cat to become Siamese,

while a Himalayan does have to be bred with another cat, in particular, a Persian, in order to become a Himalayan (to have the coloropoints.

Pure Persians do not have colorpoints.
Himalayans have the colorpoints.

:o)

Warmly,

Julie O'
p.s. There are many natural breeds and there are many Hybrids that make a whole different cat.
Actually Himalayans are the same thing as Persian, just a different name used by some organizations. It is not allowed to mix any other breed with Persians (whether it a colorpoint or not), not even Siamese, so if you would do so the result would be a moggie. Yes, the colorpoint pattern came originally from Siamese to Persians long time ago but that outcross hasn't been allowed for decades anymore.

And British Shorthairs got the colorpoint and longhair genes from Persians when Persians were used to save the breed during WWII, but it's not allowed anymore. Again, the result would be a moggie if this outcross would be made today.

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Originally Posted by Arlyn View Post
Ahh the Snoeshoe, did they ever get breed recognition?
Yes, it is an official breed. Not just any colorpointed moggie with white. I've seen them in shows few times but they are very rare.Snowshoe
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post #24 of 27
4/6/11 at 1:54am
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.
Wonderful! Thanks for the laugh!
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post #25 of 27
4/6/11 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by Ducman69 View Post
Ah, the Norwitish Foresthair. The result is typically a polite but pompous kitten that enjoys earl gray tea, dried fish, brown cheese, and lives in an upturned longboat. Often seen watching Doctor Who while wearing a horned helmet.

JK, the result depends on dominant traits but can still be pretty random.

Will have trouble getting that image out of my mind!
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post #26 of 27
4/6/11 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by hissy View Post
Speaking of Siamese, this gorgeous girl fell into my hands yesterday. She was owned by some low-life renters who were getting evicted. When they left (in the middle of the night) they locked her and another kitten up in the bathroom (no food no water) apparently this Siamese turned the water faucet on and they survived. They were found by the real estate agent when she went to check on the house for the landlord. I don't suspect she will be here long, because even being a mix, she is beautiful
Thank God she is a smart girl and turned on the water! You're right. She is beautiful!
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post #27 of 27
4/6/11 at 6:02pm
Amen to that. I had heard before that Siamese are considered the most intelligent naturally occurring breed... and that they will constantly remind you of this fact vocally.
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