Where Have All My Kitties Gone??

jazzmin_flower · Mar 23, 2011

I don't know what happened there, but somehow my "Neutered Kitties" got locked and thus prevented anymore postings. Here is my new and improved "Neutered Cats of Jazzmin Flower" thread. Enjoy.

FANDANGO

HAPPY

RAICHU

ZOE

MERLIN

WENDY

SKIPPY PEANUTTLE

FOXTAIL

SPOOKY

CAPPUCINO

SNOWBALL

FRENCHY

COMET

PIKACHU

CANDY

JABBERWOCKY (he has better photos than this, tho.

I will load them in my photo album soon.)

And not pictured but I am determined to get them in here are: Saavik, Eclipse, Callisto, Calliope, Marzipan & Periwinkle. I have the photos but they are in difficult to access files.

I have a few yet to be neutered cats left, yes, including Taffy, Dinkum, Julius, Sugar Cookie, Georgio, Remy, Starbuck, Emille and Tristan. I hope to get some of them done this year.

These boys are not allowed to mate with the females, not even the spayed girls. There are enough of them for now.

-_aj_- · Mar 23, 2011

Im sorry but your cats look sick and to skinny. if you looked at the previous topic you would know exactly why it was closed from posting

rosiemac · Mar 23, 2011

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

I have a few yet to be neutered cats left I hope to get some of them done this year.

These boys are not allowed to mate with the females, not even the spayed girls.

Is there a reason as to why they can't be spayed and neutered now?

Jazzmin, as Ashley has just said if you look back on the thread it explains why it was closed.

Can l ask what your feeding the cats, because l must admit there are 3-4 in the pictures that look underweight?!

my4llma · Mar 23, 2011

Your cats are beautiful

jazzmin_flower · Mar 23, 2011

My cats are free feeding -- they have great big colorful bowls filled with Friskies - Kit'n'Kaboodle - Meow Mix - Whiskas - Pet Pride Natural - Purina Cat Chow and a few other brands all day. They get canned food once a day.

Yes, Frenchy is a skinny little kitty! He's very tiny. And altho every cat has been sick of course (what cat hasn't ever been ill?) none of them are sick in these photos. They don't like the flash on my camera and often close their eyes. Only one of these kitties shown here has a chronic ailment -- Hilo has arthritis here and there in his joints. I admit that I do have a few cats that do have chronic conditions that aren't life-threatening and they enjoy life very much every day. That is why I am always searching for a daily supplement for each one of them to take for the rest of their lives.

The others shown here aren't skinny -- I will look through my photos to put better ones. Afterall, photos don't always come out quite right.

Here are some more of my kitties that are neutered:

COSMO

here's a better pic of PENGUIN

ECLIPSE was skinny one year of his life, but that was a long time ago. He is wonderful now.

MIDNITE

this is a better photo of CANDY. He hasn't been sick since he was under 1 year old.

SNOWBALL in a better light

SAAVIK had a heart attack and lost weight, but has since been healed of his heart condition. He looks terrific these days!

INDIANA JONES

HILO, the oldest cat of them all is 34 years old and has chronic arthritis that he has had since he was 14 -- that's 20 years!

CALLISTO is actually silver and again, I have better photos than this one. His fur tends to reflect other colors and even looks lavender at times! He's another one of my older kitties. Callisto was thin for one year but has long since recovered from that odd illness.

I have a few more to get ready. With the help of a terrificly simple program that grabs screen shots called "Easy Capture" I will be able to finish sooner than I thought.

cherryblast · Mar 23, 2011

Just wondering, why do you have so many cats??

jazzmin_flower · Mar 23, 2011

To the ladies that were complaining about my cats that are neutered or not neutered yet:

All my cats shown here have been completely neutered from between 9 months (as my veterinarian advised me) to 2 years of age.

I was talking about the young men who adopted my cats over the last year and what they wanted for them. They are men and they have a differing viewpoint from a woman. I always get mine full-neutered. I can't believe in anyone who doesn't really know my cats or veterinarian. One of my vets was doing half-neuters and I never let him do mine. It is my belief that he should do the job right, but he has his quirks. He only does this on request anyway.

You just don't understand about the young men in California -- they really don't like the idea of neutering at all. I met many a man bearing Rottweilers, Pit Bulls (domesticated ones only) and Poodles, Cocker Spaniels -- the men out here never want to get them neutered. So it's their macho trip in their minds.

I don't think you should make such statements until you see actual photographs of my cats hind parts to scrutinize if they are fully neutered or not. Do I need to give you the number to my semi-retired veterinarian to prove it or take photographs of their kitten kabooses?

Just thought I should clear that up once and for all.

As for spaying, I was thinking of writing down all the spay horror stories I have been told from real pet owners or my own experiences but I am wary of objections over-shadowing the point of the tales.

As for my remaining 9 cats that aren't neutered yet, one has undeveloped nuts and probably will never require neutering. One veterinarian has increased his neuter price to almost $100 a cat and the other Doctor is over-worked and underfed. He's skinny! I feel he has too many clinic patients a day to give my kitties the attention they require. He needs another doctor on staff at the same hours to do the surgeries.

My original old chinese veterinarian has moved and is teaching and only came out here to take my Spooky personally for his geriatric kitty makeover. Spooky has already had 4 surgeries to cure him of his feline hyperesthesia, circulatory difficulty, a minor rectal trouble and one minor surgery out of vanity. Spooky is staying with the doctor for a good long time to have his eyes cleared from old-age cloudiness and his teeth cleaned. Spooky is an old kitty!

I would love to live in a state or town where money is no object, but I don't. I am stuck here in California and all of Spooky's treatments are costing $1250 so far. I really wish my veterinarians would do the neuters for free and finish up the last boys right away! I actually do not want kittens again for a very long time.

jazzmin_flower · Mar 23, 2011

The older kitties were abandoned near my home or with friends. Hilo, Callisto, Mimosa, Spooky, Saavik, Indiana, Zoe's mother, Tabbitha, Whisspurr -- some person was always leaving cats near where I used to live. I can remember absolutely every one of the cats or dogs left near my home and here also. It goes on and on and on. I can even write about what happened to each cat or kitten I found near my home as to why I don't have all of them to this day.

Zoe got neutered one month too late and Tabbitha had 4 strapping males. I still have 3 of them and they are big boys. They, unfortunately mated again and made 5 more kittens. I had a lot of ???s as to when is the right month of age to get females spayed and males neutered. My original veterinarian always has advised me to neuter the males at 9 months of age. He never said when to spay females -- odd.

Anyway, I found that he and my current vet that took over his practice have a secret love of kittens and they delight in pregnant cats.

Does anyone want to read about how I FIND KITTIES EVERY DAY out here that are quickly rescued? I'd like to write about them also. It is one of my volunteer jobs (see, I don't get $$ for this job) to search for cats and dogs to rescue every day of the year. It is sooooo worth doing. I would like to write about this soon. I have been doing this task for several years. It is amazing to me that I haven't kept any of those abandoned cats I find out there in town -- if I did that, I'd have well over 100 kitties in my home! ROFL!

I will always choose to adopt males, tho, because females make too many more of themselves.

I loved every kitten they had.

cherryblast · Mar 23, 2011

I'm new here and IMO the 2 last post you are quite hostile.

I don't understand why, maybe i'am missing something.
JMHO

-_aj_- · Mar 23, 2011

and soon to be half-neutered are: Comet - Marzipan - Foxtail
Jabberwocky

your words ^^^ but now your saying you dont practice this???

Personally i think you have far to many cats that you cant care for properly if you cant afford to have them spayed/neutered how do you afford to take care of the kittens you are letting into this world

As for my remaining 9 cats that aren't neutered yet, one has undeveloped nuts and probably will never require neutering. One veterinarian has increased his neuter price to almost $100 a cat and the other Doctor is over-worked and underfed. He's skinny! I feel he has too many clinic patients a day to give my kitties the attention they require. He needs another doctor on staff at the same hours to do the surgeries.

Are you kidding me seriously you have 9 male toms intracting with "low Estrous" females you will have more kittens and the 44 you mentoned in your other friend will more than likely double

I stll think your cats look ill and if they are free fed im guessing some of them wont be getting everything they need to be healthy and that comes across very strongly in nearly all the photos you have posted

feralvr · Mar 23, 2011

You are confused as to why your last thread was closed????? If you read through it, you should understand. Pot stirring again

God Bless the cats in your care

calvin&i · Mar 23, 2011

Really, who are you trying to kid here? You contradict yourself in different posts and go back and edit out your posts when "women" here do not agree with you. There are many men in this forum, though I agree women are in majority, but I doubt they differ in their outlook regarding spaying and neutering. Also I do not think that California men have an extra Y chromosome and are against neutering - atleast not the California men I know and I am sure others in this forum know. Since you spend so much time "internet browsing almost satisfies my need to learn about a zillion topics" why do you need to depend on your vet who are NOT telling you when to spay your cats? Forums like these are there to educate yourself and then if you feel they are contradictory to what your vet professes, go seek another vet's opinion. I really doubt that of the 3 vets you mention here, all would ask you to wait till your males are 9 months old to get them neutered. If they do, please post their names/ names of their clinics here so that people can avoid such misguided vets. Laurie (LDG) did compile a list of low cost spay/ neutering clinics in your area, why not seek them out to keep your cost low?
Your kitties do look sick and some are too thin. The idea is not for you to look for and find pictures where your kitties look healthier. We, in this forum, are all looking out for the best interest of cats. So here's some unsolicited advice:
Rather than spending your time to "look through my[your] photos to put better ones" and doing your "volunteer jobs (see, I don't get $$ for this job) to search for cats and dogs to rescue every day of the year," it will probably be better to look for ways to get the cats that you already have vet care (including spaying and neutering) and keep them healthy. I am sure rescuing is a nobel thing to do but not at the expense of the kitties that you already have.

cherryblast · Mar 23, 2011

Originally Posted by Calvin&I

Really, who are you trying to kid here? You contradict yourself in different posts and go back and edit out your posts when "women" here do not agree with you. There are many men in this forum, though I agree women are in majority, but I doubt they differ in their outlook regarding spaying and neutering. Also I do not think that California men have an extra Y chromosome and are against neutering - atleast not the California men I know and I am sure others in this forum know. Since you spend so much time "internet browsing almost satisfies my need to learn about a zillion topics" why do you need to depend on your vet who are NOT telling you when to spay your cats? Forums like these are there to educate yourself and then if you feel they are contradictory to what your vet professes, go seek another vet's opinion. I really doubt that of the 3 vets you mention here, all would ask you to wait till your males are 9 months old to get them neutered. If they do, please post their names/ names of their clinics here so that people can avoid such misguided vets. Laurie (LDG) did compile a list of low cost spay/ neutering clinics in your area, why not seek them out to keep your cost low?
Your kitties do look sick and some are too thin. The idea is not for you to look for and find pictures where your kitties look healthier. We, in this forum, are all looking out for the best interest of cats. So here's some unsolicited advice:
Rather than spending your time to "look through my[your] photos to put better ones" and doing your "volunteer jobs (see, I don't get $$ for this job) to search for cats and dogs to rescue every day of the year," it will probably be better to look for ways to get the cats that you already have vet care (including spaying and neutering) and keep them healthy. I am sure rescuing is a nobel thing to do but not at the expense of the kitties that you already have.

I fully agree with this post

rosiemac · Mar 23, 2011

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

To the ladies that were complaining about my cats that are neutered or not neutered yet:

Jazzmin, TCS is an animal welfare site where the welfare of animals is priority, so no one is complaining.

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

All my cats shown here have been completely neutered from between 9 months (as my veterinarian advised me) to 2 years of age.

Ok, he's advised you, but did you ask why it's done so late an age when it's usually 6 months?!

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

You just don't understand about the young men in California -- they really don't like the idea of neutering at all..

But your quite happy that they probably let them have litter after litter of unwanted kittens?. And what sort of "young men" are they?. If these are men with pit bulls they could be using the cats to get them more aggresive!

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

As for spaying, I was thinking of writing down all the spay horror stories I have been told from real pet owners or my own experiences but I am wary of objections over-shadowing the point of the tales.

All the members here at TCS are "real pet owners". Again i'm going to quote the rule on spaying and neutering that you would have seen and agreed to before registering

2. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cats. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old. If you take care of a feral colony, please make sure to do so responsibly by practicing TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) protocols within the colony. By spaying and neutering, you enhance a cat's quality of life and improve their longterm health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner/caregiver you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation.

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

As for my remaining 9 cats that aren't neutered yet, one has undeveloped nuts and probably will never require neutering. One veterinarian has increased his neuter price to almost $100 a cat and the other Doctor is over-worked and underfed. He's skinny! I feel he has too many clinic patients a day to give my kitties the attention they require. He needs another doctor on staff at the same hours to do the surgeries.

My original old chinese veterinarian has moved and is teaching and only came out here to take my Spooky personally for his geriatric kitty makeover. Spooky has already had 4 surgeries to cure him of his feline hyperesthesia, circulatory difficulty, a minor rectal trouble and one minor surgery out of vanity. Spooky is staying with the doctor for a good long time to have his eyes cleared from old-age cloudiness and his teeth cleaned. Spooky is an old kitty!.

I'm sorry but these animals need seeing to asap, and seen to by a different practice from the sound of the vets..

cherryblast · Mar 23, 2011

I make sure that all of my cats are spayed or neutered before the come to live me, period.

mystik spiral · Mar 23, 2011

Could this be just a (really) elaborate wind-up? The OP said in one of the first posts that she has a 34-year-old cat...

I have a very hard time believing that.

OP, no offense, but if you are for real, you sound like a cat hoarder. It's nice to want to save as many lives as possible, but when the quality of those lives are diminished because you can't afford vet care, not to mention the necessary procedures to keep from producing MORE lives, you really aren't doing the cats any favors. I have to wonder how many of the cats you "rescue" every day are from litters from your own cats.

ldg · Mar 23, 2011

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

To the ladies that were complaining about my cats that are neutered or not neutered yet:

All my cats shown here have been completely neutered from between 9 months (as my veterinarian advised me) to 2 years of age.

It is the cats that haven't been neutered or spayed about which we express concern.

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

I was talking about the young men who adopted my cats over the last year and what they wanted for them. They are men and they have a differing viewpoint from a woman. I always get mine full-neutered. I can't believe in anyone who doesn't really know my cats or veterinarian. One of my vets was doing half-neuters and I never let him do mine. It is my belief that he should do the job right, but he has his quirks. He only does this on request anyway.

You just don't understand about the young men in California -- they really don't like the idea of neutering at all. I met many a man bearing Rottweilers, Pit Bulls (domesticated ones only) and Poodles, Cocker Spaniels -- the men out here never want to get them neutered. So it's their macho trip in their minds.

It isn't that we "don't understand about the young men in California." First of all, it's ridiculous to speak for all men. And more importantly, as a rescuer, it is your responsibility to find appropriate homes for your animals, and to educate people about the importance of spaying and neutering. It is irresponsible to allow your animals to undergo a surgery that has no medical benefit and does not impact the ability of the cat to reproduce. Removing one testicle does not reduce the amount of kittens in a litter. It is not a practice any ethical vet would employ.

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

As for spaying, I was thinking of writing down all the spay horror stories I have been told from real pet owners or my own experiences but I am wary of objections over-shadowing the point of the tales.

The actual risk of death from surgery in cats is 0.1% (1 in 419). Brodbelt et al. 2008, "The risk of death: the confidential enquiry into perioperative small animal fatalities," Vet Anaesth Analg. 2008 Sep; 35(5): 365-73. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18466167

The largest and most recent study conducted in humans was published in May of 2010. It indicates the risk of death during anesthesia in humans is 1.85%. (http://journals.lww.com/anesthesiolo...ds__A.16.aspx#)

So the risk of death from a spay surgery is FAR lower than the risk a human faces when undergoing surgery.

You wrote on my publicly vieawable messages

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

I happen to believe in neutering all tomcats but not spaying all females. I have experienced and been told and read soooo many spay surgery horror stories that I never want to put my female kitties through that unless it is absolutely required to cure her of a disease.

-- JF --

I hope you read the information I provided and that it helps you understand how low the risk of any "horror" truly is. Your lack of knowledge of the risks versus benefits is somewhat startling for someone involved in "rescue" work. I hope TCS is able to help you learn not only how important spaying cats is, but just how safe it is.

Originally Posted by Jazzmin_Flower

As for my remaining 9 cats that aren't neutered yet, one has undeveloped nuts and probably will never require neutering. One veterinarian has increased his neuter price to almost $100 a cat and the other Doctor is over-worked and underfed. He's skinny! I feel he has too many clinic patients a day to give my kitties the attention they require. He needs another doctor on staff at the same hours to do the surgeries.

...I would love to live in a state or town where money is no object, but I don't. I am stuck here in California and all of Spooky's treatments are costing $1250 so far. I really wish my veterinarians would do the neuters for free and finish up the last boys right away! I actually do not want kittens again for a very long time.

There are clinics able to provide low-cost spay/neuter services, some quite near you. Some may even be free. I will include the information again for you. It was provided in this thread: http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=228450

Originally Posted by LDG

According to Cats In Need (http://www.catsinneed.info/neuter.php),

"For every person that is born, 15 dogs and 45 cats are also born. Pet overpopulation is a Big Problem, as these statistics show."

In fact, 6 to 8 million animals enter shelters every year, and only 3-4 million of them are adopted. The rest are murdered to make room for the next 3-4 million that will then be murdered. The problem, of course, is that cats reproduce at a rate far greater than there are homes for them. According to the Feral Cat Coalition, http://www.feralcat.com/kelson.html, "Ferals are the wild offspring of domestic cats, and ALWAYS the result of pet owners who fail to spay or neuter their animals." Of course, people who allow their non-pure bred cats to breed contribute to the problem, even though their cats may not be roaming.

Some of our members in the San Bernardino/LA area may find this information helpful:

From this site: http://www.aaloc.com/helplinespayneuter.htm, a list of low-cost spay/neuter resources in San Bernardino County:

POPCO offers free or low cost spay/neuter assistance to residents of San Bernardino and Riverside. Please call (877) 44-POPCO, (The BARC site, http://www.barconline.com/info/display?PageID=7386) lists these numbers for POPCO (Pet Overpopulation Coalition) :
San Bernardino: 888-767-2550
Riverside: 951-786-7767

The Humane Society of San Bernardino Valley provides low cost spay/neuter services to pets of San Bernardino and surrounding communities. To make an appointment please call (909) 386-1400. http://hssbv.org/clinic/spay_neuter
Neuter: $30.00 to $50.00 \t
Spay: $47.00 to $67.00

BARC, Benevolent Animal Rescue Committee (909) 389-9552. http://www.barconline.com/info/display?PageID=7386

Pet Assistance (562) 691-3014. The BARC website lists the Pet Assistance Hotline number as 887-772-9738, extension 10#

The BARC website also lists:
http://www.barconline.com/info/display?PageID=7386

Actors for Animals: 818-755-6045 (9am-5pm)
http://www.actorsandothers.com/

City of Highland, CA. Low Cost Spay & Neuter Clinic

Highland Village Pet Hospital
7257 Boulder Aveune, Highland, CA. 92346
(909) 864-7387
Low Cost Spay & Neuter Clinic - Every TUESDAY (call for an appointment)

Pets911 (http://www.pets911.com) has these additional listings:
http://www.pets911.com/services/spay...stalCode=91775

Pasadena Humane Society and SPCA
http://www.pasadenahumane.org/site/P...vices_snip_faq
361 South Raymond Avenue
PASADENA, CA 91105
4.5 miles
(626) 792-7151
Hours: Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday 9am to 6pm, Wednesday 9am to 7pm, and Saturday 9am to 5pm
$50 for females, $30 for males

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The New Hope For Animals Foundation
9123 Hazen Drive
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
18.4 miles
(310) 271-6092
Hours: Please call for information

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Holiday Humane Society - North Hollywood
7301 Fulton Avenue
North Hollywood, CA 91605
19.2 miles
(818) 765-8196
Scheduled surgeries - Tuesday to Friday 8am to noon. Please call for an appointment.

Walk-in Office Calls - Tuesday to Friday 1pm to 4pm and Saturday 8am to 11am and 1pm to 4pm

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Inland Valley Humane Society and S.P.C.A.
500 Humane Way
Pomona, CA 91766
19.7 miles
(909) 623-9777

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CARE aka Cat/Canine Assistance, Referral, & Education
http://www.care4pets.org/
P.O. Box 56631
Sherman Oaks, CA 91403
21.6 miles
(818) 685-9980
(website)
Hours: Visitors are welcome by appointment. Please call extension 4261 to make an appointment.

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Stray Cat Alliance
http://www.straycatalliance.org/
P.O. Box 491214
Los Angeles, CA 90049
22.5 miles
(310) 281-6973
(website)
Hours: Please call or email us at [email protected] to learn more about any of our cats.

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Pet Orphans of Southern California
http://www.petorphans.org/
7720 Gloria Avenue
Van Nuys, CA 91406
23.7 miles
(818) 901-0190
Hours: We are open seven days a week from 11am to 4pm. We are located one block east of Woodley Avenue just north of Saticoy.

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Cats In Need Rescue Chino Hills/Chino Chapter
http://www.catsinneed.info/neuter.php
3820 Grand Ave. (Chino Spectrum Petco)
Chino, CA 91710
23.7 miles
(626) 643-1115
$35 for male; $45 for female

And just a general Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=low+c...ient=firefox-a

hissy · Mar 23, 2011

It's a fine line you walk between rescuing and hoarding. Swallowing myths about cats and how they do and do not reproduce, ends up making you look foolish and diminshes the good you believe you are doing by rescuing so many. If you are not actively looking for homes, spaying and neutering the responsible way, then you become part of the problem- not the solution. Although none of your cats look neglected, I can see in the photos that there are problems with URI and possibly calici or feline herpes. I see ear mites in ears which untreated can lead to deaf kitties. No mention of worming or de-fleaing- how about vaccinating? Can you afford to vaccinate each cat?

I would call you a Kitty Savior, a term I use for people who believe they are rescuing kitties from "certain death" but who lack the knowledge, experience or monies to do it the right way and this just leads me to feel sorry for your cats.

You have bowls of food set out? you have over forty cats- that means you should have forty bowls- My bet, you probably have five or six large bowls which leads to community eating and sharing of germs and diseases. What about water? Do you clean and refresh water bowls daily? Are these cats indoors? Does your house smell like a giant litter box? I bet it does, and I also would bet that you can't smell it anymore- because you are used to the smell.

I see a house with overflowing litter pans, a person overwhelmed in her desire to help all these cats and still taking others in as well as letting them breed- ugh- I see it all the time and it angers me and doesn't allow people who do the right thing in rescuing, like Elicon and LDG and feralLvr to have credence for what they do. You are a train wreck and you need to stop parading these cats here and claiming you are the Be All End all of cat rescue.

feralvr · Mar 23, 2011

Originally Posted by hissy

It's a fine line you walk between rescuing and hoarding. Swallowing myths about cats and how they do and do not reproduce, ends up making you look foolish and diminshes the good you believe you are doing by rescuing so many. If you are not actively looking for homes, spaying and neutering the responsible way, then you become part of the problem- not the solution. Although none of your cats look neglected, I can see in the photos that there are problems with URI and possibly calici or feline herpes. I see ear mites in ears which untreated can lead to deaf kitties. No mention of worming or de-fleaing- how about vaccinating? Can you afford to vaccinate each cat?

I would call you a Kitty Savior, a term I use for people who believe they are rescuing kitties from "certain death" but who lack the knowledge, experience or monies to do it the right way and this just leads me to feel sorry for your cats.

You have bowls of food set out? you have over forty cats- that means you should have forty bowls- My bet, you probably have five or six large bowls which leads to community eating and sharing of germs and diseases. What about water? Do you clean and refresh water bowls daily? Are these cats indoors? Does your house smell like a giant litter box? I bet it does, and I also would bet that you can't smell it anymore- because you are used to the smell.

I see a house with overflowing litter pans, a person overwhelmed in her desire to help all these cats and still taking others in as well as letting them breed- ugh- I see it all the time and it angers me and doesn't allow people who do the right thing in rescuing, like Elicon and LDG and feralLvr to have credence for what they do. You are a train wreck and you need to stop parading these cats here and claiming you are the Be All End all of cat rescue.

Amen to that.

Jazzmin, we are trying to help you and your cats, I know you always feel attacked here, but you are WAY in over your head with the amount of cats you can properly care for and they (and you) need assistance. I don't even think you realize you have a problem on your hands and the cat's are the ones paying the price for you not realizing this. That is why this is so sad and why this is so hard for us here at TCS. We see a need, and we want to help. It is just part of why we are all here, for the cats.......

white cat lover · Mar 23, 2011

I don't know how you handle over 40 cats - I have 18 total (12 indoors right now) & it's constant upkeep! They're all S/N - there is absolutely no reason to not have them fixed by 6 months at the latest. Heck even the moronic farm vet here spayed my "low estrous" female ASAP once I caught her, I was going to wait as I had higher priority spays but he gave me a cut rate so I could afford to get her done right away.

You may feel like you're being attacked, but your cats do not all look healthy. Even my outdoor/farm cats look healthier/fatter than some of yours, and they've lived outdoors in the cold winter here.

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TCS Member

TCS Member

TCS Member

TCS Member

TCS Member

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