Where Have All My Kitties Gone??  

I don't know what happened there, but somehow my "Neutered Kitties" got locked and thus prevented anymore postings. Here is my new and improved "Neutered Cats of Jazzmin Flower" thread. Enjoy.



FANDANGO




HAPPY


RAICHU


ZOE


MERLIN


WENDY


SKIPPY PEANUTTLE


FOXTAIL


SPOOKY


CAPPUCINO


SNOWBALL


FRENCHY


COMET


PIKACHU


CANDY


JABBERWOCKY (he has better photos than this, tho. I will load them in my photo album soon.)

And not pictured but I am determined to get them in here are: Saavik, Eclipse, Callisto, Calliope, Marzipan & Periwinkle. I have the photos but they are in difficult to access files.

I have a few yet to be neutered cats left, yes, including Taffy, Dinkum, Julius, Sugar Cookie, Georgio, Remy, Starbuck, Emille and Tristan. I hope to get some of them done this year.
These boys are not allowed to mate with the females, not even the spayed girls. There are enough of them for now.

My cats are free feeding -- they have great big colorful bowls filled with Friskies - Kit'n'Kaboodle - Meow Mix - Whiskas - Pet Pride Natural - Purina Cat Chow and a few other brands all day. They get canned food once a day.

Yes, Frenchy is a skinny little kitty! He's very tiny. And altho every cat has been sick of course (what cat hasn't ever been ill?) none of them are sick in these photos. They don't like the flash on my camera and often close their eyes. Only one of these kitties shown here has a chronic ailment -- Hilo has arthritis here and there in his joints. I admit that I do have a few cats that do have chronic conditions that aren't life-threatening and they enjoy life very much every day. That is why I am always searching for a daily supplement for each one of them to take for the rest of their lives.

The others shown here aren't skinny -- I will look through my photos to put better ones. Afterall, photos don't always come out quite right.

Here are some more of my kitties that are neutered:

COSMO


here's a better pic of PENGUIN


ECLIPSE was skinny one year of his life, but that was a long time ago. He is wonderful now.


MIDNITE


this is a better photo of CANDY. He hasn't been sick since he was under 1 year old.


SNOWBALL in a better light


SAAVIK had a heart attack and lost weight, but has since been healed of his heart condition. He looks terrific these days!


INDIANA JONES


HILO, the oldest cat of them all is 34 years old and has chronic arthritis that he has had since he was 14 -- that's 20 years!


CALLISTO is actually silver and again, I have better photos than this one. His fur tends to reflect other colors and even looks lavender at times! He's another one of my older kitties. Callisto was thin for one year but has long since recovered from that odd illness.

I have a few more to get ready. With the help of a terrificly simple program that grabs screen shots called "Easy Capture" I will be able to finish sooner than I thought.

To the ladies that were complaining about my cats that are neutered or not neutered yet:

All my cats shown here have been completely neutered from between 9 months (as my veterinarian advised me) to 2 years of age.

I was talking about the young men who adopted my cats over the last year and what they wanted for them. They are men and they have a differing viewpoint from a woman. I always get mine full-neutered. I can't believe in anyone who doesn't really know my cats or veterinarian. One of my vets was doing half-neuters and I never let him do mine. It is my belief that he should do the job right, but he has his quirks. He only does this on request anyway.

You just don't understand about the young men in California -- they really don't like the idea of neutering at all. I met many a man bearing Rottweilers, Pit Bulls (domesticated ones only) and Poodles, Cocker Spaniels -- the men out here never want to get them neutered. So it's their macho trip in their minds.

I don't think you should make such statements until you see actual photographs of my cats hind parts to scrutinize if they are fully neutered or not. Do I need to give you the number to my semi-retired veterinarian to prove it or take photographs of their kitten kabooses?

Just thought I should clear that up once and for all.

As for spaying, I was thinking of writing down all the spay horror stories I have been told from real pet owners or my own experiences but I am wary of objections over-shadowing the point of the tales.

As for my remaining 9 cats that aren't neutered yet, one has undeveloped nuts and probably will never require neutering. One veterinarian has increased his neuter price to almost $100 a cat and the other Doctor is over-worked and underfed. He's skinny! I feel he has too many clinic patients a day to give my kitties the attention they require. He needs another doctor on staff at the same hours to do the surgeries.

My original old chinese veterinarian has moved and is teaching and only came out here to take my Spooky personally for his geriatric kitty makeover. Spooky has already had 4 surgeries to cure him of his feline hyperesthesia, circulatory difficulty, a minor rectal trouble and one minor surgery out of vanity. Spooky is staying with the doctor for a good long time to have his eyes cleared from old-age cloudiness and his teeth cleaned. Spooky is an old kitty!

I would love to live in a state or town where money is no object, but I don't. I am stuck here in California and all of Spooky's treatments are costing $1250 so far. I really wish my veterinarians would do the neuters for free and finish up the last boys right away! I actually do not want kittens again for a very long time.

The older kitties were abandoned near my home or with friends. Hilo, Callisto, Mimosa, Spooky, Saavik, Indiana, Zoe's mother, Tabbitha, Whisspurr -- some person was always leaving cats near where I used to live. I can remember absolutely every one of the cats or dogs left near my home and here also. It goes on and on and on. I can even write about what happened to each cat or kitten I found near my home as to why I don't have all of them to this day.

Zoe got neutered one month too late and Tabbitha had 4 strapping males. I still have 3 of them and they are big boys. They, unfortunately mated again and made 5 more kittens. I had a lot of ???s as to when is the right month of age to get females spayed and males neutered. My original veterinarian always has advised me to neuter the males at 9 months of age. He never said when to spay females -- odd.

Anyway, I found that he and my current vet that took over his practice have a secret love of kittens and they delight in pregnant cats.

Does anyone want to read about how I FIND KITTIES EVERY DAY out here that are quickly rescued? I'd like to write about them also. It is one of my volunteer jobs (see, I don't get $$ for this job) to search for cats and dogs to rescue every day of the year. It is sooooo worth doing. I would like to write about this soon. I have been doing this task for several years. It is amazing to me that I haven't kept any of those abandoned cats I find out there in town -- if I did that, I'd have well over 100 kitties in my home! ROFL!

I will always choose to adopt males, tho, because females make too many more of themselves. I loved every kitten they had.

Can't you all just enjoy the cats? How many times are you all going to repeat about spaying and neutering? I stated several times now that I totally believe in removing my male cats kitten-makers. It has been done to most of them and some of those cats don't live with me anymore. My veterinarian says to me everytime I bring him a male kitten to neuter them at nine months of age. I have been seeing him since 1977 so I should be able to trust his recommendation -- it is his ruling that they be neutered at nine months of age. I even tried to get them to neuter them at 5 months, but even his head veterinary assistant stated again: "Nine months". She's the smartest woman in the clinic so she better know what she's talking about. She runs the front office and does a lot of hands on assisting with the animals and has been working with my veterinarian and beyond, now that he is semi-retired. She is there to this day, running everything smoothely. The new veterinarian hasn't told me which month of life to neuter them in which I think is up to him, isn't it? Again, the head veterinary assistant, who is a woman, told me "nine months" is the proper age.

My cats, unfortunately, are able to reproduce at eight months -- I found that it was eight months of age every time they reproduced. And NO, the intact males are not allowed to interact with the females at all without my supervision, to which the females are removed from their area within five minutes. It is astonishing how quickly those cats can make kittens -- I timed one set that made three kittens in eight minutes. They do, unfortunately, slip out past me when I am carrying loads of laundry to do.

The eight minute kittens were wanted, by the way, by a boy about 12 years old that is a cousin of mine that works volunteer with more veterinarians, including my original chinese veterinarian and his brothers. He loves those kittens (now grown) very much, along with the father cat that made them. The males are completely neutered and the female had her ovaries out under the care of four veterinarians.

The father cat is half-neutered and kept from interacting with the females, altho the risk is greatly reduced. I explained to my cousin that he made those kittens in eight minutes at eight months of age, so that he understands the male cat makes them too easily. The four of them are all loved very much and the male father cat is in training to do cat tricks and antics to entertain for Disney. Marzipan will be entertaining kids for Disneyland/UniversalStudios/Knott'sBerryFarm here in southern California.

There a lot of factors that go into why I have so many cats, but I get the impression that some of the women here have made up their minds to be contradictory no matter what is the fact or isn't. I also believe it is every woman's right to see both sides of the story and oppose only for the sake of argument, opposing any statement they hear. Can't a person consider both the pros and cons of any given situation? Women turn things back and forth, flip-flopping on every issue out here. Yes, I can actually see what is wrong with allowing cats to reproduce and what is right with it at all on the same day without anyone explaining the smart-woman rules and beliefs to me again and again.

I can't believe that a site that is supposed to be dedicated to the love of cats is against the basic fact that a cat starts out as a kitten and was born somewhere to some female cat. The constant opposition here to members trying to enjoy and love their kittens is shocking. Can't a person love their cat and sometimes wish it would get lost for having fried the television that afternoon??

As for rules, I've heard them - read them - seen them - lived them - all my life here in California. Where I live, the police and firemen have a list of city rules wherein it has been written for a very long many decades that any household in the town where I live can house up to 99 cats! The list of animals have set numbers of how many of a variety of animals can live in each house, including 1 giraffe (I hope they mean the Toys R Us Giraffe). The problems of cats and dogs are everywhere, not only in my home.

Defending myself is irrelevant, altho I have to say that I am a totally honest person and I always speak the facts about everything. I have to say that several women here have insulted my integrity without really knowing me, probably because they think it is their woman right to oppose every statement they read that ruffles their feathers.

I have only two skinny female cats at present -- one is spayed and the other is low-estrous. The white one is wild and The black one that was spayed is too reclusive and it might be from lack of hormones. I said some of my cats have chronic health problems, mainly recurrent gingivitis and only four of them. Treatments fail to cure it permanently and the gingivitis comes back, flaring up now and then. Other problem is over-hot skin and feline alopecia. None of that points to FeLV. I actually only have four with that condition and the fur does grow back in eventually and they cool off again. Unfortunately, it recurs.

I do not keep any of the rescued kitties and dogs we find out here since Tabbitha and she was actually adopted from a neighbor who kept letting her pair of siamese/ragdoll cats, Chocodile and Rosebud, reproduce constantly and I counted -- she had the 99 kittens! I am amazed I only took one and I wish I had not had to. As a matter of fact, Tabbitha presented with an interesting tail of introduction which I might share here if I can ever stop reading about spay and neuters as the main topic.

Back to the rescue animals: The animals that we find were all in "good homes" and removed from their apartments when the "good owners" were at work, then ejected and abandoned in the towns near where I live by people who claim they are paid to do this. The rent-collectors were suspected for possibly attempting to force the eviction of tenants who were behind in their rent, but the majority of them were found not guilty of this charge. The catnappers are being arrested but there seem to be a never ending trail of them. This happens so constantly that the owners of these cats and dogs should have caught on by now that the town they live in is a hot spot where the cats and dogs are kidnapped from their good homes -- it happens over and over again in that area. Finding a cat a good home may seem a minor expense for the original owner, but keeping them in the good home is next to impossible.

I feel I am doing amazing work for all the animals to be alive when the firemen and policemen and their male volunteers pick the kitties and doggies up. They handle all their medical and work with my veterinarians and their EMTs and many more veterinarians all over the area, altho they also have to use their own moneys from their personal checking accounts and haven't received raises since 1989. They do get most of the males neutered and the females get ovectomies if they can get the $ collected. The cats and dogs the police and firemen keep in multitudes in their apartments are kept similarly to mine, altho there are more people to care for them The males are are kept apart from the females so that they cannot reproduce easily in the meantime.

Yes, I had a problem with too many intact males, and I am happy that half of them have moved to new homes where they are loved and wanted. I strongly encourage the new owners to keep the males from interacting with the females without supervision until they are completely neutered or in the event new kittens are wanted. Half-neutered males make far less kittens!

The cats need rescuing and a place to live, but there are no more funds available out here to start new rescue/placement services. The women that run the pet-placement services that were already established are the only groups that get the funds in the name of their service. Even they are using their personal food/rent/expense moneys to care for the numerous animals. The cats now stay with them, which I know is a better living environment, and they showcase them at Petcos and Petsmarts in my area, but they are also-overcrowded. As a cat-rescuer, my group found many many of their carefully placed cats out here ejected and abandoned. Yes, their cats were very well-groomed and in purrfect health, but even they had many catnapped and through our efforts, the ejected cats were returned to their care. Were they finding good homes for them? Yes, but the fact is that those cats are out here being rescued again and again. The police spoke to them about the situation and are returning cats every month.

The police determined that to place the cats again only leads to the continued catnapping cycle. We find seven live cats a day on average, except for very rainy days.

Are there too many cats raining down in California? YES.


When I look over the forum pages I can see dozens of ill animals with worse conditions than any of mine ever had. My cats, when they are that ill, I take them for initial veterinary urgent care, and take them each three times for more injections and I tend their needs for a few days to several months before I determine that I can't heal them at home. Then I turn them over to my veterinarian, altho it breaks my heart, for their continued care. If he takes them, he can keep them on IVs and give them all the injections and costly medications they need. All my cats, once they were healed, were taken by new owners that I totally approve of. As with any home some do better than others, but all my cats that I gave to them through my veterinarians are all alive and enjoying quality of life. I hear about the cats now and then. My 34 year old cat was living up north for several years and has now come back to the area. Hilo is being checked up again by his original veterinarian to determine if he needs anymore healing or lifelong medications. That Hilo always takes dexamethasone for his arthritis, on and off.

Speaking of dexamethasone, one of my veterinarians dispenses it all the time and the other refuses to use it ever, so there is always some form of healthy or unhealthy opposition.

I think that is very responsible of the veterinarians here in California to take the pets from any of us, altho I feel they are too secretive about it and choose to tell us the pet will be put to sleep. And they often put possum ashes and bones in an urn or wooden box instead of the beloved pet, but that is their policy and not up to any pet owner. I have learned that the animals rarely are put to eternal rest in a veterinarian's care.

It is not my intention to be hostile to anyone here, but when someone insults my integrity, I have to react and I feel I am being very reserved about it since I do not enjoy arguing with others.

And if the majority of women here at the Cat Site Forums are going to go on obsessing about spaying and neutering above everything else, I will most likely be taking my cats and leaving as that topic isn't the only topic to discuss about cats.

The situations out here are difficult, yes, for any pet owner. As I said, others that have their animals taken from their apartments illegally are constantly getting another pet to replace the last one. I don't think that's a good idea, this idea of disposable pets or that is time for the pet to "go with the Angels" is a poor excuse for pretending they don't know what is really going on. The medical costs on tests and some medicines rises too frequently, especially for dogs. The food for the pets goes up at every store several times a year. Right now I am grateful for WalMart's ability to keep the prices on their foods down and my cats are being treated to some of the specialized foods. Yes, it is difficult for me to place my cats and some of the people that took mine also have too many.

Are there anymore of you that are going to preach about spaying and neutering? All the cats I have photographed on this thread are neutered altho some 1 month or two too late.

Cats happen -- they reproduce too easily and too many at a time. I personally believe that a female cat should not be able to birth more than two kittens per pregnancy and that they should be allowed to reproduce seldom. It is my intention to have all of my female cats reduced to only being able to carry two kittens at a time. You ask me do I need more kittens? Nobody needs kittens in the first place, but kittens happen.