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post #1 of 31
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Hi everyone,

Im new to the forum, and still learning about cats. I was hoping you might have some tips for me or be able to provide any insights.

I just picked up a 9 week old snowshoe siamese yesterday afternoon and she isnt in the best of shape. Im pretty sure she has worms, because her belly is just HUGE while the rest of her is really skinny and lacking good muscle mass. She was being fed CRAP food (the lady couldnt even really tell me what, because she was just getting whatever was cheapest), and given only milk to drink, no water. She has diarrhea and just generally smells... I gave her a bath as soon as she got home yesterday because she had nastyness caked on her paws and smelled BAD. Today I'm having to wipe her bottom regularly because she's just a mess from the diarrhea. She also has a couple REALLY small bald spots on her. Im assuming it's from poor nutrition and HOPING it's not ring worm.

Im going to be calling first thing Monday to get her to the vet asap. In the interim I’m giving her EVO wet food, and have dry kibble available to her, although she isn’t interested in the dry food, and she has a big bowl of water that she’s lapping up like there’s no tomorrow. I also gave her a dose of Revolution to kill the worms and whatever else she might be carrying… and, yes, she is quarantined from the rest of the house right now because I have a 10 month old Siamese Mix and ferrets as well….

Aside from getting her to the vet, which Im planning on doing tomorrow, do you have any other suggestions as to what I could to to help her feel better? I just feel so bad for my little girl.
post #2 of 31
Honestly, you've done what you can for today. The vet visit tomorrow should put you on the path to correcting the rest.

She'll likely have icky stools and a bit of a messed up GI for a bit from the neglect. Make sure she gets a good kitten food or mix a little KMR in with the Evo for a few weeks. A probiotic, like bene-bac or whatever the vet suggests, can help, too.
post #3 of 31
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Forgive me for being so new to cats.... What's KMR?
post #4 of 31
KMR is Kitten Milk Replacer and can be found at the pet store. It's a substitute for mom's milk for young kitties.
post #5 of 31
Thread Starter 
Thanks! I was actually looking at some at the store today but the only kind they had was Hartz, which is a company that I've learned to stay away from like the plague with ferrets. Not sure how it actually is for cats, but I imagine not much better.

Is there a different brand that would be better that I should look for? I have a really good pet store near me that can order just about anything for me.

Also, at 9 weeks old, is she too old for that now?
post #6 of 31
She really is, but because she's in such bad shape, the nutrients in it will really help her health. You can also get Science Diet a/d from the vet, which is loaded with good stuff for kitties who are bad off.
post #7 of 31
Poor thing! It sounds as if she found a friend in you, though. Good luck (and let us know what the vet has to say)!
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by motoko9 View Post
Poor thing! It sounds as if she found a friend in you, though. Good luck (and let us know what the vet has to say)!
Agreed

Welcome to TCS btw!
post #9 of 31
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Actually, I have some A/D here!!! I keep it on hand for the ferrets for exactly that reason. I was just worried it would be to rich for her given the horrible food she was eating before. I'll go mix some in with the EVO wet food she's eating right now though and I'll pick up some KMR tomorrow morning too.

The scary thing is that this lady thought she knew EVERYTHING there was to know about cats. Even tried telling me it's illegal to get a rabies shot for a cat in the state of CT... UGH! I was just happy to get her out of there before something really bad happened to her.
post #10 of 31
Pet Ag makes KMR. They also make another small animal milk replacer that works for kittens, too. As well as different stages. I'm talking about the powder mix vs the pre-mixed.

Since most kittens come to me in rough shape I usually let them have a bit of KMR mixed with their wet food (and slowly use less and less) until they're no longer interested in it in their food. This usually happens around 12wks or so.

Some kittens can get a bit constipated from it, so be on the look out for that.
post #11 of 31
Warming up the food and feeding smaller offerings more frequently will help her, too. Don't overdo the amount, just steady feedings. You could mix in the pedialyte with the food as well.
post #12 of 31
All great advice. But just one question....was this person a breeder? IMO she should be reported to someone. The condition of your kitten when you got her is appalling.

post #13 of 31
That poor baby, I'm so glad she found you
I agree, something needs to be done about her previous owner.....people disgust me.

I hope your baby gets better soon there's some healing vibes for her.
post #14 of 31
Thread Starter 
Vet appointment is at 3:30 this afternoon! WOOT!!!

My boyfriend and I talked a lot about if we should report the previous owner and we're not entirely sure what to do about it in all honesty. Yes, she considers herself a "breeder", although, she's NOTHING like any of the ferret breeders I've had the pleasure of knowing. The tern CRAZY cat lady has a whole new meaning for me now...

The problem is that I dont know what animal control would do. She has over 20 cats in a 3 bedroom appartment, but, there's litterboxes EVERYWHERE and the cats are actually using them. Yah, it smells BAD, but not to the point of making you vomit. And while they're being fed absolute CRAP, they're still being fed. So, my plan is to talk with the vet this afternoon. Let her check over Nestle. Tell her about the conditions in the house and everything i saw there and see what she suggests. She may make the decision herself to call animal control, or she may tell me that while yah, it sucks and isnt anything I would ever do to any animal, it's not "criminal". So, That's my plan. I'll talk with her and do whatever she suggests on both fronts. If she finds criminal neglect wth Nestle though, not only will be calling animal control and the police, but I will be handing them Nestle's nedical records in the process!!!
post #15 of 31
Is she a member of a breeders association or something? I don't know much about breeders..

Poor babies.....is there a landlord who knows she has 20 cats? I don't think they would be too happy.
post #16 of 31
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In your experience, with the good food, and proper care, how long does it usually take for a kitten to stop smelling like this? Even this morning, my son held her for a minute and at 8 years old, he commented that she needed a bath and smells. She's had baths the last 2 days...
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
Is she a member of a breeders association or something? I don't know much about breeders..

Poor babies.....is there a landlord who knows she has 20 cats? I don't think they would be too happy.
She said she is, but, from what I've read online, a lot of the "breeder associations" out there don't actually monitor anything. It's just you submit paperwork saying who you are and pay the annual enrollment fee and your in... Doesn't really mean much.

As for the landlord... Yah, the home owner knows. It's a 4 apartment house in the city and the landlord lives in one of the units. You'd have to understand the pure ghetto factor of where this woman lives to see how this could be thought of as acceptable behavior...

Although I'm pretty sure the town has an animal control bylaw limiting the number of pets a person could have without having a legal "business' for breeding and filing all the paperwork... Hmmmmmm....
post #18 of 31
The smell will get better after a week or two. Though it's less common in kittens, check her anal glands. If she's had diarrhea they may not be expressing properly, and then a kitty can smell funky. The vet can show you how to take care of them if need be.

Good luck at the vet later.
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
Though it's less common in kittens, check her anal glands.
ok, I have no idea how to do that... lol But I'll be sure to ask the vet about it this afternoon!
post #20 of 31
Something else to ask the vet about is a probiotic. That will help build the good flora in his intestinal tract and help combat the effect of the worms and any medication he might get.

As for the woman you got him from, you can always contact the SPCA or Humane Society.
post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by Nestle'sMom View Post
ok, I have no idea how to do that... lol But I'll be sure to ask the vet about it this afternoon!
Turn her around and look at her butt. A dark spot on either side of her anus means there's stuff in her anal glads.

Some kittens will also have smelly butts (smells cheesy) separate of that. It seems to go away after diet improves and they're worm free. Though some will sort of pooch their butts out. I have no answer as to why that happens, maybe a hold over from kittenhood when they expected mother cat to take care of that…
post #22 of 31
I was told by petsmart kmr was no longer being sold. I never go anywhere else so not sure if that meant just petsmart or all stores. Petsmart sells GNC and 21st Century but to be honest if shes 9 weeks maybe a better idea to just stay to solids as who knows how much nursing she had and what her body could handle far as milk...water and wet food will do this one alot better.

Fa as the smell I took a 6 week old from a bad scene and he stunk for days-he was/is fine just like how cigarette smoke gets on everything this cats fur had the smell for about a week after...MANY baths too!
post #23 of 31
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Update from the Vet:

Nestle is going to be ok. The Vet had the same thoughts I did at first exam though... She did a fecal test which came back negative for everything. She was shocked at the amount of mucus in her stool though... She checked for ringworm and any other fungal infections and all were negative. She also did the normal kitten exam and all was well there! Nestle's butt got to the point this afternoon where it's actually starting to bleed now... So, the vet said I could use desiten and corn starch powder on her as needed to help sooth her little tush.

We're still waiting on the FIV and Feline Leukemia results, and I should have those in the morning.

So, bottom line, ALL of this was cause by really poor nutrition and cows milk, and that's something I can easily fix, and AM fixing! The vet said it will be another 3-4 days until her tummy feels better based on the amount of mucus in the fecal sample, and the smell should get better with that as well. All in all, I have a kitten that will be perfectly healthy!
post #24 of 31
Fecals are often false negative. Fully deworm this kitten (for tapeworms, keep up with thre Revolution). I've never had a fecal find tapeworms, even in cats with them.
post #25 of 31
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I'll call tomorrow and see if there's something she can give me just in case. Is there something specific I should ask for? Will the revolution take care of tapeworms too?
post #26 of 31
Revolution takes care of round and hook worms, the box even says that.

Droncit and Drontal are used for tapes. The latter will also treat other worms. Provided that the kitten is healthy enough to handle it, the vet should be fine letting you come pick up a pill for her.
post #27 of 31
Yep, Revolution will take care of the roundworms and hookworms, but not the tapeworms. Also, tapeworms don't show up on a fecal. You actually have to either see the worm casings or the worm dangling from the anus to KNOW they have them. Most young kitties coming from such a situation would just automatically be treated for them without a fecal exam.

Fortiflora is probably the most common probiotic. You can just sprinkle it on wet food and the kitty will eat it. I have given my kitties plain human grade acidophilus before and that's helped.
post #28 of 31
Same here, as far as tapeworm goes. Fecal tested negative, yet Kittica kept puking and coughing. A few days later, she actually threw up a nasty sample. Then we got some deworming something (forgot what it was, but it was put between her shoulderblades).
post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by Nestle'sMom View Post
So, bottom line, ALL of this was cause by really poor nutrition and cows milk, and that's something I can easily fix, and AM fixing! The vet said it will be another 3-4 days until her tummy feels better based on the amount of mucus in the fecal sample, and the smell should get better with that as well. All in all, I have a kitten that will be perfectly healthy!
Good news! I'm glad to hear she's well on her way to recovery.
post #30 of 31
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Yah, Im really excited. And she's starting to calm down a bit. The first couple days here all she did was cry. Which, with her being siamese, was a LOT of crying... lol She's getting to know us better, and was even playing last night which was nice to see.
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