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Do you know if raw carrot is a good filler for an overweight cat?
Don´t want her to feel hungry though.

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There's no harm from raw carrots. Whenever I cut up carrots I usually drop a piece or two which is snatched up and played with, then gnawed on. Most cats won't like the stronger taste a carrot has.

Your idea of a filler isn't too far off, though. Instead try mixing canned pumpkin (not pumpkin pie filling, cats shouldn't have additives and sugar) with her wet food. Provided that your cat doesn't have any GI issues under vet care that could potentially contradict it (IBD, megacolon, etc) canned pumpkin is safe. It's pretty much a calorie empty fiber filler that can also help hairballs to some degree.

If your cat is on a vet prescribed diet, has GI medical issues, or just in case, consult your vet first. Make sure your cat is getting the adequate amount of calories from a good food for her age and size as that too could make her hungry when she shouldn't be.
Also make sure she doesn't have worms - they can be easily missed and will make a cat eat more to make up the calories lost to the parasites.
 

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Originally Posted by strange_wings

There's no harm from raw carrots. Whenever I cut up carrots I usually drop a piece or two which is snatched up and played with, then gnawed on. Most cats won't like the stronger taste a carrot has.

Your idea of a filler isn't too far off, though. Instead try mixing canned pumpkin (not pumpkin pie filling, cats shouldn't have additives and sugar) with her wet food. Provided that your cat doesn't have any GI issues under vet care that could potentially contradict it (IBD, megacolon, etc) canned pumpkin is safe. It's pretty much a calorie empty fiber filler that can also help hairballs to some degree.

If your cat is on a vet prescribed diet, has GI medical issues, or just in case, consult your vet first. Make sure your cat is getting the adequate amount of calories from a good food for her age and size as that too could make her hungry when she shouldn't be.
Also make sure she doesn't have worms - they can be easily missed and will make a cat eat more to make up the calories lost to the parasites.
I have yet to have a cat who likes veggies ...
 

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Yeah, Ritz turns up her nose at all vegetables or fruits.
But she does like (cooked) oat bran cereal. When I finish eating my share, I accidentally on purpose leave it out so she can lick the bowl. She needs the fiber, so sayeth her litter box.
 

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Originally Posted by sharky

I have yet to have a cat who likes veggies ...
A childhood family cat of mine liked many veggies. He'd eat lettuce, carrot, potatoes, cucumber, tomato (stole them off the plants if the cherry tomatoes had split their skins any), he'd gnaw on celery, eat raw corn, green beans… Honestly, I think he'd try to eat most veggies if he got ahold of them. He didn't like fruit, though.

Currently I have Tanna that likes raw spinach and will beg for it. But I figure that's sort of grass like to her.
 

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Fillers for cat food..  

I make my own kitties food.  In addition to their meat, I add raw carrot...  However, I grind it up in a Vtamix(r)  first so that it's pureed and nothing to chew.  My kitties love it as well as sweet potato.  I also use chia seeds added to chicken broth (unsalted) to make a gel and add thisto the food.  Chia is a good filler and makes a great snack for my kitties.

In case anyone is interested:

My food recipe is:

1 whole chicken (i try to use organic)

2 large carrots

1/2 sweet potato

2 livers

2 hearts

1/2 cup of green peas

2 TBS. taurine

15 pro biotic capsules

gently boil chicken till it literally falls off the bone.  Take out the large bones (femur, etc.)  cool chicken in a colander.  Cook sweet potato in broth just until you can get a fork into it easily.

Take two cups of the broth and let it cool.  Add 1/2 cup chia seeds and let sit until it makes a gel.

For this next step, I use a Vitamix .(glorified blender that will grind even small bones)

Grind the raw carrots, cooked sweet potato, peas, into a paste.  Add taurine and empty the capsules into the mix.  Grind again. (make sure the mixture is cool first or it will kill the probiotics).  Add cooked chicken, grind again.  Add chia seeds gel mixure and grind again.

Makes about 8 cups of food.  I have two cats. I feed this in the morning and evening, but I give dry during the day.  This recipe lasts me a month with two cats.  When i feed it, I mix it with a little water so that it is like a smoothie.  They go nuts over it.
 

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Fillers for cat food..  

I make my own kitties food.  In addition to their meat, I add raw carrot...  However, I grind it up in a Vtamix(r)  first so that it's pureed and nothing to chew.  My kitties love it as well as sweet potato.  I also use chia seeds added to chicken broth (unsalted) to make a gel and add thisto the food.  Chia is a good filler and makes a great snack for my kitties.

In case anyone is interested:

My food recipe is:

1 whole chicken (i try to use organic)

2 large carrots

1/2 sweet potato

2 livers

2 hearts

1/2 cup of green peas

2 TBS. taurine

15 pro biotic capsules
How did you come up with this recipie? This doesn't seem like a complete balanced diet for cats. Do you add any vitamin or mineral supplement? Cats need calcium and other things in their diet. Bone is a good source of calcim but only uncooked bone. Cooked bone splinters too easily and may injure a cat (mouth injury, perforated stomach or intestines in the splintered bone gets that far). Many people here will disagree about the need for veggies and other fillers in a cat's diet, especially a raw or home cooked diet. A home cooked diet is great if it is done correctly. There is info about home cooked diets here: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/264153/home-cooked-cat-food-resources
 

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Hi,

Firstly, I do not claim to be a medical expert.  I would like to point out that since you "quoted" me, you should include the ENTIRE recipe and not an excerpted version.

My recipe also calls for Chia Seeds.  Chia does have quite a bit of vitamin E as well as B vitamins and is an excellent source of many other minerals.  Also, I use the WHOLE chicken.  including the FEET.  The feet (when simmered) fill the broth with a gelatin that is good for bone health (according to my physician)..  by the way, I go to an Asian doctor, so I believe they have some different ideas than westerners do as far as nutrition.

I purchase my WHOLE chicken, hearts and liver at an Asian market. (in case anyone wants to know where to get this)

I noticed that (my mistake) I do not have the chia listed in the top portion, but it is stated in the directions to mix the chia with the broth.  I perhaps could have been more clear about that.  This was intended to be an "idea" for the previous poster, not medical advice.

However, the biggest mistake here is that you also did not include the portion size nor did you include the FACT that I SUPPLEMENT my cats diet with this.  I mentioned that it makes 8 cups. I mentioned that these 8 cups will last my TWO cats about a MONTH  If you do the math, you will be able to determine that they only get a small amount of this daily (2xs daily in fact)..  Also, I mix this with water to make a "smoothie"  (mentioned in my post).  I feed this before their dry food in the morning and at night.  Their biggest source of nutrition is a dry food made by Natural Balance.

I posted this in response to someone asking for ideas on "filler" for an overweight cat.  

I realize that many people will disagree with me. In fact, many people will disagree to just about anything, including feeding raw food.  

Again, my post was in response to someone who has an overweight cat looking for filler ideas.

This recipe will provide a good source of fiber.  It causes my two cats to eat the rest of their food (dry food) more slowly.  

Also, one of my cats vomits every time he eats raw egg.  There are lots of cats with sensitive digestive systems.  Many recipes (even many of those prescribed by veterinarians) can and do cause gastro issues.

I have found that this recipe works very well for us.  Your mileage may vary.  Notice that I said it makes a "good snack".

Have a terrific day!

ps.  Look up Chia seeds and Chia gel.

Check out this link about Chia

http://www.purehealingfoods.com/chiaInfo.php
 
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