Sophie has another rodent ulcer

I noticed it on Sunday night. Under her chin again but further to the left

I've kept an eye on it because it had dried up a lot yesterday, and more so today.

My question is, does it warrant a vet visit everytime one appears or can it disappear?. Plus would it help if i washed it with a mild soap?.

I don't want to stress her with a vet visit, but if she needs to go for an anti-inflammatory shot then she'll have to go

One thing i have just changed is her food. I've just ordered some skin and fur kibbles to see if that helps. She had her salmon oil much to her displeasure because she won't take it in her food so it had to be smeared on paws

I've never heard of rodent ulcers until I joined here....what exactly is it?

It's just like a tiny sore?, but some can get quite large. Sophies is only about 3mm. Once she had an anti-inflammatory shot it dried up completely within 3-4 days

Thankfully it's nothing serious but this link explains more

http://www.vetbase.co.uk/information/rodent-ulcer.php

EDIT : I've decided, i'm taking her to get a shot this afternoon and to have a good chat with the vet about these ulcers.

I think that you make the right decision to have Sophie checked again and a talk with the vet is definatly in order Susan.

Sending vibes for clear communication with your vet...
Sophie :

Good luck at the vet

Thanks and I hope everything turns out ok at the vets

Sophie

I don't know what i can do to stop them coming back?. Their bowls are always cleaned after they've ate, their brushed every other day, and i swiff the hardwood floors to keep the hair and dust down, and now i'm changing their food?!

Originally Posted by Rosiemac

I don't know what i can do to stop them coming back?. Their bowls are always cleaned after they've ate, their brushed every other day, and i swiff the hardwood floors to keep the hair and dust down, and now i'm changing their food?!

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You are Hazel Susan....
your home is always immaculate.

Are you suspecting a possible food allergy?
Hopefully Sophie's vet will have more in depth info for you today.
If not, maybe it would help to ask for a referral to a specialist.

My Pinky has had them chronically for years and I don't take him in every time one develops. He'd be on steroids most of the time if I did that. Most of them go away on their own and he only goes in when they don't clear up or they get large.

I've noticed some things that contribute to his flare ups. Anything that triggers feline acne seems to trigger ulcers - plastic bowls, plastic mats, not sterilizing regularly. I also noticed that oily foods trigger them. Since I replaced all of those long ago and he still gets them, what is left is his stress levels. He was good for a long time until the last 6 months when he started losing his cat buddies. They aren't as bad as in the past, but he is still getting them. I use pred for Pinky because to fully cure his ulcers, he needs 3 shots spaced at 3 weeks apart for them to be effective. He hates the trip to the vet therefore I med him at home.

Hmmmm....you just changed their food?

Poor little Sophie!

Originally Posted by Momofmany

Hmmmm....you just changed their food?

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I just ordered it online yesterday so they haven't had any yet, but i know to mix it in gradually. It's Royal Canin Skin and Fur that i've ordered. As long as i can remember, Sophie has always had dandruff and a strip of oily fur along the bottom of her back, but the dandruff isn't as bad now because i brush them every other day. Their bowls are stainless steel as well.

I've wondered if it's stress through Jack, because he wants to play and she doesn't which ends up in her running away after she's hissed at him?. Other than that they snuggle up together no problem?

I think i'll get some Rescue Remedy in their water as well.

This one has really dried up a lot, but in this case i'll still take her because of me wanting a chat as well about it

oh no i hope it goes ok at the vets and he might be able to suggest something for Sophie

Originally Posted by -_aj_-

oh no i hope it goes ok at the vets and he might be able to suggest something for Sophie

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He'll probably give her another anti inflammatory because he said it could happen again and she'll just have another one, but if theres something i can do at home like Amy it's better for Sophie's stress levels.........and mine!!

For Sophie and hoping all goes well with her appt. Poor little darling Hope she gets those ulcers cleared up soon.

How did it go at the vet's? Jamie has had an occasional ulcer, but not for several years. I make sure there's no soy or beet pulp in his food (he's definitely allergic to both). He was getting salmon oil once a week for maintenance, and it helped. Now he gets a big dose every day because of his HCM. He doesn't like the prescription supplement much, but I've been persevering.

She had an anti inflammatory shot again. Myron (Vet) said theres nothing i'm doing wrong, it's just one of those things like we get cold sores. He said she may get 3 a year and mentioned how sometimes they can be seasonal.

I asked if theres anything i could do such as wash her chin, but he said that wouldn't help either. I asked if she could be stressed and he said theres no way Sophie looks stressed, then after he gave her the injection she put the side of her neck on my hand for a scritch, then slowly walked into her carrier. Myron looked at me and said "She's definitely not a stressed cat!!"

What he's told me to try is half a capsule of Evening Primrose mixed in her wet food, but he said they sometimes go away on their own, but if it doesn't to go back for another shot if it gets really bad, but hopefully it won't be for a while

Thanks for your everyone

Aw, poor Sophie! Just adding my vibes. !!!!!

Too bad this keeps turning up, but a good thing that it's identified and not a serious problem. Good on your sweet, unstressed kitty for being so calm.

I had a friend who's cat had Feline Eosinophilic Granulomas
(Linear Granuloma, Collagenolytic Granuloma) on the paws of her front feet. Steroid shots are treatment of choice for these also. I believe Feline Indolent Ulcer (Eosinophilic Ulcer, Rodent Ulcer) is a type of autoimmune disease, as is Feline Eosinophilic Granuloma.

Here's a link which discusses Feline eosinophilic granuloma complex (EGC)

http://www.vet.uga.edu/vpp/clerk/Starnes/index.php


Please give Sophie a smooch on the top of her pretty little head. She's in my prayers!

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Here's a link which discusses Feline eosinophilic granuloma complex (EGC)

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Thankfully the two Sophie had have been tiny compaired to those ones in the pictures. Poor cats

Two of my main concerns were..

1. Are they painful, which he said their not unless they get too big and it causes her problems eating, but Sophies have been under her chin.

2. Can they turn cancerous, which he said only in very rare cases and he hasn't seen any at his surgery.

It wasn't a bump this time, just like a tiny rash?, but it was shrinking before i took her to the vet, now after her shot it looked even smaller today