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Best Shampoo for Red-Point Himmy

post #1 of 7
3/11/11 at 11:40am
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I have my beautiful red-point Himmy ("Chief Red Cloud) and I've been using "Perfect Coat - White Pearl" shampoo & Conditioner. (Low suds).

He whitens up, but quickly his leg hair and other areas become a bit (a lot) "stringy" looking, as if he hasn't been groomed every day. (He is groomed every day).

Does anyone have a preference of a shampoo that will keep him white and also fluffy?

Those leg hairs - I was thinking of turning them into dreads it's so bad! lol (jk).

Anyways, I'd appreciate any suggestions on a shampoo or shampoo/conditioner that would give him his old pro look.

(I adopted him from the kill shelter - the old owners were breeding him, they wanted him back, but they'd let him outside which is how he lost his eye. They said it was an accident, they showed me his pedigree papers, so I heartbreakingly gave him back, but they'd let him out twice more that they'd admitted, each time totally matted.

The last time he was let out was during our worst storm (as bad as it can be in California), but he was in the rain 3 days before he found his way into an elderly lady's garage. The owners called me telling me he was out again. (That was part of the agreement of me giving Chief Red Cloud back was they keep in touch with me about how he's doing).

I immediately checked all shelters, put multiples ads with 4 pictures each on Craigslist every single day and the elderly lady saw my add, he was still microchipped under my name, she took him to a shelter an hour away (where they live about 1 mile from), they called me, I dashed up there to bring him home.

I called the owners and said (in short - said a lot of other things, too), but in the end, I told them "He's home now."

Again, totally matted, eye infection I got better was back in full force and the sides of the mouth not being cleaned every day, geez, he probably couldn't even yawn.

ANYways, that's Chief Red-Cloud's story and was off-topic - I apologize for that.

Any suggestions on prime shampoos and/or conditioners for Chief Red Cloud would be very, very appreciated! :-D




(A face only a mother could love . . . and she does!) hee



Thanks so much!!!
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post #2 of 7
3/15/11 at 1:25pm
It sounds like the poor little guy needs to be degreased first. You can use dishwashing liquid (Dawn, Ivory, etc) or goop (yes, the handwashing tub) as a first shampoo, and then you can use the regular shampoo on him. Cats "with red" do seem to have a more greasy coat than some other colors.

Do you use the blowdryer on him when you're done with his bath?
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post #3 of 7
3/15/11 at 1:32pm
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Thanks much!

Happen to have some blue Dawn in fact!

I dry him as best I can, let him sit in the sun for a bit and then use the low setting on the blow-dryer. He's used to it (thank GOD!!!) lol

Wow, I wonder why red-points are greasier? That's interesting.

When he's first bathed, he's very puffy and clean for about 2.5 weeks. Maybe I should bathe him 2x/month?

Thank you SO much for responding. Wasn't sure I'd get one. Thanks for coming through! I (and Chief Red Cloud) appreciate it so much!

Warmly,

Julie O'

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Originally Posted by LynsGems View Post
It sounds like the poor little guy needs to be degreased first. You can use dishwashing liquid (Dawn, Ivory, etc) or goop (yes, the handwashing tub) as a first shampoo, and then you can use the regular shampoo on him. Cats "with red" do seem to have a more greasy coat than some other colors.

Do you use the blowdryer on him when you're done with his bath?
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post #4 of 7
3/15/11 at 2:20pm
Hi Julie,

One important thing to remember is when you're done bathing him, rinse, rinse, rinse and rinse again, and then when you think you're done rinse one more time. Any shampoo that might be left in the coat will make him look greasy.

It might also be best to dry him completely when his bath is done. When you use the blow dryer, use it on a high blow setting (low to medium heat) and blow his coat backwards. This will also give him more volume.

You can also use a volumizing shampoo (Pantene has good shampoos) that will also help his "fluffy" full coat.

I'm sure you'll find the best process for your boy to keep his coat full and clean and looking handsome!
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post #5 of 7
3/15/11 at 3:18pm
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Ahhh, blowing fur backwards, superb!!

Yeah I'll take your advice for sure, thanks so much! I do rinse-rinse-rinse, even holding the water thingy against the fur going over and over. (I still think there's some left - I will just do it for a looooooooooooooooooooong time next time (longer than I already do).

But for whitening (because he's soooooo beautiful with the orange against the white, is there a really good one out there that you know of?

One more thing (sooooorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy), and only if you have the time.

Do your persians get wet-goo-goo on the sides of their mouths? I know about the eye issues for a flat faced and I take care of that, but the mouth corners - it's like saliva and food bits. I clean his mouth corners multiple times a day, but I'm afraid it's become minorly irritated from my doing that (I just started using a different kind of gauze that has absolutely no roughness to it).

If you happen to know of ANYthing to keep these areas clean for a longer period of time, I'd appreciate it.

If you don't have the time, I totally understand.

Warmly,

Julie O'
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post #6 of 7
3/16/11 at 11:55am
Hi Julie,

If you want to make sure all of the shampoo residue is removed from the hair, you can use a vinegar rinse. Put about 1/4 cup (or less) in a quart of water and pour it over the coat. Then rinse again with plain water.

There are several different whitening shampoos that you can use. The shampoos that I use are not carried in "standard" pet stores (PetSmart, PetCo, etc). If you can find a specialty store they might carry them or you can order online. A couple of brands you can look for are All Systems and BioGroom. You might also be able to find these if you can attend a local cat show .

I have not noticed that my cats get that goo in the corners of their mouths. It does sound like you do need to clean that, but I'm wondering if there might be a problem with his teeth that cause this issue or if it is the food. What are you feeding him? Another thing you might be able to use are the cotton pads that can be used to remove eye make-up. They might be a little more gentle than gauze. Maybe put a little antibiotic ointment or cream to keep infection away if those areas are getting raw to help protect the skin.

Please feel free to ask questions! If you don't ask, you can't learn. It may take time for me to respond, but I am more than happy to help if I can.
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post #7 of 7
3/16/11 at 10:32pm
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Ahhh, vinegar, hmm, all I have is balsamic, lol. I'll have to get some.

Yeah, he needs mouth cleaning multiple times daily. He drools a bit. but his teeth and gums look fine (every time he yawns that big yawn, I check it out.

I also found some smoother gauze that seems to help in one way, and not work as well to clean his eyes and corners of his mouth... but they are smoother so I'll stick with those. Thanks!

Are your cats extreme flat face? I'm just wondering if this has something to do with it...

Wish I could write more, but I have to go to bed - It was my once-a-month stock-up on everything day.

I have tons of other e-mails (surprisingly), but I'm exhausted and sore from carrying a car filled to the ceiling with stuff, ugh!

Thank you again for your help, I appreciate it a lot!

Julie O'

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Originally Posted by LynsGems View Post
Hi Julie,

If you want to make sure all of the shampoo residue is removed from the hair, you can use a vinegar rinse. Put about 1/4 cup (or less) in a quart of water and pour it over the coat. Then rinse again with plain water.

There are several different whitening shampoos that you can use. The shampoos that I use are not carried in "standard" pet stores (PetSmart, PetCo, etc). If you can find a specialty store they might carry them or you can order online. A couple of brands you can look for are All Systems and BioGroom. You might also be able to find these if you can attend a local cat show .

I have not noticed that my cats get that goo in the corners of their mouths. It does sound like you do need to clean that, but I'm wondering if there might be a problem with his teeth that cause this issue or if it is the food. What are you feeding him? Another thing you might be able to use are the cotton pads that can be used to remove eye make-up. They might be a little more gentle than gauze. Maybe put a little antibiotic ointment or cream to keep infection away if those areas are getting raw to help protect the skin.

Please feel free to ask questions! If you don't ask, you can't learn. It may take time for me to respond, but I am more than happy to help if I can.
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