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post #1 of 260
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As per Zoey's Mum's suggestion, here's the new thread! Haha. The old thread is here.

A (not so) brief summary of the past few weeks:

I took Mackerel to MBF Vet on the 29th of January and was told that she had FeLV or FIV+. They took a blood test and told me I'd have the results on Monday. On Monday I couldn't speak to a vet, despite calling six or seven times to get the test results. Finally I hassled the receptionist into telling me that she had Acute Renal Failure- she told me a vet would call me soon. No vet called. I spoke to the emergency vet on the other side of town who told me to get Mackers to a vet in the morning and to get lots of fluid into her overnight. I stayed up all night giving her water by syringe, and when I got her to Hanly Vet the next morning where a friend of mine worked she wasn't dehydrated and they said that they would keep her in the vet hospital on IV fluids and see how she went.

Mackerel was in the vet hospital from the 1st of Feb until the 14th. She was taken off the IV after a few days because she'd started retaining water, and was very very bloated and uncomfortable whenever I went to see her. On the 12th I was told that the adema was much better and that she'd be coming home within the week. On the 14th the vet called and said that her anaemia had gotten very bad very quickly (down from 24 on the Friday to 8 on the Monday) and that I should bring her home to spend some time with her. I was told that she'd suffer fitting and maybe slip into a coma or die of heart failure, and that the kindest thing would be to PTS over the next few days. Apparently there was debate amongst the vets about whether they should send her home at all- some of them thought it would be cruel to prolong things. When I got her home she was obviously very weak and struggling to move or breath, she wasn't eating or drinking at all. I made an appointment with a vet to come to my house on the 15th to PTS.

On the morning of the 15th she started eating! I cancelled the appointment and we decided to wait and see how she went. When she was still with us on the Friday I took her back to the vet. We did a blood test, and her anemia was really improved- up to 17.4. She'd also picked up a cough, but over the next few days with antibiotics that was treated and she's mostly breathing easy now.

At the moment she has a very healthy appetite and seems to be putting on weight. I'm feeding kitten food and some extra raw meat as well as tuna and a little bit of milk for treats. She's drinking quite a lot and weeing, and I've noticed over the past few days that she might be retaining water around her belly, though, and there's something strange just below the skin on her belly that feels like a very hard almost... sharp little lump. I have no idea what it is, but I'm going to see if my friend K (the vet nurse) can come over and take a look.

She's on medication for appetite stimulant and a pill to help her kidney function improve, as well as an antibiotic and a paste that's a supplement for extra calories and vitamins and minerals.

And all we can do now is wait to see whether her anemia improves any more, and whether her kidney function gets to a level where she can function well on her own.

We still don't know what caused this whole thing in the first place.

And here's a gratuitous Mack shot:

post #2 of 260
Love the shot of Mack at the end. Her eyes look so alive! So glad to hear mostly positive updates. That first vet sounds like a nightmare! I hope the lump is not serious! Please keep us updated. I hope she's 100% very soon.
post #3 of 260
I hope the lump is nothing serious.
post #4 of 260
What a beautiful girl. You can tell she's a fighter. It shows in those gorgeous eyes of hers. Still rooting for you, sweet baby girl!
post #5 of 260
Thread Starter 
I have no idea what the lump is. Feels... almost like a microchip, if there were two or three of them implanted quite low on her tummy. Definitely feels artificial. It's very weird.
post #6 of 260
What a beauty and the fight for her health is so apparent in those gorgeous eyes!!
post #7 of 260
Awww Mack! You WILL pull through it little girl! I just know in my heart
post #8 of 260
Mackerel

post #9 of 260
I love her eyes!

Could the lump be her spay scar?
post #10 of 260
Thread Starter 
Possibly. I've never felt it before, though. Not before yesterday. -sigh-

She's not in pain, though, she has no reaction to my touching the lump at all.
post #11 of 260
Mackerel is beautiful. Massive vibes for that sweet girl.
post #12 of 260
Love your new siggy, sweetie, and the sentiment regarding 'your soul'. Makes me teary-eyed.
Maybe your just now able to feel Mack's spay scar because she's so thin? I would definitely have it checked, but try not to worry about it.
You are doing a fabulous job with your baby girl; I forget---how old is she?
Still sending those healing to sweet Mackerel!
post #13 of 260
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Aww, thanks Libby. I felt like that photo was just calling out to me to be used in a siggie, and ever since she got really sick I've just.. realized exactly how much she means to me. She's a part of me, and I don't know what I'd do without her.

I hadn't thought about that. Though really because of the water retention in her belly it's not really possible that she's getting smaller. I suppose with any change of weight things are going to... feel different. It's a very good idea that that's why I might not have felt it before if it was a spay scar. Thanks. Do you think I should get it checked out sooner than my Friday appointment? Apart from that she seems fine, and like I said it doesn't seem to be causing her any discomfort or anything.
post #14 of 260
I wouldn't wait on the water retention. It can put pressure on the heart or lungs. If it hasn't dispersed by tomorrow, get her in.

Has the vet ever mentioned FIP to you? I pray it's not, but it came into my mind when you mentioned the fluid around her abdomen.

post #15 of 260
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The vet took a look at the water retention on Friday and said that we shouldn't worry too much about it. I'll give them a call tomorrow and ask what they think, though. Maybe she just meant the level that was there on Friday or something. :-S

We did talk about FIP for a while- but they decided that it wasn't FIP because (wonderfully) she isn't sick enough for it to be FIP.
post #16 of 260
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Originally Posted by Jalindal View Post
The vet took a look at the water retention on Friday and said that we shouldn't worry too much about it. I'll give them a call tomorrow and ask what they think, though. Maybe she just meant the level that was there on Friday or something. :-S

We did talk about FIP for a while- but they decided that it wasn't FIP because (wonderfully) she isn't sick enough for it to be FIP.


Oh good, whew. Yes, calling the vet about the fluid retention is the best idea, they will know if she needs to be seen.
post #17 of 260
Thread Starter 
can they do anything about water retention if it is a problem? I was under the impression that it was not really something that can be fixed apart from with diuretics, which wouldn't be good for Mack's kidneys.
post #18 of 260
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can they do anything about water retention if it is a problem? I was under the impression that it was not really something that can be fixed apart from with diuretics, which wouldn't be good for Mack's kidneys.
I suppose they could draw it off with a needle aspiration type procedure, but I'm guessing. She had this problem while she was in the hospital too, didn't she? I don't remember what they did then, other than stop the sub q for a while, if anything?
post #19 of 260
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That's right- she got really bad when she was in the hospital and they just monitored it to make sure it didn't get to her lungs and gave her drugs to help her kidney function. I think they did give her some diuretics as well but the vet said they weren't comfortable doing much of that because of her kidneys.
post #20 of 260
Honey, my advice would be this: if it worries you, call the vet. You're wondering about the fluid retention and the little bumps you've found on her tummy. A phone call to the vet Monday may very well put your mind at ease and get you thru to Mack's appointment on Friday. Don't be afraid to ask your vet questions; this is your baby we're talking about, and you need to know that everything is ok or that she needs to be seen sooner. I know when one of mine is sick, every little thing seems ginormous. You know that calling the vet will make you feel better.

BTW, does Mack know how lucky she is to have you looking out for her?
post #21 of 260
Are you sure this is water retention, and not weight she is putting on? Or even a belly full with as much she is eating given she is so skinny?
How does it feel?
She is soooo skinny, and things might look out of proportion for a little while until she gets her weight back...
I am just throwing another possibility out there - because she is eating a lot, and she is skin and bones... It might be weight coming back or a belly full...
You are paying a looooot of attention to her, and I understand your fears... She is doing so well, it might not be as bad...
post #22 of 260
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Hey guys. I spoke to the vet, and it... well, it wasn't a reassuring phone call.

RE the lumps, they've said that she's too sick for us to do anything about those- there's no way we could operate right now so they've said basically, because she's not in pain because of them, we should ignore them.

As per the fluid retention... there's nothing they can do about it, except maybe something that might work which is injections that encourage her body to pass the fluid through urination. They don't know how well it would work or how often the injections might be needed. It could be weekly or biweekly, and the fluid in her belly brings the FIP diagnosis back to the forefront, because although her kidneys could also be causing this adema, it is textbook FIP when combined with all her other symptoms. The only thing is that she should be sicker if it's FIP... but I guess that could be asymptomatic.

I don't know what to do, guys. I've moved my appointment to Thursday, but I really just don't know what to do. I can't afford an ongoing treatment that intensive and I can't harass my friends and family to take three hours out of their days twice a week to drive us there and back.
post #23 of 260
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Originally Posted by Jalindal View Post
Hey guys. I spoke to the vet, and it... well, it wasn't a reassuring phone call.

RE the lumps, they've said that she's too sick for us to do anything about those- there's no way we could operate right now so they've said basically, because she's not in pain because of them, we should ignore them.

As per the fluid retention... there's nothing they can do about it, except maybe something that might work which is injections that encourage her body to pass the fluid through urination. They don't know how well it would work or how often the injections might be needed. It could be weekly or biweekly, and the fluid in her belly brings the FIP diagnosis back to the forefront, because although her kidneys could also be causing this adema, it is textbook FIP when combined with all her other symptoms. The only thing is that she should be sicker if it's FIP... but I guess that could be asymptomatic.

I don't know what to do, guys. I've moved my appointment to Thursday, but I really just don't know what to do. I can't afford an ongoing treatment that intensive and I can't harass my friends and family to take three hours out of their days twice a week to drive us there and back.
Ok, Deep breath....
Is she, on your eyes, in your perception, in your heart..... doing better?
Eating better? More energy? More disposition? Pooping, peeing?
The reason why I am saying this is: She has come a looooong way.... AND this was a phone call with the vet....
Don't lose hope because of a phone call honey.... Let the vet see her first before you draw any conclusions....
post #24 of 260
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Ok, Deep breath....
Is she, on your eyes, in your perception, in your heart..... doing better?
Eating better? More energy? More disposition? Pooping, peeing?
The reason why I am saying this is: She has come a looooong way.... AND this was a phone call with the vet....
Don't lose hope because of a phone call honey.... Let the vet see her first before you draw any conclusions....

I agree 100% with Carolina here. Deep Breaths. She is doing better...and I would think if she had had wet FIP (swollen tummy is wet form), then she would NOT have lived almost a month and now be doing BETTER, right?
post #25 of 260
Thread Starter 
OK, deep breaths, you're right. OK. Sorry. Just had a little freak out. But I've had a bit of a weep and I'm feeling calmer now. And breathing deeply. Thanks guys.
post #26 of 260
Carolina is right, just see what the vet says, when the vet actually see's her. Because she was doing so much better. Just see what the vet thinks at the appointment.
post #27 of 260
I've been following all the Mack threads avidly, and, having had a cat with FIP, I really think she would have a high, high fever if it were that. Honestly...in my experience, they DON'T get better with FIP. Just doesn't happen.

However...Interferon is used with GREAT results in FIP. Just FYI...
post #28 of 260
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I agree 100% with Carolina here. Deep Breaths. She is doing better...and I would think if she had had wet FIP (swollen tummy is wet form), then she would NOT have lived almost a month and now be doing BETTER, right?
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Originally Posted by kluchetta View Post
I've been following all the Mack threads avidly, and, having had a cat with FIP, I really think she would have a high, high fever if it were that. Honestly...in my experience, they DON'T get better with FIP. Just doesn't happen.

However...Interferon is used with GREAT results in FIP. Just FYI...
No, they don't get better permanently, but there is some up and down, with improvement then backsliding in FIP.(there is no way to diagnose FIP on a live cat)

I am not trying to be gloom and doom here and I am praying with all my might that this is not FIP, and this is just a blip in the road to recovery for Mackerel.

Mackerel

Jalindal
post #29 of 260
I'm wondering why surgery would be mentioned concerning the lumps when the vet hasn't seen them?
As the others have said, honey--deep breaths. You've been so upbeat about Mack's condition improving lately; don't let the little things get you down. It's possible that once you get the bigger health issues under control the smaller issues will resolve themselves.
post #30 of 260
I agree with the others. You are at the stage where you have to take the hardest advice of all:

Don't just DO something; STAND there!

Mackerel had a rough stretch, and it's going to take a while for everything to stabilize. Constant worrying is unlikely to improve her, and she might pick up on some of your stress. For now, just enjoy the gift of the days you're having with her that a week ago you never expected to have.
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