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Hobbes has been with us for just over 2 weeks now and he's had 2 hairball vomitting incidents - the 1st with food and the 2nd with a ton of clear fluid. The 2nd time was quite a lot. My vet's office suggested I give him some vaseline on his paw and he will lick it. The other option I've read is unsalted butter. When Hobbes came to us he was shedding a lot, which has decreased to a great extent now but he still sheds. Calvin is a medium hair cat and Hobbes grooms him. So I am trying to be cautious.
Can anyone share what they do as far as these hairball home remedies go? Also if I give them butter, how much should I give and how often?
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As maintenance I would say butter, but in a time of crisis like this, Vaseline works better IMHO. I suggest you give it a couple of hours from any meals or medication so the kitty can absorb the nutrients/meds. I am in the middle of a big hairball crisis - I am giving them 2ccs of Vaseline once every couple of days, straight in their mouths with a syringe - I don't even risk putting in their paws and having them not licking it. The dose is 1/2 to 1 tsp. 1 tsp is 2.5cc. If Hobbes is a kitten, give the lower dose.
 
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Originally Posted by Carolina

As maintenance I would say butter, but in a time of crisis like this, Vaseline works better IMHO. I suggest you give it a couple of hours from any meals or medication so the kitty can absorb the nutrients/meds. I am in the middle of a big hairball crisis - I am giving them 2ccs of Vaseline once every couple of days, straight in their mouths with a syringe - I don't even risk putting in their paws and having them not licking it. The dose is 1/2 to 1 tsp. 1 tsp is 2.5cc. If Hobbes is a kitten, give the lower dose.
Thanks so much Carolina. I hope your kitty health issues are solved soon. I was just reading your thread and it seems you are dealing with three of your kitties with the problem. I am thinking of a regular regimen - maintainence I guess then. Both Calvin and Hobbes are about 7 months old and so I guess at acute times it will be the smaller of the doses mentioned. for your kitties
 

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Originally Posted by Calvin&I

Thanks so much Carolina. I hope your kitty health issues are solved soon. I was just reading your thread and it seems you are dealing with three of your kitties with the problem. I am thinking of a regular regimen - maintainence I guess then. Both Calvin and Hobbes are about 7 months old and so I guess at acute times it will be the smaller of the doses mentioned. for your kitties
Yeah... What I decided to do for maintenance is give Vaseline, but once every 3 days on shedding season . For onow they will be getting every couple of days for a bit.
 

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Definitely put it directly in their mouths. My finger always gets chomped - it hurts on those sharp teeth (skin never gets broken), but if you put it on a paw, they just shake it off, and then you have vaseline (or blutter) flung around everywhere.
I should probably get a syringe LOL.

Both work to coat the insides AND bind the hair, which is how you get the hair out the back end when kitty's system doesn't do it naturally.

Butter doesn't interfere with the absorption of needed nutrients in food. Vaseline does. But butter is added fat - whereas the molecules in vaseline are too large to be absorbed by kitty. But use of vaseline does need to be timed, especially if you're going to use it a few days in a row, or every few days regularly as maintenance. As Carolina already pointed out, ideally you give it two hours before/after any meal.

The other thing you might consider - getting the boys enjoying being brushed. Most cats learn to LOVE it, though they're scared and/or skeptical at first.
But cats LOVE having their cheeks rubbed, and a baby brush or tooth brush plays right into that, and it's easy to "graduate" from there. The furminator works MIRACLES when it comes to removing hair that would otherwise be shedding. It's a special comb - feels a little bumpy on their bones, but once they love being brushed, they love this too, and it removes the undercoat, which is what sheds.


I've definitely seen it cheaper on here - I think we paid $19 plus shipping for it. Maybe search around, or wait (especially if they don't already love being brushed). http://www.amazon.com/FURminator-deS.../dp/B000PU31MY

The other thing you can do is grow cat grass. Outside, when kitties need help passing hair, they eat grass. Most LOVE grazing on it - or you can grow it, and cut it and just let them eat it like that. We grew it when we lived in a house, and always kept a crop going - they BONKED OUT for it, and we had to keep it in the garage or they'd figure out how to get at it.
 
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Thanks Carolina and Laurie!
As for hairball issues, none of my kitties are constipated now. I have seen hair in Calvin's poop when he had tummy troubles (what these kitties make us do!) and but Hobbes has vomitted hairball recently. Maybe I should give him some soon.
They are not too fond of brushing - there are times they will be ok but not at others. I do have a furminator on my wish list but it will have to wait a bit. I am using the zoom groom (I think that's what it is called) and they are better with it than Calvin's old brush.
The grass is a great idea - never knew that. Will check that out
 

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Thanks for the thread as I need advice on this too!! I am starting to have the same problem with Presley and only him. Vomiting just started over the weekend, and right after eating. Then he vomited up some liquid foam with hair strands in it. There has been no "hairball" in the vomit. This went on for two days and he has been fine today with no vomiting. I am not sure if it is a hairball or he was just feeling sick.

I did not know about the vaseline and will start him on that. Does that really help with keeping food down if you dispense the vaseline orally a couple of hours before feeding???

I too brush my cats ALOT and have a furminator. It just seems that no matter how long I furminate, more hair just keeps coming. There is no end to it
There is a ton of shedding going on right now with Spring approaching. That is why I was asking about bathing cats in the grooming forum recently. I want to get the loose hair out so they don't get hairballs!!!!!
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

As maintenance I would say butter, but in a time of crisis like this, Vaseline works better IMHO. I suggest you give it a couple of hours from any meals or medication so the kitty can absorb the nutrients/meds. I am in the middle of a big hairball crisis - I am giving them 2ccs of Vaseline once every couple of days, straight in their mouths with a syringe - I don't even risk putting in their paws and having them not licking it. The dose is 1/2 to 1 tsp. 1 tsp is 2.5cc. If Hobbes is a kitten, give the lower dose.
Will try this too. I will just measure out 1/2 tsp. and put it on my finger and then place it on the roof of Presley's mouth. YUK!!! It is reminding me of when my mother used to try to get us kids to eat cod liver oil as kids!!!!
She was nuts
. Are there any hairball remedies for cats you recommend, or just the vaseline??
 

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Originally Posted by LDG

The other thing you can do is grow cat grass. Outside, when kitties need help passing hair, they eat grass. Most LOVE grazing on it - or you can grow it, and cut it and just let them eat it like that. We grew it when we lived in a house, and always kept a crop going - they BONKED OUT for it, and we had to keep it in the garage or they'd figure out how to get at it.
I have always wanted to try this for my cats, the grass!!! Does that make them throw up? I know when my dogs go outside and eat grass, vomit is sure to come afterwards.
 

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Originally Posted by Feralvr

Will try this too. I will just measure out 1/2 tsp. and put it on my finger and then place it on the roof of Presley's mouth. YUK!!! It is reminding me of when my mother used to try to get us kids to eat cod liver oil as kids!!!!
She was nuts
. Are there any hairball remedies for cats you recommend, or just the vaseline??
You know, my vet told me just give straight vaseline... Just make sure it is the 100% pure white petrolatum (no fragrances, nothing added)
 

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Originally Posted by Carolina

You know, my vet told me just give straight vaseline... Just make sure it is the 100% pure white petrolatum (no fragrances, nothing added)
Ok! Thanks. Alot cheaper than hairball remedies too. Does it really help with keeping food down and no vomiting if you dispense it about two hours before feeding??
 

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Originally Posted by Feralvr

Ok! Thanks. Alot cheaper than hairball remedies too. Does it really help with keeping food down and no vomiting if you dispense it about two hours before feeding??
It helps with absorbing the nutrients in the food. Vaseline coats the stomach/digestive tract, so no nutrients or meds will be absorbed if you feed the kitty right after it.
Because it moves the hair so well from the stomach, and intestine too), if the vomiting is related to hairball, yes, it will get rid of it.

Here at home, the vomiting completely stopped for both Gracie and Bugsy. For Lucky it took way more than Vaseline, but then she had a full on blockage - she had to have "the service" done by the vet/maintenance done at home.
I like the fact that vaseline is not absorbed at all, is cheap and has not taste - it seems to work really well on the top of it. So far it has been the best here, I am glad my vet recommended it.
 

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It doesn't help Lazlo not throw up - but with the massive hairball problem we just went through with him, giving it to him every 3-4 days has REALLY helped prevent the problem from becoming a problem again.

And no, grass doesn't make cats throw up like dogs - just don't let them go wild eating it. We grew it in several 12" pie plates. At the time there were five (then six) of them, and we'd let them graze a plate at a time, giving them one very few days.
It was hysterical watching them eat it.

The reason they vomit when they've got hairballs is when the hair accumulates in the stomach and doesn't pass... it gets "balled up," and blocks food passing from the stomach through the pylorus into the duodenum (the first part of the small intestine). So in some cats, they eat dry food, it expands with the digestive juices - the hairball is blocking the pylorus, and is taking up room in the stomach - and then there just isn't room for the food, so it comes right back up, undigested.

In other cats, the stomach gets to mixing, and so the hairball is moving around - so SOME food passes along out of the stomach - and the hairball blocks the pylorus - so several hours after they eat, and they end up vomiting up digested food.

...or their tummy is trying to digest the hairball, and they vomit stomach bile, because their tummies are otherwise empty.

So the BEST thing to do is prevent them to begin with, because no hairball remedy is very good at getting an already formed hairball to pass.

Lazlo and Flowerbelle are our only kitties with hairball problems. The rest seem to pass it without any problem. Flowerbelle we've had on a hairball food for over a year. She does get her wet food - but she's never been much of an eater, especially wet food, so basically now that we don't free feed, whenever she asks for food, I put down a hand full of her hairball kibbles for her.

Lazlo, on the other hand, needs either wet food or prescription dry food because of his problem with crystals. So I'm doing the vaseline as preventative-maintenance for him.

But as to hairball remedies... look at the ingredients. Almost all of them have petroleum jelly... some also have mineral oil. Others use soy oil or other oils - but the rest is generally some kind of flavoring agent. We have coconut oil (organic, cold press, first press, from fresh coconuts, not dried coconuts - you can buy Nutiva from Walmart) for Chumley's allergies - but Shelly loves it, so we let him eat a teaspoon every couple of days. (Coconut oil is about 50% lauric acid, which is the main ingredient in the saturated fat in breat milk. It has all kinds of anti-viral, anti-fungal and antiviral properties. Anyway... ) Have no idea if it's helping prevent hairballs or not, but his coat is looking gorgeous.
 

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I dont mean to highjack the thread but anyone use Petromalt? 4 days before Aki died the vet told me to give him a long 3-5 inch strip of it encase it was hairballs. It was enough to clean him out the next day and make stools mushy so I stopped there. Guess I'm asking if it can cause stomach duress to such a point a cat stops eating for days because of it? Really need move on and stop seconding guess myself someday.
 

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Originally Posted by LDG

And no, grass doesn't make cats throw up like dogs - just don't let them go wild eating it. We grew it in several 12" pie plates. At the time there were five (then six) of them, and we'd let them graze a plate at a time, giving them one very few days.
It was hysterical watching them eat it.
NOTE TO SELF!!! Buy and grow kitty grass



Originally Posted by LDG

But as to hairball remedies... look at the ingredients. Almost all of them have petroleum jelly... some also have mineral oil. Others use soy oil or other oils - but the rest is generally some kind of flavoring agent. We have coconut oil (organic, cold press, first press, from fresh coconuts, not dried coconuts - you can buy Nutiva from Walmart) for Chumley's allergies - but Shelly loves it, so we let him eat a teaspoon every couple of days. (Coconut oil is about 50% lauric acid, which is the main ingredient in the saturated fat in breat milk. It has all kinds of anti-viral, anti-fungal and antiviral properties. Anyway... ) Have no idea if it's helping prevent hairballs or not, but his coat is looking gorgeous.
Another note to self!!!!!! Walmart - Nutiva coconut oil. I bet it does help with hairball problems too plus all the other healthy properties. My SIL leaves out a tiny (about one tablespoon) of olive oil on the floor for her cats to lick up if they want it. I wonder if anyone knows about Olive Oil??? She said her vet recommended that.
 

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All kitty grass has done for my kitties is cause them to throw up. I feed my kitties plain canned pumpkin to help keep all things moving along, hairballs and poop. It's worked like a charm for several years!
 

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Originally Posted by stephanietx

All kitty grass has done for my kitties is cause them to throw up. I feed my kitties plain canned pumpkin to help keep all things moving along, hairballs and poop. It's worked like a charm for several years!
We tried pumpkin, but they won't eat it - even small amounts hidden in food.
 

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Originally Posted by madara

I dont mean to highjack the thread but anyone use Petromalt? 4 days before Aki died the vet told me to give him a long 3-5 inch strip of it encase it was hairballs. It was enough to clean him out the next day and make stools mushy so I stopped there. Guess I'm asking if it can cause stomach duress to such a point a cat stops eating for days because of it? Really need move on and stop seconding guess myself someday.
I don't think talking about other hairball stuff is hijacking the thread. Petromalt is a really standard hairball remedy. It's about 50/50 petrolatum and malt syrup (a little less of each and a few % other minor things). It's roughly the same as using vaseline IMO. I don't think the petromalt caused the duress - the hairball probably did.
Maybe kitty was allergic to something in it? I'm not sure what else is in it.

Petromalt was the first hairball remedy we ever purchased. Our cats all hated it. The tube went bad... by the time we needed something again, we just used vaseline.
 
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Thanks everyone for the information!
I was talking to Hobbes's vet the other day and mentioned the hairball issues to him. He suggested I try some fiber. He said just plain metamucil (not orange flavored). Anyone tried this and had any success?
 

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We used that with Callie, but she had CRF. I'd try adding plain canned pumpkin before going to Metamucil. It's much cheaper and more natural. You can also use slippery elm bark, but I'll have to find the dose for that.
 
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