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post #1 of 13
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So I thought things were going ok with the 2 kitties and then this happens. I spent most of the night at Hobbes's room and then left to sleep on my bed at 5 in the morning and then gave them breakfast at 6:30. Around 7, I opened the door to Hobbes's room and there was no fighting. I went to make coffee and then to make the bed where I slept. For a few minutes Calvin and Hobbes were alone in the room. When I moved the comforter, I saw what looked like 2 hairballs (Hobbes had barfed up hairball once earlier and that was mised with some wet food). and the comforter around it was SOAKED. a lot of spaces were soaked. one spot went throught the comforter, through the 2 sheets to the mattress. Now, this being clear I assumed it's pee. Then I put the comforter on the floor and went to tell DH who was getting ready for work. He comes to see and I think I see a little more pee, Calvin spelling it and tracking paw steps on the comforter. I lift him and his butt is soaked. So my theory is Hobbes peed and then Calvin did that too?
They kind of looked at me guiltily and I put Calvin out of the room. The thing is I need to go out, have an appointment and then have to get an enzyme cleaner. I will have to leave the mattress in Hobbes's mercy, when I do that.
I will call the vet. Will appreciate any ideas or advice. Things were going well - saw some licking each other yesterday, touching nose, all four of us had some serious play time and then this happen.

So I googled and it seems that hairball can me eliminated with clear liquid. The liquid did not smell like anything really but it was a lot of it. Can that be it?
But still Calvin did pee on it . I thought cats peed on pee - so I am confused in Hobbes's was pee or vomit.
post #2 of 13
Is the comforter a down comforter? Some cats will pee on a down comforter because of the scent of birds which of course we can't smell but they can.
post #3 of 13
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It's not a down comforter. We do have a down comforter in another room and Calvin is constantly around it, not Hobbes, and never did this happen.
I am thinking of getting a uv light since I am not sure about the pee vs vomit issue. My sense of smell sucks and to be honest and I am not too sure what cat pee smells like. But I hear it's horribly and strong. Where Calvin walked had a stronger smell than the vase area with the hairball.
post #4 of 13
Are you sure it is pee????? My cats will paw/scratch over spots where someone has vomited or anything that might smell in the carpeting. I have down comforters and never have had a problem with them, interesting about the bird feather smell to cats.

I would get the black light from Petsmart, that is the only place I have seen one by Stink Free. Stink Free is also excellent for an enzyme cleaner. You might want to pick that up as well. But, I am not sure if it is really pee or vomit. I have found wet vomit spots especially in the morning if someone has an empty hungry stomach and just drank alot of water before I could get to them to feed.
post #5 of 13
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Are you sure it is pee????? My cats will paw/scratch over spots where someone has vomited or anything that might smell in the carpeting. I have down comforters and never have had a problem with them, interesting about the bird feather smell to cats.

I would get the black light from Petsmart, that is the only place I have seen one by Stink Free. Stink Free is also excellent for an enzyme cleaner. You might want to pick that up as well. But, I am not sure if it is really pee or vomit. I have found wet vomit spots especially in the morning if someone has an empty hungry stomach and just drank alot of water before I could get to them to feed.
I just made my shopping list with black light, stink free (since nok out will take time to arrive) and a zoom groom for more grooming.
The vet's office did not think that 2 hairball episodes in a week is cause to be too alarmed and want me to try vaseline. I'd try unsalted butter first.
I know calvin's was pee but not sure about the initial wet comforter with the hairball. So i thought of getting the black light.
I have not seen calvin pay extra attention to the down comforter but he goes crazy if we leave down jackets and goes on digging. Maybe the comforters are not real down as they said they were
post #6 of 13
WOW seriously, digging and going crazy for down filled items would make me put them away too!! I had no idea about down filled comforters, coats, blankets etc. and the possibility of a cat wanting to pee on them. YIKES!!! I have a down blanket on my couch (but not have had a problem yet). Cat peeing issues are my biggest fear with cats, and I have had my troubles with them over the years. But I was always able to get it resolved one way or another. Yep, get that light. It has to be very, very dark and no light in the room when you use it. The urine will be a VERY bright yellow/green. I think if the color glows purple, it is vomit.
post #7 of 13
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Yeah - he digs and also tries to take feathers out through the seams. So we promptly put our jackets away.

It's funny how they kitties are not interacting much with each other today. Hobbes went to the 2nd floor bedroom and hiding under the bed. Calvin and I went to check on him and Calvin went under the bed and I think nuzzled him and then came out and came downstairs with me. I do not know if the peeing incident had anything to do with changed dynamics. Hobbes also went and peed in Calvin's litter box yesterday and did not cover it up. I dont know if all these mean anything and has any bearing on the pee incident.
post #8 of 13
One other thing is they are kittens - and sometimes they get so involved with play, etc., they forget to leave enough time to get to the box.

And, some cats simply do not cover...sometimes it's a sign of dominance (the dominant cat won't cover) and sometimes they just simply don't care to...don't worry too much about it. I have one who doesn't cover, and the other one covers both hers and his!

I know it's hard (I speak from experience) but try not to show any stress or anger re the pee/vomit situation. Cats are extraordinarily sensitive to human emotions, and your understandable stress or anger will make them feel they've done something bad...they may try not to pee at all or will try to hide where they are peeing.

If they're both using the boxes, don't get too hyper yet. It could be a one-off accident.

Welcome to the joys of parenthood!
post #9 of 13
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One other thing is they are kittens - and sometimes they get so involved with play, etc., they forget to leave enough time to get to the box.

And, some cats simply do not cover...sometimes it's a sign of dominance (the dominant cat won't cover) and sometimes they just simply don't care to...don't worry too much about it. I have one who doesn't cover, and the other one covers both hers and his!

I know it's hard (I speak from experience) but try not to show any stress or anger re the pee/vomit situation. Cats are extraordinarily sensitive to human emotions, and your understandable stress or anger will make them feel they've done something bad...they may try not to pee at all or will try to hide where they are peeing.

If they're both using the boxes, don't get too hyper yet. It could be a one-off accident.

Welcome to the joys of parenthood!
I am seriously hoping it's a one time thing.

I have to admit, I was a little stressed when this happened. I did not scold them but called DH to come and see and I got Calvin out of the room. I hope I have not scarred them.

They were not playing when this happened - but rather chilled and the litter box was right beside. I am getting more convinced that it was clear vomit and Calvin peed on it.

The reason why the "not covering pee" stood out was because Calvin sometimes does not cover pee but Hobbes does and we usually joke that he'll dig his way to China since he digs so diligently to cover. Yesterday when he had a "bad" poop he did notcover it and then he did not cover when he peed in Calvin's box.

Right now Hobbes is hiding under the bed on the 2nd floor but I need to get him out because I need to go out. Since his door room has remained open since yesterday, he's gone to the 2nd floor a couple of times and hid under the bed.
post #10 of 13
I did want to mention that cats typically don't feel shame or get a guilty look after a peeing incident. They just go on their merry way and forget about it. As for not covering pee/poop, I have had some cats not cover and some cover like they are going to China. And Presley will go in and actually assist his brother/sister in covering their business. Very funny, I think. Sometimes, not covering can mean dominance. But when Pipsqueak has a bout of IBD, he won't cover it because I think he thinks it is way too messy to deal with and he runs out of the box quickly!!!
post #11 of 13
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They kind of looked at me guiltily and I put Calvin out of the room.
When kitties pee or poop outside the box, they don't know they did anything wrong (unless it's been happening for a while and people have been yelling at them). Even then - they don't feel guilt or shame about it. That is entirely people projecting a human emotion onto them.

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So I googled and it seems that hairball can me eliminated with clear liquid. The liquid did not smell like anything really but it was a lot of it. Can that be it?
If it were pee, you would totally smell it. And yes, when a cat has hairballs, they can vomit clear liquid (stomach acids).

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Yep, get that light. It has to be very, very dark and no light in the room when you use it. The urine will be a VERY bright yellow/green. I think if the color glows purple, it is vomit.
In my experience, it glows an orange blob. I guess sometimes it looks kind of yellow... but I've never seen green.

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I have to admit, I was a little stressed when this happened.
Yes, we all stress (at first) when stuff like this happens. Normal reaction. But like when babies have accidents, you get used to it and figure out how to just deal with it. Hopefully it was just a one-time thing, but again, like with kids, it's not abnormal to have accidents sometimes.

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I am getting more convinced that it was clear vomit and Calvin peed on it.
He might have smelled "Hobbes" and so just did his "I'm alpha cat" pee on it to cover the scent - even though it wasn't pee.

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The reason why the "not covering pee" stood out was because Calvin sometimes does not cover pee but Hobbes does and we usually joke that he'll dig his way to China since he digs so diligently to cover. Yesterday when he had a "bad" poop he did notcover it and then he did not cover when he peed in Calvin's box.
I don't get too involved in the "cover" "not cover" thing. Sometimes our cats cover, sometimes they don't. Whenever Shelly poops, he flies out of the box like a bat out of hell and does what we call "the victory lap." A lot of kitties do this. Why they sometimes cover and sometimes don't - I have no idea. But as our cats don't have their own boxes, I have no way to read anything into it - and I'm not sure there is anything to it.

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I did want to mention that cats typically don't feel shame or get a guilty look after a peeing incident. They just go on their merry way and forget about it.
Exactly. They don't know they've done something wrong. In fact, usually peeing outside the box is a medical problem, so if they're looking at you, it's because they don't feel good and they're trying to tell you.

the enzyme cleaner does the trick!

When Spooky was peeing outside of the box, our bed was her favorite place. You do have to soak the affected area of the mattress - and I mean SOAK. If the enzyme cleaner doesn't get to where the pee was, the problem continues. Let it sit for 15 minutes, blot up the excess, then put a folded towel down over it, and make the bed. We changed the towel every day - and put enzyme cleaner on IT, and added enzyme cleaner to the laundry.

We also always did the mattress area at least twice - waiting until it was completely dry to do it again. In the meantime, you may want to cut down a box, and lay it over the top of the bed so the affected area is covered up - and maybe spray feliway on the box. It'll help ensure no more "accidents" or "marking" issues occur while you wait for the enzyme cleaner to dry.



And.... I know you said you thought things were starting to go well and "now this..." - but things are going well between them, and the "now this" is definitely a bummer for you - but nothing that has to do with their relationship, and definitely not a step back as far as THEM and how they interact are concerned.
post #12 of 13
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Thanks so so much. It turned out to be a rather strange day. My first concern and what stressed me out when I saw what I thought was pee was that Hobbes was sick. He does have chronic issues and on TCS I'd read about peeing outside being a sign of illness. And so I put Calvin out to see what was going on.
Hobbes then went upstairs to our bedroom and decided to spend the day under the bed. He seemed a little "down" and would not come out. Calvin went under the bed, licked him a little and then came outl. He did it a couple of times. Since Hobbes had diarrhea yesterday (and has not pooped since), I had an extra litter box and I set that up with his food and water in our bedroom since I had to go out and shut him in the room. When I returned he was basically right there and had not eaten or used the little box. Then I basically got him out and he was not happy with me. I served dinner and they both ate well. So am happy with that and Hobbes is his spunky self now. Calvin is licking his head quite a bit and they are wrestling - sometimes with ridged backs and progressively flattening ears but then they let go and do their own thing. The only thing is when Hobbes is in the litter box to pee, Calvin goes in too and then after he finishes peeing, Calvin licks him in the general area of between his legs. Grosses me out but as long as they are happy and having a good time, that's all that I want!
Makes sense they don't feel guilty since to them this is probably their nature, what they do. I would perhaps explain their expression was more sedate, not playful.
I got the cleaner and the black light and will do some detective work tonight.
post #13 of 13
Well from your description, sounds like they're getting along great! Calvin sounds like he's really getting into the "big brother" role.

there's no other pee, and it was a one time thing!

And glad Hobbes seems just fine!
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