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post #1 of 95
2/17/11 at 3:33pm
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DOES NOTTTTT mean you can forget about manners and be blatantly rude to a stranger.

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I have alot of visible tattoos. and I tend to forget that to the general public I am "heavily" tattooed because most of the people I am around on the regular (excluding coworkers) are wayyy more tattooed than I. So I usually just brush it off if someone says something rude or makes a look..but last night it really bothered me.

i was sitting at the walgreens pharmacy, already mad because i waited over an hour for them to fix a mistake they made, and an elderly (i assumed about 85-89 y/o) man walked by my chair. stopped for a good 30 seconds to stare at my arms. and then slowwwly walked to the counter just shaking his head in pure disgust. i scoffed at him out loud, bc its just so ridiculous to me and went back to texting.
THEN! i heard the man say his birthdate and he was only 61!!!! i could NOT believe it.

i can understand a very old person thinking its "wrong" but a guy that grew up in the wild 60s/70s???? it all just made me so angry. i hate when elderly people think they can say or do whatever just because they are old. you were taught that staring isnt polite just like i was. you were taught if you dont have something nice to say dont say anything at all..just like i was. and you were taught to not talk to strangers just like i was.

so my question is..do you think anyone 55 and older can say and act like however just because they are considered a senior citizen? because i think its crap! manners are manners and everyone should have a lesson in them.
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post #2 of 95
2/17/11 at 3:43pm
I know what you mean, when I'm at work the only tattoo that I have that's visible is on my wrist and I get a lot of dirty looks from people when I go to hand them their change - mostly seniors.

I also have two tattoos on my feet/leg, one is a small Picasso drawing of a dachshund on my right food, the other is a piece of music that goes from the top of my foot, around my ankle and up a little bit. Both are very visible in the summer when I'm wearing skirts, dresses and flats. Both also have very special meaning to me (all of my tattoos do actually, lol) so I do find it rude when people stare excessively and give me dirty looks for it. I do realize that by getting tattoos I am going to get stared at a bit, but the dirty looks are what bothers me. Everyone chooses to express themselves differently and they have a right to - however, everyone also has the right to respect.
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post #3 of 95
2/17/11 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by RiffxRaff View Post
so my question is..do you think anyone 55 and older can say and act like however just because they are considered a senior citizen? because i think its crap! manners are manners and everyone should have a lesson in them.
Sorry the old man offended you. There are lots of people who are inconsiderate no matter how old they are.
Well, I've seen people in their 20's and 30's make fun of the elderly, shoving them aside because they're too slow, or not taking time out to assist them when they needed help. I thought we were becoming an uncivilized species but reading your post, there is hope for us after all.
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post #4 of 95
2/17/11 at 5:23pm
People of all ages are rude, not just the elderly.
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post #5 of 95
2/17/11 at 5:35pm
WoW I'm 54 so in 1 more year you consider me elderly shakes head..First time it has crossed my mind I'm getting elderly..
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post #6 of 95
2/17/11 at 5:46pm
The tattoo thing, I get it.... I have tattoos up both arms and sometimes I get the "Why would you do that to yourself" questions....but I just kill them with kindness..............
You should move to NYC, things like that don't matter to anyone here. Although you will find out how rude people can really be, and age has nothing to do with it
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post #7 of 95
2/17/11 at 5:58pm
I hate tattoos and I'll probably never understand why someone would want to pay good money to get mutilated. But I have never, and would never make rude comments to anyone who chooses to permanently scar their body. And yes, I'm over 60.

ETA: Excessive tattoos would also influence my hiring decision, especially if the applicant was looking for a professional position.
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post #8 of 95
2/17/11 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
I hate tattoos and I'll probably never understand why someone would want to pay good money to get mutilated. But I have never, and would never make rude comments to anyone who chooses to permanently scar their body. And yes, I'm over 60.

ETA: Excessive tattoos would also influence my hiring decision, especially if the applicant was looking for a professional position.
I guess there is a first time for anything, never say never....... It's a shame that you would discriminate against something that has nothing to do with intelligence, ethics, and talent.
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post #9 of 95
2/17/11 at 6:50pm
Also, some of them butt in line! What the heck?
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post #10 of 95
2/17/11 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by cheylink View Post
I guess there is a first time for anything, never say never....... It's a shame that you would discriminate against something that has nothing to do with intelligence, ethics, and talent.
But it does have to do with judgment and a professional appearance in a professional environment.
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post #11 of 95
2/17/11 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
But it does have to do with judgment and a professional appearance in a professional environment.
Yes, this is true, many people judge others by personal appearance.....
Professional appearance in a professional environment, well just about anyone can achieve this.
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post #12 of 95
2/17/11 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by yayi View Post
Sorry the old man offended you. There are lots of people who are inconsiderate no matter how old they are.
Well, I've seen people in their 20's and 30's make fun of the elderly, shoving them aside because they're too slow, or not taking time out to assist them when they needed help. I thought we were becoming an uncivilized species but reading your post, there is hope for us after all.
I don't see the hope for us at all... What I see is that the problem has been going on for decades longer than we thought, if even our elderly are acting like that.
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post #13 of 95
2/17/11 at 7:55pm
One of my closest friends has quite a few herself. So does her husband. He also nearly shaves his head and has a long goatee. Of course she gets more attention than he does.
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post #14 of 95
2/17/11 at 9:24pm
I think everyone should have manners... Just cos some people are elderly doesnt mean they should be rude... Im sorry for him staring at you, that sucks
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post #15 of 95
2/17/11 at 9:47pm
I've been in situations where I've been judged by elderly people- and I just smile at them, I guess it's obvious to me that they are going to judge young people, no matter what, unless they look like they belong in a 60s magazine I don't know if it's rudeness, or if it's just the fact that they feel like they are wiser and more knowledgeable, and they have the right to give advice, judge, and lay their opinions out on the table at all times, because of their age (but we all know that's not true, older doesn't necessarily mean wiser)
I also have a soft spot for the elderly, they make me want to just go up to them and give them a hug... So, I'm a bit biased, lol...
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post #16 of 95
2/17/11 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
I hate tattoos and I'll probably never understand why someone would want to pay good money to get mutilated. But I have never, and would never make rude comments to anyone who chooses to permanently scar their body. And yes, I'm over 60.
The more I learn about tattoos and piercing and body modification, the more I learn that all we can do is "live and let live"
But since this is a cat forum, I think this pic would be fun to share, a guy who calls him "stalking cat" undergone body modification...




Picture credit: www.digitalbusstop.com
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post #17 of 95
2/17/11 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
The more I learn about tattoos and piercing and body modification, the more I learn that all we can do is "live and let live"
But since this is a cat forum, I think this pic would be fun to share, a guy who calls him "stalking cat" undergone body modification...




Picture credit: www.digitalbusstop.com
Lol, I would never do that to myself!
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post #18 of 95
2/17/11 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
I hate tattoos and I'll probably never understand why someone would want to pay good money to get mutilated. But I have never, and would never make rude comments to anyone who chooses to permanently scar their body. And yes, I'm over 60.

ETA: Excessive tattoos would also influence my hiring decision, especially if the applicant was looking for a professional position.
my family had the same thoughts when i started to get tattooed..but i work at a bank. very upity and very strict. they didnt know i had tattoos until about 3 months after i started. i respect the rules of my company and of a professional atmosphere and i dressed appropriately. doesnt change the fact that i am very good at my job, very polite, and have respect for other people.
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post #19 of 95
2/17/11 at 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
The more I learn about tattoos and piercing and body modification, the more I learn that all we can do is "live and let live"
But since this is a cat forum, I think this pic would be fun to share, a guy who calls him "stalking cat" undergone body modification...




Picture credit: www.digitalbusstop.com
hahahaha now thats a bit much. but still..to each their own
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post #20 of 95
2/17/11 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by MoochNNoodles View Post
One of my closest friends has quite a few herself. So does her husband. He also nearly shaves his head and has a long goatee. Of course she gets more attention than he does.
i know the feeling! this is my boyfriend. 6'7" about 300lbs and some how I'M the one to stare at?! i dont get it haha


and you dont see his his fingers, neck, throat, chin, hands, whole other arm, chest, stomach, back, feet, calves, and thighs..which are completely covered.

Gardenandcats..no i dont think 55 is elderly, or even 65 for that matter (i guess thats due to super active grandparents), which is why i was SOOOO annoyed that this guy at 61 thought i was a complete freak.
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post #21 of 95
2/17/11 at 11:56pm
Well I'm 52, so I'm close to being "elderly". I also have tattoos. The last one I got when I was 50. When I see a person with tats I usually compliment them on the art. So the elderly don't have a monopoly on rudeness.
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post #22 of 95
2/17/11 at 11:59pm
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i definately dont believe they do. im not saying ALL older people. just the majority. thanks to my boyfriend my 77 year old grandma is thinking about getting one. HA that'll be the day!...it would be pretty cool though
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post #23 of 95
2/18/11 at 12:05am
Grandma ROCKS!!
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post #24 of 95
2/18/11 at 12:45am
I've been a victim of a "toxic elder". I don't have any tattoos. I also consider the word "elder" to be anyone older than me. It doesn't have anything to do with being "old". Sometimes people feel entitled to be mean because they feel they are "elder" and "wiser".

I used to groom at a large chain pet store with very strict rules for taking animals in to be groomed. I've been screamed at and threatened by some of my elders because they didn't understand the rules and didn't want to understand the rules because I'm such a young girl that I obviously had no idea what I was talking about. I started grooming at 16 and had WAY more experience than some of the 50+ year old people that I worked with. The "toxic elders" would listen to people who had little to no experience because they looked older and not me because I looked younger. It was extremely frustrating.
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post #25 of 95
2/18/11 at 2:13am
I have tattoos and I haven't ever had coments from older people apart from my parents, especially my mum who hates tattoos, my dh doesn't really like tattoos either but its my body and if I want one then I will have one.
I have been on the recieving end of an elderely person though, I had not long had Molly and I had a double pushchair s Brandon was only 17months old, a one in front of the other one so it was less bulky than a side by side one but still long, anyway I went into town one day and I got on the bus, there is a buggy area on the bus but as mine was a bit longer I took up nearly the whole buggy area, an old lady got on and she wanted to put her shopping trolley thing on wheels there but there wasn't really much room, she could have fitted it where her seat was but no, she just tutted loudly and then said to her friend "young girls today look at that monstrosity of a pushchair, why have such a huge thing? No manners at all taking up all that room" the whole bus heard her and I was so ashamed and upset by her comments, it wasn't until Molly cried that I heard her friend say "oooh theres a baby in there aswell, must be a twin pushchair", so the lady didn't realise it was a double, she just made ssumptions, honestly I could have cried, if it happened to me today I would say something back, after that I walked into town but why should I of really?? x
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post #26 of 95
2/18/11 at 2:17am
I don't mind tattoos but I do mind rudeness. For me and I think everyone, the idea of older goes up as you get older. I am 55 and now think people well into their 80s are elderly. If I'm lucky enough to make it to that age I don't know what I will consider elderly. I used to think about getting a small tattoo but I was always afraid of going to a place that didn't do all that was necessary for sterilization. When I was in my early 30s I almost got it done. I worked with a guy that did tattoos as a second job but I didn't go through with it. I seen some of his work and he did a good job.
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post #27 of 95
2/18/11 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
ETA: Excessive tattoos would also influence my hiring decision, especially if the applicant was looking for a professional position.
Though, to be fair, anyone with tattoos probably wouldn't want to work for a company that would turn down an otherwise exemplary employee for such a petty reason.
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post #28 of 95
2/18/11 at 5:38am
I am sorry this man offended you. I am older than he and I would never intentionally offend a person who has tattoos, even though I dislike them. I think you are a bit hasty to label the older generation as more offensive to others just because of the one experience of yours. In general, I myself find the younger generation more offensive. I tend to believe that the older a person is, the more likely he was taught manners from the old school.
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post #29 of 95
2/18/11 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by blueyedgirl5946 View Post
I am sorry this man offended you. I am older than he and I would never intentionally offend a person who has tattoos, even though I dislike them. I think you are a bit hasty to label the older generation as more offensive to others just because of the one experience of yours. In general, I myself find the younger generation more offensive. I tend to believe that the older a person is, the more likely he was taught manners from the old school.
this isnt the first time. this has been going on for about 5 years now. stopping at our dinner table to gawk and whisper. head shakes. ignorant under the breath remarks, and blatant arm grabbing and demanding WHY OH WHY i would do this to myself. and by getting visible tattoos i knew there would be attention that came alone, and some would be negative. but i would NEVER walk up to an older person and give them crap about how their hair is fixed or what shoes they have on, because (just like tattoos!) it is a personal preference.

all im saying is, rude is rude, no matter your age. the majority of us were taught general manners, so why does no one put them into practice anymore!?

and gopher that is a good point, and if you are into the tattoo industry at all then normally you would think that way...but we all need to work and we all cant tattoo haha.
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post #30 of 95
2/18/11 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by blueyedgirl5946 View Post
I am sorry this man offended you. I am older than he and I would never intentionally offend a person who has tattoos, even though I dislike them. I think you are a bit hasty to label the older generation as more offensive to others just because of the one experience of yours. In general, I myself find the younger generation more offensive. I tend to believe that the older a person is, the more likely he was taught manners from the old school.
This would be my thinking as well. I personally do not like tattoos but would not deliberately offend anyone who has them even though I'm "elderly" (64).

My daughter's boyfriend has many tattoos and she has one. I personally don't see the point but adopt the motto of "live and let live". If I were hiring and two folks each had the same qualifications for a professional type job, I would hire the one without the tattoos.
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