Kitty Mash made for kitties

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I gotten paranoid of the ethoxyquin, BHA/BHT, Propylene glyco used as preservatives in kitty kipples and decided to make mash for kitties based on what I have done for birdies.

This was how I made it. Perhaps you might think of doing the same too.

Tinkerbell Kitty Mash//Dommie at the beach Ramadhan 2010 //Villa walkabou


My kitties seemed to love it.



The top half of the freezer, including that Twist icetray is packed with Tinkerbell Mash batch 9 for Riamfada my Grey parrot.
Those frozen Wyman's mixed berries are for Riamfada by the way.

The bottom half of the freezer is packed with Kitty Mash. I barely have some space left for my icecream and human food. Isn't that pathetic?

Dommie enjoying his mash below

 
 
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I don't know where you live, but in the US, it's quite easy to find a kibble or canned food that does not contain BHA/BHT, ethoxyquin, or propylene glycol.

Cats have no dietary need for beans or grains, and soy in particular can be quite problematic for them. Ground beef does not contain sufficient taurine to keep cats healthy. While your mash could be a good treat, if fed as a regular diet it could cause some deficiencies. There is a lot of info available about making a balanced home-prepared diet for cats, if you look in the "raw feeding" sub-forum I'm sure you'll find a lot of useful advice.
 

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Making something like that is good for when kitten has had reactions to packaged food. My vet gave me a recipe that includes KMR milk replacement,cottage cheese,and baby rice cereal. It worked wonders on my sensitive siamese kitten. A little more complete too.
 
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Extracted from recent postings I did in Facebook

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 In a Nat Geo documentary on wild bears feasting on salmon, when there were loads of salmon, the bears got more particular and ate only the salmon skins and eggs discarding the flesh. And recently I saw in supermarket salmon skin with bits of flesh attached were being sold at half the price of salmon fillet. I love the salmon skin (I add to my porridge and noodles and COOKED) and found kitties love raw salmon skin too. Which got me adding it to their mash. Kittie mash by the way need not have raw salmon skin or mince meat added. Those were already cooked into the mash. 2nd last batch of mash had 200 gms of dried anchovies, 750 grams of pork mince in them. Last batch of mash had 200 grams of dried anchovies, 250 grams of pork mince, 750 gms of salmon skin cooked into it. On days when I too lazy to add more stuff, kitties happily eat the kittie mash anyway. Adding wet kittie food was a habit from the past that persisted on. From time to time, I add wheat grass and other greens to the mash. I spoil the kitties silly as I am trying to fatten them to the point I can slow cook and braise the kitties - once I can find a good recipe to slow cook kitties

The salmon/pork/wet kitty food are daily addition with regular kitty mash added to 200 to 300 grams daily. Deliberately fluctuated to torment kitties with nothing regular to be faced with feast and famine at my choosing. I also think periodic clearing of their digestion tracts good and healthy as if in wild, they never will have regular meals and I try to replicate that. I think enough photos of Sieben and Ivan for you all to judge their health and scream at SPCA to lock me up for cruelty to kitties

Documenting the additions that go into the total of 200 to 300 grams of mash for the 2 kitties, prepared every 4 days, hold into freezer with a baggie thawed again for the day.
100 grams of raw salmon bits and skin , 40++ grams of raw pork mince, 100 grams of wet kitty food combined with salmon and mince to 227 gms
Then 130 grams mash added and well mixed by kneading to 400 grams and divided into 4 baqggies, one used for the day and other 3 into freezer
typical baggie of regular kitty mash of 385 gms
4 baggies of 100 gm salmon/mince/wet kitty food/mash - which then be topped up with kitty mash to daily 200 to 300 grams fed to the horrid beasties




 
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extract from recent facebook

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Just shot Ivan as well. With Sieben. Ivan who was able to pluck birds flying 6 feet up. Now Ivan can barely jump up to that printer on top of chair. He used to wake me in morning by leaping from top of 8 feet high cupboard to land on bed just inches from my face. I got terrified what if he misjudge? I was ugly enough as it was without him making it worse. He would continue to do that leap until I got out of bed. Now he stick his cold cold nose to my nose or stick a claw up my nose. He could barely get up the bed and no way he could leap up that cupboard now.
 


 


 



Above will be the mash I been giving to them. I got lazier, & more intelligent, and decided to liquidised the sweet potatoes and carrots with the beans.

Except the animal protein component of the cooked mash that I last made 4 weeks ago was 

200 gms of dried anchovies or called ikan bilis locally
250++ gms of chicken gizzards chop up
250++ gms of chicken liver chop up
500 gms of mince meat
400++ gms of salmon skin and flesh, discarded from human grade sashimi preparation as they do not fit the esthetics.

The current mash that I just cooked a couple hours ago did not have chicken gizzard in it but 350 grams of chicken liver The other meaty portions remained the same, but 500++ gms of salmon skn and flesh.
Now cooling and to be packaged in the morning.


In additon to the mash, this is what I give to the kitties.

Extracted from my Facebook on Mar 14 2014



I was reading that chicken gizzards and liver got more taurine then minced pork. And read that kitties got recipe that have raw gizzard and liver . Then when I saw in supermarket that gizzard and liver about half the price of salmon bits and skin, I decided kitty should have that. I bought gizzard and liver and cut that to tiny pieces, filling 4 baggies of 100 grams and a fifth baggie of 70 grams that I decided to use as see fit. I bought 100 grams of wheat grass. Took 200 grams of salmon bits and skin and cut that into smaller pieces to make 4 baggies of (100 grams gizzard/liver and 50 grams salmon bits and skin) . Added 25 grams of wheat grass chopped into small pieces. and added 90 grams of wet kitty food. Each baggie of (100+50+25+90) or 265 grams will be the additions for each group of 4 days for kitty together with the kitty mash(that total 200-300 grams /day). One thing good for kitty is that they need not worry I help myself to the gizzard and liver the way I help myself to their salmon bits and skin (discards from the aesthetic making of human grade salmon sashimi) and found that to be better than what I bought for myself. That 4 baggies will be in the freezer with one thawed and used every 4 days.

This was done as I thought the kitties needed this to ommp up the kitty mash. I was delighted one day from morbid puerile curiosity giving the kitty just the kiitty mash to find they chomp that pure kitty mash all up.

So I decided each 265++ gm baggie of addition to kitty mash be good for 8 days instead of 4 days. I compensate by adding an egg each day to their mash & addition
 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

 
 
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I'm so sorry to hear your cat isn't doing well. Have you contacted a vet about his? The first thing to do is check with a vet, as this could be unrelated to nutrition. Even if it is nutrition-related, your vet needs to check the cat and see if any specific supplements may be needed ASAP.
 
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I'm so sorry to hear your cat isn't doing well. Have you contacted a vet about his? The first thing to do is check with a vet, as this could be unrelated to nutrition. Even if it is nutrition-related, your vet needs to check the cat and see if any specific supplements may be needed ASAP.
Thank you Anne for your heartfelt concern and worries on Ivan.  

I should have mentioned Ivan is now 20 years old and no longer the supreme athlete that he used to be.  In addition, I took poetic license to make Ivan seemed even worse.  While he can no longer leap up to top of that 8 feet cupboard in a jump, he could leap up to top of bed and the computer table which is higher than the printer.  Interestingly enough, 3 year old Abby Sieben leap up that 8 feet cupboard via an intermediate jump to chair and then to the top whereas Ivan used to do that straight from the floor.

The vets in the country I live in are not anything like that in USA and UK and more civilised world.

I and my wife watched Ivan and track all his munching and peeing and pooing.  Which seemed to be ok so far.  Ivan is more laid back nowadays.

I am no longer able to charge up mountain side with 30 kilo on my back as I used to do 30 years ago and my knees and ankles and other parts of body creaking and complaining away.

Perhaps at 64 years old, I got to take things easy , just like Ivan now
 

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I'm so sorry to hear your cat isn't doing well. Have you contacted a vet about his? The first thing to do is check with a vet, as this could be unrelated to nutrition. Even if it is nutrition-related, your vet needs to check the cat and see if any specific supplements may be needed ASAP.
[/quote. This guys cats are eating better than kitties in USA eating canned food
 
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After making disparaging remarks on poor Ivan  

Just shot Ivan as well. With Sieben. Ivan who was able to pluck birds flying 6 feet up. Now Ivan can barely jump up to that printer on top of chair. He used to wake me in morning by leaping from top of 8 feet high cupboard to land on bed just inches from my face. I got terrified what if he misjudge? I was ugly enough as it was without him making it worse. He would continue to do that leap until I got out of bed. Now he stick his cold cold nose to my nose or stick a claw up my nose. He could barely get up the bed and no way he could leap up that cupboard now.

Let us remember Ivan is 20 years old now, and I taking poetic license with my words too.

I just found some photos of Ivan taken in mid 2011 when to amuse himself, he loved to leap from the top of cupboard to the bed.  He did that often enough for my wife to shoot some photos.
He could leap right up to top of cupboard  from floor and 3 year old Abby Sieben need to make intermediate jump to chair prior to leaping to top of cupboard.


 
Then Ivan did that  less and less and no more in 2013 and 2014.  When I was 30 years old or so, I could move up the mountains and down the mountains very fast laughing at 25-30 kilo backpack.

Now you hear no end of excuses from me over the creaking of my knees and ankles and my moaning and wheezing away.
 
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