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Keeping kitty off the counter

post #1 of 13
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My female cat has developed a habit within the last year that she never did before, and that is getting up on the counter when she knows there's food up there. She'll gladly stick her nose in anything and eat it, or eat a hole through styrofoam, Saran wrap or foil too.

Personally, when I see her doing this, I just pick her up, say "no" in a firm voice and set her back onthe floor. The other people in the house are not that nice, though...they will scream, throw her down, hit her if they can catch her, the dog chases her and tries to bite her because he's been taught to chase her by them, and then I get screamed at.

My poor kitties stay cooped up in the garage all night and most of the day because they howl all night long and wake everyone up and everyone's at work all day. And since my female likes to whine and beg when people eat, she has to stay in the garage even longer until dinner is done. SO basically people in here are saying they want her in the garage all the time.

Is there anything I can do to deter these habits? I've tried saying "no" as mentioned, splashing her with a little water, making sure she'd fed and given lots of attention. Nothing works and I don't want her to get yelled at or hit. But I'd also like to be able to let her out sooner without fear of her being struck or thrown outside (she's an indoor-only cat and my mother's boyfriend often threatens to throw her outside if she misbehaves).
post #2 of 13
What a horrible situation, I am really sorry for you and the kitties.

Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do to retrain her - that requires the cooperation of the members of the household, and you obviously don't have that.

Do you know why your cats are howling? Are they spayed and neutered? How many of them are there?

Do you have your own room? Is there any reason your cat can't live in your room instead of the garage?

I don't know how old you are, but however old it is, I'd be working darn hard to save up so I could move out - and take my cats with me (which you may well be doing!). Sorry your mom is making such poor choices, that's just tough.

for you and your kitties.
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by RuneKeeper View Post
My female cat has developed a habit within the last year that she never did before, and that is getting up on the counter when she knows there's food up there. She'll gladly stick her nose in anything and eat it, or eat a hole through styrofoam, Saran wrap or foil too.
It's not the cat's fault. Retrain all the humans in the house. What you're expecting is the same as expecting a human not to eat food in the cabinets or fridge when they're hungry. She doesn't know she shouldn't have that food - you left it out for her.

If you want her to stay down more, and no - she'll never stay down completely now, don't leave rewards for her to find. Simple. Begging, again, is a problem people create and never the pet's fault.

I agree, though, it would probably be easier for both of you to leave this situation entirely if you can.
post #4 of 13
Sounds chaotic to me. Your cats should not be yelled at, hit (OMG!!!), or chased (bit!!!) by dogs (OMG!!!! again) no matter what they do. They are being cats and doing what is normal. The people are behaving very badly, and allowing the dog to do so. The people need retraining.

No cat should be subjected to this treatment. It is animal abuse. No less.

You and your cats need to get out of that house ASAP! If that is not possible, you need to look to rehoming the cats, ASAP. If you care about them, that is the best thing for them. Find a loving home that appreciates and understands cats. If you can't do it, look into no-kill shelters in your area. It would be the best option for them. Letting them stay there will harm them, if not physically (dog), then mentally - which will affect their behavior, not to mention their happiness, and make them even harder to live with.

I'm sorry you have to live in this situation, but I am more sorry for the cats. If the people were trainable, the problems could easily be solved. But they don't sound willing.

And yes, if the cats haven't been spayed or neutered or given proper vaccinations, PLEASE find a low cost clinic and do that ASAP, if you don't rehome them.

Good luck!

Robin

edit: Oh, and one way to keep cats off counters is to put Sticky Paws tape (sold at Petsmart and the like) on the counters. Also some people use the plastic bumpy rug liners - bumps up. But, leaving food on the counters is a terrible temptation to cats. It shouldn't be happening in a household with cats.
post #5 of 13
Not a good situation for the cat or for you either. This type of action towards a cat creates a fearful, aggressive and skittish cat. Pretty soon, this cat is going to turn on the people/animals who are hurting her and it won't be pretty but in the meantime, she is going to turn into a total mess. Where do you live? Can you possibly find an alternative home for her with a friend or someone who doesn't go off the deep end when she jumps on counters?

If she is locked up in the garage is it heated? Are there cat beds, cat condos, toys that she can play with? If it is heated can you move a sofabed into the garage and sleep out there with her at night? Or at least put her in your room and keep the door closed?

My heart aches for this kitty who definitely deserves better than to live in fear. She is more than likely getting up off the floor away from the feet that chase her, the dog that tries to bite her and all the other chaos.
post #6 of 13
I know you requested advice on counter surfing, but after reading your post, that is the least of my concern.

I am so sad for your cats. If I were you, I would keep my cats in my room and away from the other people in the house. Can you do that?? If not, I would consider moving if at all possible. This is animal abuse and I would go off on anyone who treated my cats that way. I think your cats are howing and yowling because they are unhappy and feel frightened in this living situation. Gosh, I wish you good luck in trying to move these cats and yourself to another place.
post #7 of 13
This is a very bad situation for your cats. Anyone who hits a cat or dog, will have no problem hitting a person, especially a child.

Hitting your cats is animal abuse, and it will get worse. What you need to do for your cats is get them out of there! Do you have friends who could take your cats? or other family members who could take your cats?
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
I am working on getting out of the house, but as I just began my job about two weeks ago,it may take a while to save up enough to move, especially since they lied to me about how much I'd be making. And especially with being forced to go to grad school and needing to cough up $500 or so every few months for a few days at a hotel (long story) or needing to pay around $600 a month for my last degree.

Unfortunately, there is no one around here who I know that I trust enough to take my cats. Everyone I know lives at home and I do not trust their families to not let the cats out and not harm them. Like my BF, whose father is the one who abandoned a cat a few towns over because she was peeing on the wall.

I also could not make myself give my cats away - they are going on 13 years old and no one will take them, and I just could not re-home them when they've been with me for over a decade. I'd rather kill everyone in my current living space. No no-kill shelters either - the nearest cat sanctuary closed many years ago as well. Honestly, my female has not experienced a behavioral change - she acts exactly the same as she always has, which is good.

I really don't know why people leave food on the counters anyway. Believe me, I am of the thought that they are tempting the cat as well. I guess they like to leave dinner out for a few hours because my mother thinks putting hot food in the fridge will cause botulism to grow in it or because taking stuff out of the fridge when it's wanted is too hard for their precious little selves. I suggest putting food in an unheated oven until everyone is full, but that's too hard for them too, I guess.

I have also tried keeping the cat in my room, but the thing is she will not sleep when I do. She will whine at the door and start climbing all over everything and subsequently knock things over. And there is no room in the garage for a couch, but the cats DO have a nice warm room with lots of sleeping spots for them, so I know they're comfy. Sometimes they don't come out when I open the door because they're napping.

And yes, she is spayed. The other two males are neutered. My female cat just loves to eat, though...and being scared, shooed, yelled at, or smacked has not deterred her in the least. And their nighttime howling I know is from separation anxiety - when one of them thinks they are all alone (either no human or cat proximity), they will whine. Thing is when people need to wake up at 4 am and the cats are whining at 2 am, they are not sympathetic to their need for companionship. Sometimes, though, they do sleep quietly...like I might forget to put one of them in the garage and they're asleep soundly on the couch in the living room.

But honestly, folks. I really would like to ask if there is a way I can possibly train the cat, or rather, discourage her counter-hopping. And I'd like to kindly ask that suggestions involving me re-homing the cats be left out because, honestly, that will not happen. Sticking her with a stranger, a friend, or a shelter will make her life worse, not better, so I would rather not do such things to her. I am working my hardest to get out, but I don't think it'll happen while my cats are alive.

I will try Sticky Paws tape, or maybe double-sided tape that I have around here someplace. I may try keeping one of those salon-style squirt bottles full of water handy so I can give her a little mist when she hops up. Heck, I don't even see why people in this house get so infuriated when she gets on the counter. Thank you all for your advice - I appreciate all of it, though I may only be able to actually utilize some of it.
post #9 of 13
Seems money is a bit tight for you, but if you can set aside 30 dollars or so, you could invest in a Ssscat (If double sided tape or any other methods fail). Its a little can with a sensor on it that sprays compressed air when the cat is within 3 feet of it. I think you get 200 sprays from a single can. That way she can learn to keep off the counter even when there are no people around.

I can understand their frustration. I, personally, do not like our cats on the counter either. They go in the litter box and dig around in feces an urine. Yucky.
However, it certainly doesn't warrant screaming at or hitting the kitty. Anywho, good luck. I hope it works out for you and your fur babies.
post #10 of 13
You could try a couple of Scat mats. I have used them in the past and they have three levels, use the lowest level and place them on the counter where she typically leaps to from the floor. I have touched these mats to see how much of a zap they give off. It is mild, but will get the point across quickly and she will learn to stay off the counter, hopefully, some cats are smart and figure out where they are located.

I don't care if my cats are on the counters anymore so I don't use them now. But I did use them a while back with one cat who was even walking on the stove and I was worried about that for sure. He was a very smart cat, and learned the measurements of the Scat mat and just walked around it. So it never worked for him. I just ended putting the mats away because they were useless for this cat. I know some people who have great success with these mats, it just depends on how persistent and confident your cat is. I surely wish you luck in training your cat to stay off the counters, because that seems to be the only thing she does that annoys the people you live with. It sure would help if people wouldn't leave the food sitting out!! I would think that would cause the food to spoil and have a greater risk to make people sick, then just putting warm food directly into the fridge. That's what microwaves are for, heating up leftovers!! You sound like you really love your cats and are doing what you can to keep them safe
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
The counter-hopping is one of two habits of hers that bug people...the other is her howling and whining when she knows someone has food. She will sit right beside whoever is eating and wait for a scrap. I can handle hearing her whine all day long, but my mother's fuse is much, much shorter and she'll just give in and give the cat a treat. Then she wonders why the cat bothers her more than me.

I wonder if maybe I could get a can of compressed air and spray it at her when she gets up there? Sometimes I do catch her. I know before, when the cats would act up, people would rattle a can with some pennies in it and that worked very well. No hitting or screaming. I think everyone just got lazier and angrier over the years and now doing that is too much of a hassle.

Would the sensor-operated compressed air work just on the cat, or would it go off on anyone who goes near the counter? I only ask because if it sprays my mother or her idiot, they'll probably rip it off and throw it outside. Or if it were to go off at night and make the dogs start barking, that'd be my fault too. My mother and her moron pretty much look for things to yell about, and the cats and I are often very easy targets.

Honestly, if Mom had it her way, the cats would never come out of the garage. They'd just stay in there 24/7. I do love my cats and they are happy - every single one of them will sit on my lap every night or if I'm doing work on my laptop. My female does this especially and she'll twist herself into the most uncomfortable looking positions and fall asleep while purring like a chainsaw.
post #12 of 13
Instead of using scare tactics which don't work anyway and just serves to scare cats- use positive reinforcement like clicker training. You can buy a clicker inexpensively and a new book Naughty No More takes you step by step through the process.

You can also install a rather tall and stable cat condo in the kitchen to give her an alternate place to perch and do your best to be the maid in the kitchen and clean up after meals- getting rid of all food sources.

At her age being that hungry all the time has she been vet checked recently?
post #13 of 13
You could try Ssscat. I bought that to keep Luna away from the door, but haven't used it yet. So I don't know if it works. I know this sounds kinda stupid, but you could leave orange peels on the counter. Orange peels repulse Luna. She won't go near them.
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