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post #31 of 55
2/5/11 at 10:46am
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I bought this bag from Tractor Supply (I would rather not list city) in VA. It was a 18lb bag for $22. I am going to go to a tractor supply in the opposite direction and probably pick up a small bag to try and see if there is any difference, I will post that code tomorrow.

I really wish I had of saved the bag. Gah!

Strange Wing you are a huge help. Thank you.
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post #32 of 55
2/5/11 at 11:11am
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How lucky am I?! DH found the bag in the garage! It had fallen behind the barrels and got missed at the last trash run & he found it today while getting up the trash to head to the dump. WOO!

Production Code:
TCR1103021XFJ 04:27
best before: 23/NOV/2011
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post #33 of 55
2/5/11 at 11:19am
That is a lucky find!
But that's a November product, everyone else is speculating about December ones. Interesting!

Trying to find the commonality between those bags (source) is about all we can do. The latest (Dec.) bag I got doesn't seem to bother mine at all, no pickiness or regurgitating so something must be different from the ones others are getting. (note: Blasa and Tanna can sometimes be sensitive, so I'd think if something was drastically off they'd have vomited)
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post #34 of 55
2/5/11 at 11:34am
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Hmm. Well, the last time we bought a bag before this would of been about 2 months ago, so if this was the older bag it would of been noticed behind the barrels before now. So I am certain this is the newest one.

I get the feeling that this is going to be a long drawn out process, but at the very least I can get the refund on this bag now. I am really hoping some similarity crops up soon so we can figure out what's up.
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post #35 of 55
2/5/11 at 1:43pm
This is the numbers on the bag the cats finished on Monday:

TCR1201 C21MS0954TPB Best by Dec 7 2011

The 2nd bag the didn't touch:

TCR0102 B21MS2304 KWG best by 1-14-2012.

These are the 18# bags. We compared ingredient lists on both this morning and they were exactly the same.

When I picked up this 2nd bag the person helping me at the store said that sometimes the food at the end of a batch run may not be very good. Interesting comment.

When I spoke to the mgr at PSP she was surprised at the comments I was making.
She recommended I buy Chicken Soup for the cat lovers soul. Bender at least ate this, Bakker maybe a little. She had said the smell is more appetizing for fussy cats.
I'll see how this one goes over the weekend.
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post #36 of 55
2/5/11 at 1:56pm
A little more digging, since their site doesn't outright list it - Has anyone had any problems with other Diamond foods? I know there's several who feed Kirkland brand. If this was an ingredient source change it will affect other formulas.
I'm (and DH) still at a lost as how they identify the particular plants. All foods should really use one unified easy to read code for this... It's a printer, it really wouldn't be difficult to make it easy to understand.
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post #37 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:01pm
[b]MORE INFO:[b]

I did a google search for Taste of the Wild pet food production facilities and found a forum about a TOTW dog food recall in 2009.(Itchmo forums.com)

I haven't researched farther yet but this food is made by Diamond Pet Food and has three plants. One in Gaston SC, Meta MO & Lathrop,CA.

I just googled diamond pet foods and they also make the food I just bought-grrrr.....

So hopefully more us us can find some info.
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post #38 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:06pm
^Yes, I should have mentioned in my last post that they make Chicken Soup - I was coming back to mention that. Again, there may not be anything actually wrong with the food, but just enough of a change that cats with touchy stomachs will regurgitate, much like they would with a sudden food switch.

All you can do is make certain that you include your location, where the food was purchased, and the codes when you report it to them. And of course set the food aside (and not use anymore of it) in case you need to return it or send some back to Diamond.
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post #39 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:08pm
I found a helpful website: http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/how...-pet-food.html

Might work for reporting purposes. I couldn't find anything recent about TOTW.

I left a long comment/concern on diamond pet foods website. I copied my message to Word so I have a copy of what I wrote. I did mention contacting the FDA this week and my vet. I gave them 2 business days for a response which after sending the message is their "standard" response time.

We shall see if I hear anything......................
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post #40 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:11pm
^Well for those with cats that refuse to touch the food there's nothing for a vet to treat.
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post #41 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:47pm
Well the website said to contact your vet! And I agree with you.
Bender though being a stray a couple of years ago is a heavy eater-don't disturb that cat when he is eating. He will let you know if the dish is empty! He isn't a fussy eater at all so this bothers me. I had to break down and feed them wet food the past couple of days and they chowed that down in nothing flat.
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post #42 of 55
2/5/11 at 2:58pm
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"Diamond is a large pet food manufacturer that had many of its products recalled in the past few years. The problems seem to be solved, and Taste of the Wild was not one of the products that had been recalled. Most of the recalls were due to contamination of the rice products in the foods. Since Taste of the Wild cat food doesn't have any grain products these recalls did not apply to this brand. "
and that was on: http://cats.lovetoknow.com/Taste_of_the_Wild_Cat_Food

Also, found a post on Itchomo from January 26 2011 about a cat developing a sudden severe reaction which they says seems like a skin reaction...
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post #43 of 55
2/5/11 at 3:17pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
We really need more codes. If it's not out of anyone's way can you stop in the stores you shop and write down a code or two? PLUS share your location if you don't list it. I'd like to see if we can figure out who's getting what from where in their areas.
I don't know if this will help. I bought this bag quite some time ago - I just give it to them as treats, so it lasts a long time. Its a 5 lb bag bought in a store near Raleigh, NC. The code is:

TCR0404D2XD
Best by 27-Apr-2011
00:05 CJ

I've been following this thread, and I'm really upset about all this because they just love this stuff for treats. I'm going to have to find them something else for treats, I guess. I just get so mad at these pet food companies and it seems its all about the bottom line and not the health of the pets.

Good luck sorting all this out, and I definitely won't be buying any more bags at least until I see what's going on.
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post #44 of 55
2/5/11 at 5:40pm
4 on kirkland here and a dog on kirkland no issues
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post #45 of 55
2/5/11 at 8:52pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Misty8723 View Post
I just get so mad at these pet food companies and it seems its all about the bottom line and not the health of the pets.
That is always the most frustrating part and what really has me upset. It's all about the money it seems, especially when I called and chatted with them and it seemed that my problem was of no interest. THAT is upsetting to me.
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post #46 of 55
2/5/11 at 9:10pm
My guys are eating TOTW (new fishy kind) as a primary part of their diet. Only vomiting issues have been from Eden, who snagged a bite of the wrong food that always makes her puke - not TOTW related vomiting. My TOTW is a new small bag I purchased w/in the last month.

Two of three dogs also eat TOTW & haven't had any issues.
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post #47 of 55
2/6/11 at 4:46am
Not eating as much new food as I would like but hopefully that will get better.
I posted a comment on my FB page to my cat owner friends.
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post #48 of 55
2/6/11 at 10:07am
I bought a bag a week ago and Festus is eating his. I'm from southeastern Wisconsin.

TCR 1203 MC
Best By
16-DEC 2011
05:21 GJO

5 lb bag
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post #49 of 55
2/6/11 at 12:09pm
TOTW has a facebook page. I had to "like" in order to post a big concern. Please do so as well as maybe an answer will come faster..
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post #50 of 55
2/6/11 at 8:26pm
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Thanks for the heads up Gail. I never thought to see if they had a facebook page. I do love how they say that it's the balanced food that nature intended... I am not really sure that I could see my 11-12lb kitties hunting deer, but hey, it makes for funny thoughts.

Anyway, I checked out the bags of TOTW at the other Tractor Supply and they were all December 11 bags, so I really could not bring myself to risk making Louie pukey, and went ahead and went to petsmart and bought a bag of Blue Buffalo Basics to try for now. All 3 boys ate a tiny bit (I'm figuring simply slowly increasing their amount of dry would be the way to go since I can't mix it with TOTW?) of it, and the only one who puked (the one thing I try to avoid... ha!) was Louie and his was a case of the scarf and barf. It all came up whole he was so excited to get dry. But he didn't act like he had a stomach ache or felt icky afterward like he had after eating TOTW. So I'm pretty sure it was him eating too quickly. Silly boy.
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post #51 of 55
2/7/11 at 4:52am
My FB post disappeared from their page shortly after I posted it. Grrrrrrr.

Well I'll wait for a response from Diamond Pet Foods. Mine ate a little of the Chicken Soup but I'll probably switch them off as its made by the same company.
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post #52 of 55
2/7/11 at 6:54am
I went to their FaceBook page right after I saw your post on here, and it must have already been gone--that makes me wonder!
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post #53 of 55
2/7/11 at 9:17am
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Gail, I looked for your post immediately after reading your post here, and I did not see it. I meant to get back on and tell you, but I had to get to bed. Obviously they don't want any negative feedback on their wall! Which could just be that they don't want to freak people out that something may be off... But again, I like a company that is honest and open... I guess that is hard to find these days.

I wonder how long it will take me to get my refund for this bag. I plan to mail the information in a day or 2. It is a shame that I can't simply tell them the #s and where I got it and they send me a refund - instead I have to risk them saying they "never even got it".
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post #54 of 55
2/7/11 at 5:26pm
I got an email today actually this afternoon from Diamond Pet Foods.
They have a case # assigned and I have an email address.

So if anyone wants to voice their concern on TOTW, either post a message on the feedback section of Diamond Pet Foods website (they make TOTW).

Or PM me for the email address.

I am returning tomorrow my second bag of TOTW (keeping some of course) and I will see if they have the 1st bag I returned to get the production number. And returning the bag from Petsmart of the "by Nature" that the cats did like either.

They I don't quite know which ones are eating the Chicken Soup but I went to Petco and spoke at length to their cat food expert and yes have yet another food to try. Its by merrick and its called before B.G. grain. (the tuna flavour). Bender did eat it when I put it out and Bender walked away but ate some later. I'm not in the family room so I didn't see if the girls ate anything yet.

So thats the update so far............
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post #55 of 55
3/13/11 at 9:47pm
I am looking for answers to this exact same issue. I have 7 cats that eat Taste of the Wild dry food and various brands of wet food. The new bag of TOTW is NOT being eaten. Even my "dry food only" cat will not touch it and he has resorted to the wet food. They all go to the bowl, sniff, take a bite and leave.

Any updates on what might be going on? I called TOTW and they claimed no formula change and that they have heard no complaints......hmmm.

Thanks for any info.
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