Did TOTW change ingrediants?

Most companies when a change goes thru "use" old bags for up to six months( half legal)... So they may and we may not know for a bit.. Have to ask STUPID ? though... could you have grabed a bag of the new flavors instead of the original?

My cats did not like the new flavour at all. Bender threw up alot with it so I went back to the Green bag flavour. I have to pick up more tomorrow so I will ask the store if they have any info.

The new flavor gave two of my 5 cats terrible loose stools I had to toss it..

TOTW is in my rotation of dry and wet food. My cat loves both variety. Interestingly, a couple of weeks ago, I bought a new bag of TOTW and he doesn't seem to like it as much. Normally he would not have a problem finishing the 1/4 cup, but with the new bag, he's been leaving leftover and sometimes would not eat them. He doesn't throw up or have diarrhea, but he's just not eating the TOTW dry as voraciously as he has done before. He still loves the canned TOTW.

I, too, wondered if they had changed ingredients. I thought about posting the very same question on TCS, but did not because I figure my cat was just bored with what he was eating.

Could have been a "bad" bag? Spoiled somehow... It is strange that you have fed this with no problems before this bag. If you have the bag, bring it back and the store will replace it, if you still want to feed TOTW. I did try this food for my cats (I have to be so careful Pipsqueak's digestion probs) and I had very loose poops even with the proper slow switching over of my old diet to this one.

I did feed my dogs this food for a short time and they did fine except for the "Fowl" ?? They both got terrible runny stools.... I got then off of TOTW right away and things cleared up.

I wasn't aware that TOTW had started making a new flavor for cats, but I'm pretty sure I would have noticed the different picture on the bag. I feed a mix of TOTW, Indigo Moon, and Authority Indoor. I can't do totally grain-free because two of my cats don't do well on it. I did notice after the most recent mixing with new bags of all three that there was more throwing up, two or three times a day. It was always the whole kibbles, so I figured it was another case of scarf-and-barf. I don't see it happen every time, but I know it's been at least three different cats. After about three weeks it's slowed down to maybe once every other day so maybe they're getting used to whatever changed.

I can't pick out the TOTW since everything is already mixed together and TOTW and Indigo Moon are the same shape kibbles. Maybe for the next batch I'll try just Indigo Moon and Authority to see what happens.

never had a problem with the stuff my 3 love the green bag but the yellow one they didnt like it at all and petland would not take it back after they told me it had a taste back gurantee so i called the company and they asked me to send them the upc from the bag with the original receipt and send them a letter with my info include the problem and they sent me a check back for the value with tax and all so now i took the yellow bag and feed it to the strays around here they seem not to complain either

Hopefully the company will get back to you quickly. I only have enough in my TOTW bag for another few days----

I haven't tried the new flavor, but I did pick up a sample--it only has 32% protein, while the original flavor is 42%.

I picked up a bag of the green last nite and fed the cats. I guess I didn't check their dishes this morning (I have 4 full dishes) and when I went tonite to check they were still full. Well three of them-the 4th I carried upstairs and have by bobbers sofa bed as her tumor is pressing on a nerve and she doesn't have to walk so far. That dish was pretty much empty. I carried another upstairs and I'll have to see tomorrow how much food is left.
The two girls do not eat very much to begin with. Bender is usually the piggy one.
All the cats didn't like the new flavor Bender threw up quite a bit.
I donated that bag to an animal rescue. I hope I don't have to search for another food that is corn free.

if you have time i would fill out the info to the FDA maybe their is something wrong with that batch or something you can find out how to fill out a report here http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/.../ucm182403.htm and fill it out here https://www.safetyreporting.hhs.gov/...110162039BD528 i just bought a new green bag of it and hope i dont have the same problem and i believe you dont have to sign up on their web site to make a report but if you do i think they send you a follow up and up dates about it not for sure but its worth a shot anyway i have been researching it on google and alot of people are having the same prob with their dog food from 2009 and up this is the only place i can find that people are having issues with the cat food best of luck and hope it works out

I noticed this thread yesterday, so when I opened my new green bag I compared the ingredients to the previous green bag. The 5th ingredient down, USED to be potato protein, on the new bag it has pea protein listed instead...

I just opened this bag so the cats have not passed judgement yet..... but compared to the previous bag the kibble also is lighter in color AND a smaller size of kibble...

Hope that helps....

I'll be interested to see what mine think of it.....

Lisa

Mine haven't touched the dishes in the basement-well barely. They should be empty. The other two dishes were a little better but with one cat that has a really good appetite the dishes should be empty.
Today after work I'll call around to some of the places that carry TOTH to see if they have any answers.

I checked my label with the current bag that the one from a couple of days ago and they ingredient label is the same. The use by date is Dec 2011. Bender is smelling the bag as we speak and I put 4 pieces on the ground and he walked away...........

eeep! This is what I feed my boys. No problems here except occasionally with the scarf n barf cat. With seven they go through it pretty quickly... I just opened a smaller bag on Tuesday and it smelled fine to me.

I just got a new bag the other day that I haven't opened yet.. It still has potato protein as the 5th ingredient.

Production code on it is TOR1203 021MS0330 JOR Best Before 16DEC2011

My husband isn't here to translate the first part out, but that should be shift, date made, and plant identification. Anyone else getting theirs from the same plant?

For what it's worth Tomas tried to grab and chew on the bag a second ago as I sat here holding it, but he's not picky (and can't even have TOTW).

I also occasionally pick up a few cans of the wet TOTW. Yesterday I opened a can that was nothing but gravy. There was no wet food in it. The gravy smells and looks fine so I'm unsure it I should use it (what cat doesn't like gravy?), I'm pretty sure that's just an accident from starting the line up or someone not monitoring the amount of food going in with the gravy.

I've seen peas on the ingredient list as second for as long as I've used TOTW. While cats can develpe allergies to peas, its unlikely all of them would at the same time.

There's been no changes in the bags I've had, I check everytime and am sometimes slow about tossing the last empty bag.

Those having problems or claiming the ingredients have changed, can you post the production code (not the best by date, the code above it)? This may be a problem with a batch from one shift due to human error.

And I'm not concerned over $1. Even taking it back to the store would cost more in gas. It was a simple harmless production error (timing issue of some sort I'd guess). Better that a can be missing food than have something in it that shouldn't be and that I might not have seen.

Well Pets Supply Plus took the bag back and the new bag has a Jan 2012 date.

I should have written down the numbers on the bag I returned. But I think that date was the same?

But the boys are not eating this bag either. I saw Grizzlie eat the bit of food left from the Tues bag. I'll give it till Sat morning and if they aren't eating this I'll return it again and pick up another food entirely.

Bex, like strange wings said, peas are second in the list. Here is the lot number info:

Old bag - TCR 1101 MD(?)
Best by 16 Nov 2011
17:41 MBB

new bag-TCR 1204 MD
Best by 22 Dec 2011
00:35 JEC

so far they are eating it like usual....

Lisa

I don't know why I just noticed this thread, but I'm glad I did. I was going to start one of my own about this very same topic.

Three of my 4 cats eat a 75% wet/25% dry diet. Their dry food is TOTW. The other cat has allergies and eats Royal Canin's Hypoallergenic 23 dry food along with Hill's Z/D wet. I bought a new bag of TOTW last week and all 3 of my cats on the food went off of it within 24 hours. There was no vomiting, but some diarrhea from one of the kitties. I waited a day and then tossed the contents and bought another bag from another store. This time, the same thing happened and included two vomiting cats. I didn't wait at all this time and threw out the contents (I should have kept the original bags, but didn't -- admittedly, this was not a good idea as I now no longer have access to the lot numbers). Since my other cats occasionally eat the RC Hypo 23, I have had them on that. I will be looking into other options later on today, but I wanted to let others know that I had this issue. And, interestingly enough, I found this thread when I came here instead.

I have called TOTW, but without the bag information, there's not much anyone can do. But, I did report an issue, so, that's a start.

For those still feeding the food or dealing with the company, please keep us all posted. My cats did so well on it up until now and this is a bit disappointing, to say the least...

Well my male cats are still not eating the 2nd bag of TOTW. I picked up a bag at Petsmart tonite By Nature? I'd have to run down and check. Its grain free but they don't seem to like that much either. I'll see how much is gone tomorrow.
Grizzlie is still eating the TOTW. Bobber is eating so little nowaday I can't tell with her. But I have a dish of both types up by her bed.

I do still have the last "good" bag as I was using it to fill with used cat litter! I'll have to check out the numbers on the bottom.
I was going to return the 2nd "new" bag tomorrow morning to Pets Supply Plus but if they are eating the newer stuff maybe I'll wait until monday and try to contact the company.
I alternate going to this pet store and an independent store that carries TOTW. I don't know if that has any influence.

I read the ingredient list on the last "old" bag that they ate to the one I purchased thursday. The ingredient list is the exact same. So one of the sources of their ingredients must have changed. I'll hang one and call them monday. The new bag of "by Nature" they don't like either. So I'm going to find another to try....

We really need more codes. If it's not out of anyone's way can you stop in the stores you shop and write down a code or two? PLUS share your location if you don't list it. I'd like to see if we can figure out who's getting what from where in their areas.

I'm trying to make sense of their codes, each plant is different and it looks like TOTW is a bid product made by other plants? (whoever can make it cheaper wins the bid - this doesn't necessarily make poor quality, just cheaper manufacturing/competing price). What I wonder is if a) ingredient supply changed (less likely because many stick with local for a lot of things - it's cheaper to pay less to have the ingredients brought from nearer) b) Shift error or something wrong with the equipment c) Different plant in an area won the bid and took over the product.

If I'm translating this correctly TOR1203 021MS0330 JOR The MS may mean Mississippi? This would make some sense shipping wise because I'm in Oklahoma. 1203 is the manufactured by date. I'm not sure what TOR or JOR is, anyone know? 0330 would be time (indicate shift).

If the problem could be narrowed down better it might be easier to figure out what is wrong.

Oh and the bit about the bags being legal to use for 6 months is false. This is enforced by the FDA, product labeling must match the product whether it's pet or human food. Maybe it wasn't the case a few years ago, but it is now.
Any manufacturer has those new bags printed and shipped to the plant before the product is made. Heck, product gets recalled (mini recall, not from store recall) for having slightly incorrect stickering (maybe printed out with the wrong format but with all the right information).
Aside from that.. Sometimes they like to advertise their "new and improved" formula. Which, btw, if anyone knows someone that feeds Pedigree dry dog food, starting Monday the new formula should start appearing on store shelves. I don't remember what all was changed, but it's quite a bit. Also remember that many shelters use Pedigree due to Mars being quite active in their donations, so maybe mention it to people at your local shelters and tell them to be on the look out.

Do you think it makes any difference on the size of the bag, as to where it is manufactured? I just buy the 5 lb. bags. On my latest bag which is almost empty--have to buy more next week-- part I can make out (the first letter is very blurred, could be an R. I have left this spot blank, is:

0901 MD
BEST BY
SEP 2011
25 JEC

I am in the Houston, TX area. This was a "good" bag.

^Odd. I know more than one plant makes this food. We logically should have the same plant being somewhat close to each other. But it depends on who has what available when it needs to be shipped.

The machines that bag handle different sizes, so the same plants would just run on different sized bags as needed. The food would be the exact same. Again, if we could limit it down to a day/shift it could simply be human error. Sometimes people forget to add things and Q&A misses it or just doesn't want to bother with it. Some people are lazy.. Others don't want to get friends in trouble/fired. Most recalls (smaller non-public ones) come from singular plants within a small time window due to that sort of error.

If more dates, shifts, and plants are involved someone made a bigger change that isn't going to be corrected anytime soon.

If that's the case, for those looking for a similar food there's 4health.