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New cat won't stop attacking older cat

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
Hey Everyone,

I just tracked down this site, hoping that someone here can give me some advice. I adopted a new 5 year old cat from a friend of mine last year when she moved. He's a great cat. Very social, vocal, and affectionate. He lived in a house with me and 3 other people for approx 7 months without ever an issue. I moved back home with my family, into a house with 3 dogs.

At first he was wary of the dogs, but when he figured out that they really don't care (we've had cats before, and the dogs know the drill... leave them alone!), he was fine. A few months ago we took in a stray that appeared in the neighborhood. The vet said he is about 1 year old. The first month or two were fine fine. The older cat wasn't happy about it, but just kept his space. The new cat started going after the older cat, and from the looks of it, was just play fighting. He never uses claws or displays any hostility. But the older cat is NOT happy about that at all.

The problem has gotten to the point where the older cat hides out in my room at home all day. He is too scared to leave the room because he is afraid the other cat will "attack" him, which about 95% of the time he does. As soon as he senses the other cat is coming, he goes into attack mode. It's gotten so bad that the older cat isn't eating as much, drinking as much, and had gone to the bathroom in my room a few times because he was too scared to go downstairs to use his litter pan.

It's gotten to the point where we have to restrain the younger cat, and carry the older one downstairs and physically put him in front of his litter pan or food. And all the while, the younger cat is trying to get away. And if he does, right back upstairs the older one goes.

I'm worried about the older cat's health, because he's visibly paranoid nearly all the time, not eating as much as he used to, not taking in enough liquid, and is turning from a very happy cat into a very grumpy one. Even when you pick him up to move him around, he cries and scratches to get away because the younger cat will climb up your leg to get at him.

I really really hate ever striking an animal, and the few times I've tried that to get him to stop it doesn't work. Nor does using a squirt bottle. He just keeps attacking. And the other cat's hissing and growling, and hitting back with claws does nothing to deter him either. I've tried the clicker training as well, and he doesn't respond to it. He's got excellent hearing, but it's very selective. What other options are out there for us? We don't have the option of keeping another litter box upstairs because our house is very small.

I really hope someone out there can help us. We've always had animals, and we're pretty crazy about them, and have had our share of problems, but this is totally new, and I can't find anything about it anywhere. A young cat that refuses to be put in it's place, by anyone, man, dog, or cat alike. I'd really like to be able to find some solution and get my happy cat back. Thanks in advance for any advice.

Matthew
post #2 of 5
Hi Matthew and Welcome to this site!! You do have a serious problem going on with your poor cat. Alot of changes too this last year for your cat and that alone can cause serious stress. This new cat has taken over the house and your cat is suffering because of that and something has to change.

This is not fair to your cat to have to deal with this. He is not eating, drinking or using the litter box?? Now you will have a very sick cat on your hands as well, and the other cat will even be more motivated to pick on your cat being so scared. The new cat is bulleying your older cat. You must put a litter box in your room, food and water in your room and keep your cat in there for the time being until he can feel safe and start eating again. Keep the two cats separated. Even better than that, would be to confine the new cat to it's own room and let you resident cat have the house back again. If you are unable to do this and keep these two separated for now, then I would try to find another home for the new cat as he is way to agressive with your own cat who has no confidence around this new cat. And the new cat is taking full advantage of that!! You must find a way to make your older cat safe again or you will not only be dealing with cats fighting, you will be dealing with a sick cat and vet bills.

First and foremost, you must get your cat eating and drinking again. So you need them separated and if your house is too small to manage that then a new home for the new cat is in order. NEVER hit a cat, that will cause so much more confusion and stress for both cats and cause the new one to transfer his aggression from that onto your cat and make matters so much worse. It is a vicious circle. And a spray bottle won't work either for this situation. It will aggravate the new cat to be more aggressive.

Also, carrying your cat to the litter box will only add to his anxiety and he will just run off and hide in your room, probably being chased by the other cat at the same time. OH DEAR your poor cat. Again, I would keep your cat in your room with litter box, food (nice canned food to start) and water. And try to find another home for this other cat in the meantime. Usually cats can get along, but it sounds like too much for your older cat with all the changes this year and you probably didn't introduce the cats properly in the first place and this can have serious consequences in how they will relate to eachother in the future. First meetings have to be so slow and done over a few weeks to make it the relationship start off in a positive way. It can take weeks for new older cats to get along and if it was done too quickly and incorrectly the day the new cat came in, then there could be too much emotional damage for your older cat to be able to ever trust and get along with the new one.

I sure hope I helped, too much information???? Hope you can get this resolved today!!!!! Your cat needs a safe place right now of his own.
post #3 of 5
You said your cat isn't eating? It's very important he eats. If he doesn't eat he can go into liver failure.

Can you keep the cats in different rooms? Keep food, water and a litter box in each room for them?

Have you tried using Feliway?
post #4 of 5
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies. There's always so much information you want to relay, but not sure what's important or not until people start asking questions. So hopefully I'll be able to give more, and get more!

Right off the bat, I want to address the hitting. That was only 2 times, and it was during the "incidents". And not to try and justify it, or make excuses for myself, they were very light, wish a pushing follow through. Just as much to get the younger cat away as it was to try and dissuade the behavior.

I mentioned that our house is small, and I can't overemphasize that. It's an old cottage built in the late 1800's. It's been updated and modernized, but there's still no escaping the fact that it's SMALL! There's really nowhere to hide in this house, for animals or humans alike! Putting a litterbox in my room it's litterally impossible. We're in the process of remodeling part of the downstairs to make an additional room, so the upstairs can eventually be opened up. So the added construction is making things even tighter.

I honestly don't believe the younger cat is bullying, or doing any kind of territorial thing, because while he is always doing it, it's not ALL the time. There will be many occasions where the older cat will be on my bed, and the younger one will jump up and lay down right next to him and go to sleep. The older cat will growl and hiss, but generally be too afraid to run away, because that's when he gets chased. And then he'll eventually fall asleep, and they'll be there together for a while. It's just any time the older cat tried to get away and run, the younger cat goes into attack/play mode. Like I mentioned, he does the same things to the 3 dogs we have, but they just ignore him, and he gives up and goes to take a nap. Zeke, the older cat (so much easier to just use their names), is still pretty much ruler of the house. He'll still go into the dogs' crates and sleep, making the dogs very confused. He still does everything he's always done, just alot less of it, and never totally relaxed. He's always looking over his shoulder, and rightfully so.

We got the wet food back out for Zeke. It's his favorite, and goes right back to his sprightly self when he sees the can. So today he's eaten normally again. I guess the meat and gravy are enough to overpower his paranoia.

Zeke does still use the litter pan on his own, but if he goes the whole day without using it, I've been taking him in the bathroom with me while I use the shower, and he goes in on his own then.

And what's the most confusing about the whole thing is that for nearly 2 months they were fine together. They weren't best friends, but they would just ignore each other and do their things. We took in Moe (the younger one) and did the whole acclimation process we always do with cats, keeping them separate, letting them get used to each other little by little. But then all of a sudden, Moe just got more playful. He doesn't try to get Zeke out of a room, or off of a piece of furniture. He displays no kind of aggressive or territorial signs (we've had lots of cats over the years, and know the signs well). He just wants to play, but Zeke doesn't like to play. He's more content to curl up on your lap of on your shoulder and sleep. But he doesn't do that anymore because Moe sneaks up and hits him. Zeke tries to ignore him, he hisses, growls, hides, and Moe just takes a few whacks and then flops over and takes a nap. I know cats are peculiar animals who do seemingly strange things for no reason.

I've seen people mention different toys. Moe likes his toys, and plays with the, quite a bit, but they're static. Are there any more interactive toys that anyone might recommend? Things that move on their own or run away? It seems like Moe just wants something to chase, and since Zeke runs when he hits him, vs. the dogs who just stand there, Zeke is his favorite toy.

More of a background on both cats too. Zeke, as I said, I adopted from a friend of mine who moved and couldn't take him. He's moved quite a few times in his life. His previous owner was a fellow music student in college, and a bit of a gypsy. Lived a bunch of places for a few weeks or months here and there, and even out of her car for a while. So Zeke is an old pro when it comes to new environments, and he always takes it in stride. He's always lived with other cats on at least 4 or 5 occasions, and he's always been very affectionate and tolerant with other cats.

Moe just appeared in our yard while I was out doing yardwork with my mom. He say there, meowed, rubbed, sat in our laps, and was more than happy to be helping. We took him in partly because some of the cats in the neighborhood are very aggressive, and since he's so much smaller than they are, we didn't want him getting hurt. Within minutes of being in the house on his own, he curled up on the couch and took a nap, so he was definitely someone's pet. He also had the mark on the fur around his neck, so you could see that he did have a collar on. Noone in the neighborhood had seem him before, and noone's reported a cat like him missing. His markings are distictive. He's while with black spots like a cow. Naming his was a tossup between Moe and Moo Moo (for obvious reasons). He is a very gentle and affectionate cat. He's never scratched anyone, and like I said, when he does hit Zeke, he never uses claws. He seems to just be a playful young cat, who is lacking a playmate.

I don't know if any of that massive amount of information sheds any more light on things or not. Moe just seems to be one of those personalities that on it's own, just doesn't know when to stop. He gets an idea in his head, and doesn't let it go. Any kitty psychiatrists out there?

Thanks again for your comments, and we'll try our best here to do what we can, with the space we have to work with!

Matthew
post #5 of 5
Hi and it sounds a bit better now with all of your information! Since the cats have napped near eachother at times, then Zeke has accepted Moe, but just doesn't want to play much with Moe. Interactive toys would be a great way to burn off Moe's energy and I would do two or three ten to fifteen minute session everyday to satisfy him. There are lots of wand toys to choose from. Mine love Da Bird and CatCatcher. Wand toys with feathers. OH and the absolute favorite is THE CAT DANCER!!!!! It it is a cheap three dollar toy and they go nuts for it. It really brings out the thrill of the chase/hunt in them. It is a wire toy with tight rolled small pieces of cardboard on the end. It looks like a big dragonfly and that will get Moe going.

If you play with Moe this way, I assure you he will be more apt to leave Zeke alone. You might be surprised too, Zeke will probably join in on the fun. And then Moe and Zeke might bond closer if they play like that together. Give an update as to how this is working for you!!!
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