Still having soft stool, very stinky, gas, etc

jen

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Dec 27, 2001
Messages
8,501
Purraise
3,009
Location
Hudson, OH
My cat Da-Ku has had this problem for a long time. I have tried a handful of different foods. The latest is Blue Basics Limited Ingredient Formula with turkey and potato. He has been on it for months now. I thought it was getting better. But he goes to the box and passes loud gas and it just smells horrendous. It is always stuck around his behind. I am really at a loss of what to do next. Other then the fact that it is gross and I am getting sick of it, I feel bad for the poor guy.

I am tempted to just pick up a Purina One sensitive systems and see if the regular stuff works out lol. What do they put in sensitive systems food to make it help that problem?
 

sharky

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 30, 2005
Messages
27,231
Purraise
38
BLUE basics is = to most holistic formulas in the number of grains...

IMHO if you have access try something like Natural choice or California Natural

Or go to a no grain with one or two meats
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #3

jen

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Dec 27, 2001
Messages
8,501
Purraise
3,009
Location
Hudson, OH
Are Natural choice and California Natural grain free with one or two meats?
 

sharky

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 30, 2005
Messages
27,231
Purraise
38
no they are one /two grains with one or two meats... Acana comes to mind as a simplier grain free ... Instinct is also fairly basic( ie chicken and turkey vs chicken , fish and lamb)

but you have a one meat 3 grain 3 starch ... ie complicated for sensitive tummys
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #5

jen

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Dec 27, 2001
Messages
8,501
Purraise
3,009
Location
Hudson, OH
You are the best, thank you! Acana and Instinct I can get easily. Grain free is the route I want to go. I was thinking limited ingredients would work but apparently that is still too much for Da-Ku's little sensitive tummy.
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Is DaKu a male? I have read that some grain-free foods with a combination of resulting in higher urine PH and slightly bumped mercury levels and contribute to UTI risks, particularly those w/ fish in the first few ingredients.

I am thinking of switching to a sensitive tummy formula too, as Buttercup never has solid poos like Wesley if she eats too much dry (wet she's fine though, but it also has some pumpkin mixed in to each 12oz tub of it w/ is their primary food).
 

gardenandcats

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 4, 2005
Messages
2,514
Purraise
22
Location
Maine
Just a thought have you had your cat checked by your vet?Soft stinky stool can sometimes be more then a wrong type of food problem..
 

feralvr

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Dec 30, 2010
Messages
18,474
Purraise
689
Location
Northwest Indiana
Hi
one of my cats,pipsqueak, had terrible bouts of diarrhea and gas on and off for the first four years of his life. I tried every supplement and diet with no luck. Then I tried the grain free. He was on Fromm surf and turf and this helped him and made my life less stinky too
but his stools were still a bit loose. Then I tried wellness core. That was eight months ago and his poops are very firm now
all of my cats eat wellness core now and are doing great. Even the new ferals I took in are eating it and love it. I was going to try instinct but since the Core worked so well I stayed with it. They also get wellness canned varieties mixed in.

I totally understand the frustration and stink
you are dealing with. It is a food ingredient issue and you just have to keep trying different brands. But for sure grain free is the way to go. Keep posting to let us know what is working for your baby!!
 

breamarie

TCS Member
Adult Cat
Joined
Nov 9, 2008
Messages
131
Purraise
4
If nothing else works, ask a vet if you can try Royal Canin Hypoallergenic food. It's really expensive (the protein in it is soy), but it was the only thing that helped my cat Scarlett's constant gas and diarrhea. I had tried so many different things, I was thrilled to find it. It helped tremendously.
 

initforlove

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Jan 8, 2011
Messages
44
Purraise
11
Location
Melbourne australia
i hate to be the bearer of bad news but please get the vet to check your cat out

I read somewhere that offensive stools are a sign of cancer in ppl and in animals so a vet visit is recommended and then a change of diet could help

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/fo...ling_stool.htm

the link is about human health but perhaps there is a clue there for you to adapt to your situation

there is a good list of food intolerances there that you could try to work through with your cat

good luck

this seems to be a good article about dry foods and they have a canned food section done in this way also and that may be helpful

http://www.petforums.co.uk/cat-healt...food-cats.html
 

gardenandcats

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 4, 2005
Messages
2,514
Purraise
22
Location
Maine
Just 3 weeks ago my 13 year old yowdy was found to have Intestinial Lymphoma his symptoms where stinky stools very gasey and soft to liquid stools. I had him to the vet many times for this problem.They treated him with flagly diet changes..But it was not food problems it was the Lymphoma which by the time it was found he had the problem it was too late.
They tried to remove the tumor but during surgery they found many smaller secondary tumors and called during surgery and said it would be best to not let him wake from the surgery
... I miss him so much..Thats why I would not always anymore think that bowel problems where always food issues..
 

ranrules

TCS Member
Kitten
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
6
Purraise
2
Location
Florida
We adopted two kittens last September and one of them had horrible stinky gas and diahhrea. We had all kinds of tests done and they wormed her "just in case". When nothing showed, we went through changing her food several times. No help. Finally right around Thanksgiving I noticed some worms and blood in her stool. Our regular vet was closed for the holiday so we went to a new one. After a fecal sample, the problem was identified. Coccidia. I guess it's VERY difficult to detect and unless that particular sample has one of the organisms in it you won't know he has it. Luckily it showed up on Lacy's test. 10 days of meds and she was good as new!

Have a fecal done just to rule out other problems. Good luck!
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #13

jen

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Dec 27, 2001
Messages
8,501
Purraise
3,009
Location
Hudson, OH
I have had him to the vet and his stool tested. It was negative.

I think grain free is my next test. Thanks to everyone for their comments. Is wellness core grain free?
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Its gross, I know, but can you describe:
1) quantity of the movement
2) frequency
3) color (and uniform or spotted)
4) odor
5) consistency (water/pudding/mucousy/etc)

One thing that might help is that I have heard that many cats just don't do well if overfed, so it may not even be a food allergy, although switching foods to a less pallet-able one could end up fixing that problem too.

Their intestinal tract is very short in carnivores, and if they have a high hunger drive, then they can try to pack in more food too soon (think of it as a conveyor belt w/ cookies going through an oven), there isn't sufficient time for the nutrients and water to be absorbed into the system, and so it comes out only partially digested.

In large wild-cats in zoos for example, this is why some days no food is provided at all.

The easiest way I believe to determine if that might be the case is if the stool is uniform color brown pudding like and very large in quantity with considerable odor.
 

saitenyo

TCS Member
Adult Cat
Joined
Nov 27, 2010
Messages
135
Purraise
1
I had this very same issue with my younger cat (which was what originally brought me to this forum, actually). We ruled out parasites and any other medical concerns and turned to diet. Grain-free ended up being the solution for me.

Adding grain-free canned food to her diet helped to firm up her stools a bit. I eventually took the step of removing kibble from her diet and saw more improvement then, and now am going the raw route (which so far is the only thing that's produced absolutely perfect stools on a consistent basis) but you may want to at least start with some grain-free canned and see how that goes, if you've ruled out medical concerns.

And yup, Wellness Core is grain-free. It's worth noting that a lot of their adult canned foods are actually grain-free as well, you just have to check labels. I think the grain-free ones are labeled as such on the front, but if not, just check the ingredients. I was feeding my cats a variety of Wellness, Merrick Before Grain, Merrick Gourmet Entrees (only some of these are grain-free, so check ingredients), and Blue Buffalo Wilderness (only their Wilderness line is grain-free).
 
  • Thread Starter Thread Starter
  • #16

jen

TCS Member
Thread starter
Top Cat
Joined
Dec 27, 2001
Messages
8,501
Purraise
3,009
Location
Hudson, OH
Originally Posted by Ducman69

Its gross, I know, but can you describe:
1) quantity of the movement
2) frequency
3) color (and uniform or spotted)
4) odor
5) consistency (water/pudding/mucousy/etc)
1) just a normal sized pile... I am not sure how to measure that lol
2) usually just after he eats
3) uniform, it is almost always the same color
4) not sure how to describe, seems the same as any cat just stronger and lingers longer
5) anywhere from mushy stools to pudding

Also to saitenyo, he eats from a timed feeder that gives out 1/4 cup at 7am and 6 pm. He snacks throughout the day. Meaning he doesn't chow down on that 1/4 cup right away.
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Ah, yeah if its not real big and 1/2 a cup is the feeding suggestion for that food for his age and weight, then at least we can rule out overfeeding.

Although sometimes withholding food for a day I heard can stop the cycle too for an upset tummy.
 

initforlove

TCS Member
Young Cat
Joined
Jan 8, 2011
Messages
44
Purraise
11
Location
Melbourne australia
now that the vet has done some tests you are quite correct that you need to see how you can improve your cats diet

please also remember that a lot of people have allergy to wheat and grains and this may also be an issue for cats

I had a cat that did not have an enzyme to process cat food at all. I changed to human grade food and her problem disappeared completely until i tried giving her cat food and once again her problem started up

hers was that she did poos that stuck to her and so she made huge miles and miles of horrible brown skid marks on my light grey carpet and she had to be washed every day - that is when i came up with the idea of just rinsing the backside and not actually giving a cat a full bath because it took so long to dry her - she was a Persian.

incidentally she was never ever reprimanded for making skid marks on the carpet and she did that for 8 months every single day and every single day she had to be washed. When I put her in for her speying i asked the vet to do an exploratory and that is when he made the diagnosis

in the meantime 3 days before that I started feeding all my cats home made food only and the vet told me that she passed a normal stool on the operating table. that is when i knew what the answer was - never ever give her any cat food as long as she lived. and she lived happily ever after


good luck
 

ducman69

TCS Member
Top Cat
Joined
Sep 18, 2010
Messages
3,232
Purraise
47
Location
Texas
Originally Posted by initforlove

incidentally she was never ever reprimanded for making skid marks on the carpet and she did that for 8 months every single day and every single day she had to be washed.
Don't they hand out medals for that? Definitely went above and beyond the line of dooty.... er duty.
 

sharky

TCS Member
Veteran
Joined
Jan 30, 2005
Messages
27,231
Purraise
38
Jen ,I am not a huge CORE fan mostly due to roughly 70% of the cats I have used it with and personally know it was too rich... Obviously if it is reasonably priced it is worth a shot but its typical side issues are what you have


A 12-24 hour fast may work that is a discuss with vet issue... Mine is not a fan of it for this issue...
 
Top