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My mother has a violent and moody male DSH cat who is about 6-7 years old which I'm hoping you all may be able to lend some advice about!

About four years ago, the cat started displaying aggressive behaviors towards certain humans. He would growl and swipe at them if they were near him or walking past him. In certain cases, he would run up to the person and display these behaviors, even if the person had not acknowledged the cat at all. Around this same time, the cat started peeing on items which were on the floor or tables (think bags on the floor, coats which had dropped off the rack, etc).

Since then, these behaviors have increased dramatically. The cat is confrontational with almost every human who does not live inside the household. He is also peeing/spraying (he was fixed as a kitten) at least once a day--sometimes more. The urine is cleaned up with enzymatic cleaner, but he continues to pee. He has seen a vet multiple times for the peeing issues and they can determine nothing except that it is most likely a behavioral issue. He has been on amitriptyline for several years (vet recently upped the dosage). My mother has also tried those things you plug into the wall which are supposed to calm cats, the calming collars, and the special litter which is supposed to attract cats. None of these have made a difference.

Now, the peeing behavior is gross and bad enough, but he has also been attacking my female cat. She is a nervous cat by nature (does not like loud noises, sudden movements, or loud people), which makes his attacks even worse. After being attacked by him several times (he will run her into a corner, swiping at her), she started growling at him. Now, if he enters an area she is in, or starts walking in her direction, she will let out a low growl. She hasn't been given a chance to stop this behavior yet because he will still periodically attack her and really scare her. This cat also attacks the other cats in the household (there are two other males), but not as bad as my female. One of the males is missing patches of fur all over his body because this cat bites him all the time. The cat is also aggressive to my dog (not a huge dog, ~20 lbs, but still bigger than the cat). He will randomly run at him waving his paw.

My mother complains that my cat is being a drama queen and is overreacting and being annoying...which isn't very productive since I'm not sure how you explain that to a cat. Personally, I would be growling at someone who attacked me too. She has suggested I get rid of my female cat, which I will not be doing.

But anyway! Do any of you have experience dealing with behavioral issues like this? I would be very interested in stopping the peeing/spraying and having this cat leave my female cat alone. It does not appear that any of the scent-oriented calming devices are working with him. Is it possible that the amitriptyline is making him aggressive?

I apologize for the novel. I am very interested in any help/suggestions you may have. (FYI- I am living with my mother because I am a recent college grad and am looking for alternative living situations. I'm not a 12 year old! ) TIA!
post #2 of 7
First I'd like to say hello! Welcome to TCS!

I'm sorry that you have come to find our site under such a stressful situation.

I don't have any advice to offer myself, but we have many knowledgeable members here, that I'm sure will be able to offer you some insight.
post #3 of 7
It sounds like your mother's male cat may be under stress. Did anything change 4 years ago that might have triggered this situation? Another possible stressor is the the number of pets. What size space are they in? I live in a small house with 5 pets and have seen territory be an issue in my own home. With regards to attacking humans, does this cat have his claws or is he declawed? I've seen declawed cats act this way. Also, one of my males does the same thing. He has his claws but he's territorial only to humans, not to other animals.

My gut tells me this is a cat who feels his territory has been infringed upon. The "violence" is to drive intruders out and the urination (and probably scratching) is to establish his territory. Give him more. If you can't expand the rooms out (if you can, will you let me know how ), go up. Give him several cat trees and see if that alleviates some of the tension. If so, his behavior is likely to change.
post #4 of 7
Hey I live with the parental units, nothing wrong with that.

When was the last time the kitty was to the vet for a full exam? I'd start there - just have the vet do a thorough exam & even though he's early in his senior years, I'd ask about bloodwork. Sometimes behavioral issues stem from health problems.

I see he's neutered - that answered my first question.

Have you tried anything like Feliway?

Does he regularly see other cats outdoors that he may be reacting to?

Another thing you may disucss w/ your vet, if nothing else works, is medication. I have a kitty who is "unhinged". Bi-polar most days, at best. She was an Amitrityline (anti depressant) to no avail. We switched to Buspar & she did very well on it - didn't act drugged up or anything, in fact was happier than I'd seen her pretty much ever. There is also Prozac for cats that I think some members have used w/ success.

Bottom line is - there are so many options. It sounds to me like this kitty is potentially defensive for some reason, it's just a matter of figuring out why.
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It sounds like your mother's male cat may be under stress. Did anything change 4 years ago that might have triggered this situation?
Well, my younger sister was still living at home and she has extreme emotional issues. We believe her outbursts are what started this cat's behavior. My mother's other cat (the one with all the patches of fur missing!) get very anxious when people are fighting now and he'll howl if people start to yell. That level of tension in the house definitely had a negative effect on her cats.

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Another possible stressor is the the number of pets. What size space are they in? I live in a small house with 5 pets and have seen territory be an issue in my own home. With regards to attacking humans, does this cat have his claws or is he declawed? I've seen declawed cats act this way. Also, one of my males does the same thing. He has his claws but he's territorial only to humans, not to other animals.
Well, we live in a pretty large house, but the animals do tend to hang out in the same common areas. The cat has his claws.

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My gut tells me this is a cat who feels his territory has been infringed upon. The "violence" is to drive intruders out and the urination (and probably scratching) is to establish his territory. Give him more. If you can't expand the rooms out (if you can, will you let me know how ), go up. Give him several cat trees and see if that alleviates some of the tension. If so, his behavior is likely to change.
I will look into this! Will cat trees provide a different sort of opportunity than jumping on counters and such? Our animals are allowed on the furniture, so they're frequently perched on top of chairs and such. I didn't know if cat trees provide a different sort of environment for cats though

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When was the last time the kitty was to the vet for a full exam? I'd start there - just have the vet do a thorough exam & even though he's early in his senior years, I'd ask about bloodwork. Sometimes behavioral issues stem from health problems.

I see he's neutered - that answered my first question.

Have you tried anything like Feliway?

Does he regularly see other cats outdoors that he may be reacting to?
He was last in for a full exam in September. He did not have blood work then, but he has in the past and they did not find issues, though we're certainly open to having him checked out again. We have tried the plug-in Feliway. We didn't notice a difference until they ran out! So the Feliway doesn't solve the problem completely, but it does seem to help a little.

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Another thing you may disucss w/ your vet, if nothing else works, is medication. I have a kitty who is "unhinged". Bi-polar most days, at best. She was an Amitrityline (anti depressant) to no avail. We switched to Buspar & she did very well on it - didn't act drugged up or anything, in fact was happier than I'd seen her pretty much ever. There is also Prozac for cats that I think some members have used w/ success.

Bottom line is - there are so many options. It sounds to me like this kitty is potentially defensive for some reason, it's just a matter of figuring out why.
Yeah, he's currently on Amitriptyline, but it doesn't seem to be doing very well for him (he's been on it a few years now). My mother asked her vet if there were other options and the vet said no. So THANK YOU for that alternate suggestion! My mother is excited to inquire about this with the vet office.

Thank you so much for your replies (and for the kind welcome, Miss Mew!). My mother and I will definitely look into these suggestions. Hopefully we can make this kitty totally happy again
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I will look into this! Will cat trees provide a different sort of opportunity than jumping on counters and such? Our animals are allowed on the furniture, so they're frequently perched on top of chairs and such. I didn't know if cat trees provide a different sort of environment for cats though
Yes, they like to get in a small space up high where no one else (other pets, often) can get to them. It can give them a sense of security and a place that's all their own.
post #7 of 7
My vet had no clue about Prozac & still won't Rx it, simply because he isn't familiar with it. I've known many cats to be on Amitriptyline to no avail..... Those three are the only ones I'm even marginally familiar with (and I have no firsthand experience with Prozac).

But I can say Buspar probably gave my Ophelia Rose some quality of life. She can now handle life on a daily basis w/o being medicated. She can tolerate the mere existence of other cats, whereas before if she even saw another cat she went into full on attack/kill mode. She maimed several people, cats, & dogs!
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