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Cats + New Baby + Huge Family Dinner + Sister's Shih Tzu = Recipe For Disaster!

post #1 of 15
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My mom and I are the owners of two very affectionate cats, a male (who will be 9 in March), and a 5 year old female. I'll preface my post by saying that they are both quite spoiled and doted upon. I will admit this. Also, sorry for this long post, but there are a number of things going on here!

My sister (who does not live with us) has a shih tzu who has not gotten along with either of the cats since she was a puppy. In spite of this, my sister continues to bring the dog with her when she visits, even though she can easily leave the dog with my father, who lives 5 minutes from our home. The cats try to avoid the dog as much as possible when she is visiting, but the dog continues to pursue them, in hopes that they will want to play with her (the dog is several years old).

My sister had a baby boy in October, and is now visiting more than ever. As expected, the cats are tense and anxious when the baby cries and squeals. The female tried to swat at the baby once when my grandmother (aka her best friend) was holding him for the first time, but has not since posed any threat. She will meow (not growl or hiss) if you're holding the baby near her, but neither of the cats actively seek him out. On top of what is already an uncomfortable situation for the cats, my sister will bring her dog along with the baby.

My cats (especially the male) will only become defensive when the dog is around. My sister has brought the baby without the dog maybe once or twice, and the boy cat was fine around the baby, then (the girl is still pretty territorial). I will be holding the baby, and the male acknowledges this and is calm. I was watching the baby as he was sleeping on my mom's bed, and the cat came to investigate. When he tried to jump on the bed, I calmly but firmly said, "no", and he kept his distance. He sniffed at the baby's feet, didn't growl or meow or hiss, and then left.

Yesterday evening, we were celebrating Christmas (we're Ukrainian), and had a number of people over. My sister came with the baby and dog, in spite of my mother's insistence that my sister leave the dog with my dad, because she knew that the dog would be another source of anxiety for the cats (they're very friendly, but can be overwhelmed by large groups, plus the baby). The dog also has a bad habit of pooping in our house, even if she is let outside.

My sister went upstairs where the boy cat was sleeping on my mom's bed to change the baby, and the dog ran after her, not realizing the cat was there, and jumped on the bed, pretty much in the cat's face. He got spooked and leapt at the dog, and my sister tried to intervene. Cat redirected its aggression on her (as tends to happen), and did a number on her legs and arms.

The cat's very affectionate with her when the dog is not visiting, but in spite of this, my sister is convinced that he is a "killer", and is after both her and the baby (even though the cat's beef was with the dog), and is threatening to have him taken to the vet's to be put down. She was visiting today briefly, (sans dog), and while the cat tried to be friendly with her, she kicked him whenever he came close to her. Nonetheless, not a since hiss or growl from him.

Is there anything I can do? Because the cat is only aggressive when the dog is around, both my mother and I think that the best idea is not to bring the dog when she is visiting with the baby, especially when there are people around, and we can't afford to monitor the animals to make sure that they're not fighting.

Sorry for such a long post! I'm just really worried that the baby may one day be caught in between a cat/dog scuffle.
post #2 of 15
I'd tell her not to bring the dog over anymore. That seems like the best and easiest solution.
post #3 of 15
Yes there is something you can do - when the dog comes in the house, have a crate for the dog to sit in for the time its there - and do NOT let it out unless someone is walking it outside for potty. If your sister objects to it - tough - she either keeps the dog in the crate, or the dog sits in the car by itself.

I would NEVER allow any dog to come in my house to harass my cats and cause them stress. We babysit our friend's Cocker (as they babysit our Lab) - when the Cocker is in the house for a few days - she is crated at night and the cats allowed to roam free in the house. During the day the cats are put upstairs for awhile and it works out ok.

The Cocker likes chasing cats and I don't want her in the litter pan either (our Lab is trained to stay out of the litter pan and she is protective with the cats too).
post #4 of 15
I agree with the others, the dog is the problem. Tell your sister the day after she puts your cat down, her dog gets put down too. She doesn't livethere, so she should respect the wishes of the people who do live there and either leave the dog at your father's, or keep the dog shut in one room of your mother's house. And don't let your sister try to talk you into shutting the cats off in one room. It's not even fair to close the cats in a room with the dog there, it's their territory and they shouldn't have to feel threatened in it, or be corralled out of it.

It sounds like your sister gets her way more often than not, but there needs to be a set rule that the dog is not allowed in your mother's house. I don't let my best friend bring his dog over because the dog chased my cats the one time he was allowed in.
post #5 of 15
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I agree with the others, the dog is the problem. Tell your sister the day after she puts your cat down, her dog gets put down too. She doesn't livethere, so she should respect the wishes of the people who do live there and either leave the dog at your father's, or keep the dog shut in one room of your mother's house. And don't let your sister try to talk you into shutting the cats off in one room. It's not even fair to close the cats in a room with the dog there, it's their territory and they shouldn't have to feel threatened in it, or be corralled out of it.

It sounds like your sister gets her way more often than not, but there needs to be a set rule that the dog is not allowed in your mother's house. I don't let my best friend bring his dog over because the dog chased my cats the one time he was allowed in.
She always was the one to get her way. Heaven and earth have to be moved to accommodate her wishes. She's never been firm with the dog. If the dog gets into a scuffle with another dog, then it's always the other dog's fault, and her little one is the poor victim, who just wants to be friends with everyone in the world.

When the dog poops in our house, she always coddles her and tells her that the "awful cats" are just making her tense, and that it's not her fault. I've never seen her scold her dog in the years she's had her. I've been on walks with her dog, and she will happily, constantly try to approach dogs who are loudly growling and yapping at her and want nothing to do with her. And my sister is the one who reassures her dog that the other person's dog is "bad" and "mean".

Her boyfriend doesn't like the dog, but puts up with it because it's hers. He tells her that the dog's got to learn the hard way not to go after the cats.

I just don't think it's fair for my sister to blame the cat for something that is entirely preventable. As much as my mom loves the cats, I know that if, heaven forbid, the baby ever got between the cat and dog, that she'd drop everything to put the cat down. But she just won't grow a pair and tell my sister "no".
post #6 of 15
First I'd like to welcome you to TCS! I'm so sorry that you are having to deal with this stressful situation.

I agree with the others though. It's your home and it's the cats home. Sounds like it's time to get firm with your sister. If she wants to visit, then the dog has to stay home or in a crate where it can't go after your cats.

EDIT:

Just reading your last response. Perhaps you can have the cats in a safe room when the dog and baby are over?. Whenever we have friends over with children I shut our cats in our bedroom (with food, water and litter of course) I'm sure people think it's for their child's protection, but in reality it's for my cats
post #7 of 15
You already asked her not to bring the dog and she continues to do so that in it self is insensitive and rude. Also knowing as she does that the cats and the dog do not make a great combination she continues to bring the dog with the baby which makes me wonder if the dog is more important to her then the saftey of her baby?? She's either very self absorbed or lacking any common sense. In any case it's your house not hers. If she still insists on bringing the dog put the animal in another room or tie it on a lease outside while she visits. If she tries to make you feel bad or bully you about it just remind her nicely that she is the visitor and it's your house and your rules. Ask her how she would like it if you brought the cats over to her house everytime you visited her.
post #8 of 15
YOU have to be the one to just take charge - the dog gets crated or it is outside in the yard/car but do NOT allow the dog to have contact with the cats when she comes over.

She can complain all she wants to - but the bottom line - its YOUR house, YOUR rules. She has NO say in where the dog is put.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by rad65 View Post
I agree with the others, the dog is the problem. .
I disagree. Your sister is the problem as she's disrespected your home and the boundaries you've established. This isn't an animal problem, it's a human problem. You need to have a conversation with her about what's acceptable in your house as uncomfortable as it may be. She's the author of the mayhem. It stops with her.
post #10 of 15
^ I'm sorry, I misrepresented my meaning. I meant the dog is the cats' direct problem, not the overlying issue, which is the sister as you mentioned.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by rad65 View Post
^ I'm sorry, I misrepresented my meaning. I meant the dog is the cats' direct problem, not the overlying issue, which is the sister as you mentioned.
True, the dog is the cat's problem. We'll sort all this out if we keep at it!
post #12 of 15
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I hope this can be sorted out. My mom used to have no problem telling my sister no, but now with the baby, my mom will bend over backwards not to upset her.

My sister is hellbent on having the cat destroyed, now. She insists that the cat wants to kill her and the baby, but when the dog isn't around, the cat is fine with both of them. The cat's aggression has nothing to do with her or her new son. And I fear that her own hostility towards the cat will only aggravate him further, and that he WILL soon become aggressive towards her. She was here at the beginning of the week without the dog, and the cat was rubbing up against her constantly and purring. She just doesn't take any notice.

We're careful not to have the cat very close to the baby in any case, but I take care to make sure to show him that the baby is not taking over. I give all three of them (baby, both cats) equal amounts of attention.
post #13 of 15
I can think of many responses, but none of them are going to be particularly helpful & frankly some aren't TCS appropriate. Perhaps you need to change the locks on the house, keep the doors locked, & not give her a key?

I'd find a copy of a vet bill & tell your sister that your cats are your property (one of the times where in the eyes of the law cats being viewed as property will help). She has no right to demand the cat bed euthanized.

Tell her you'll keep "killer" at bay if she leaves her dog at home. Or tell her she's no longer welcome in the home - period. Is there a reason your mother cannot go to visit your sister in your sister's home?
post #14 of 15
Honestly, if you don't want to do anything else, lock the cats in a bedroom whenever your sister,the dog, and the baby are visiting. Put a big lock on the bedroom door. The poor kitties are clearly stressed by the dog and the baby, and now your sister wants the male KILLED. They need to be kept safe, and closing them in another room will do that with a minimum of family strife.

If you're afraid your sister or another family member will come in when you're gone and kill your cat, change the locks. Whatever you have to do to protect the innocent cats from that craziness.
post #15 of 15
I am sorry and NO I do not nor have I ever had much family .. But I would Tell your Sister that you and the family will come see HER at HER home without the cats... Also I would put in a basic letter to ALL vets in the area about the issue in case she steals your cat to destroy it ... I would also File said letter with animal control and the local police . Of course tell your sister you are going to do this and I will guess she wont come around for a long time

If she has to be allowed in your home then As mentioned lock up the cats and make it hard for her to get near them..

Oh and a separate letter for RULES of Your house in regards to her and her family( dog included ) and make her sign it
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