Is adult cat food ok for kittens?

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Midnight has problems with a UTI. He is on medicine for it. But I saw yesterday a cat food for helping with UTI's. Only it said for adult cats. Is this something I'd still be able to give Midnight to help him? he's 4 months old.
 

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Originally Posted by My4LLMA

Midnight has problems with a UTI. He is on medicine for it. But I saw yesterday a cat food for helping with UTI's. Only it said for adult cats. Is this something I'd still be able to give Midnight to help him? he's 4 months old.
Sharky might have the best information on the topic, but I think that if you feed Midnight a quality kitten food on the side, he'll get his full nutrition...what does your Vet recommend?
 

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It would be better if you could find a UTI food that was all stages, instead of just adult. Midnight is still really young and needs all that nutrition, especially since he won't eat wet food, until he's done growing.
 

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Since Midnight has crystals, I would recommend finding out from the vet what type of crystal he has, and the specific diet for that type of crystals... Crystals and UTI are different things...
 

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Please consult with your Vet on this , it is a unusual and possibly dangerous situation...

FYI to date NO Uti certified food has been an all stage
 
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The only advice the vet gave me, was to give Midnight can food at least twice a day. She said any kitten can food would do. I'm trying to do that. Midnight is a tough 1 to deal with. He will not eat the can food. He eats about 3 bites of it each time. This is the same kitten can food he ate when he first came here! He liked it then. If I mix it with dry food he'll eat about half of it. I don't have this problem at all with Luna. She eats everything and anything in sight.
 

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IMHO find a New Vet... that is a sign of a Bad one... especially with the Er vet thinking crystals

try kitty crack ...lol... fancy feast kitten ...
 
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We can't get Midnight to take his medicine, so we'll be calling the vet tomorrow, hopefully they'll give it to him for us. Then while we're up there I can speak to his regular vet, and bring up all my questions to her.
 

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Originally Posted by My4LLMA

We can't get Midnight to take his medicine, so we'll be calling the vet tomorrow, hopefully they'll give it to him for us. Then while we're up there I can speak to his regular vet, and bring up all my questions to her.
 

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Originally Posted by JonyLeaber

Remember your Kitten is still classed as a Kitten until 18 months!! And therefore should be kept on its kitten diet until then. A misconception between people is that the Adult food contains more nutrients and minerals for your Cat than Kitten food. This is wrong!!
Kitten food contains more calcium, fatty acids, amino acids, calories etc etc than regular adult food becuase your Kitten is growing constantly and therefore there is a high demand for allot of energy for your kitten. This is also why you are told to feed your Cat kitten food when she is pregnant regardless of age, so that her body can meet the demands of the energy being used up.
When after 18 months you do change your kitten diet to adult food, do it over a period of no more than 3/4days just adding 1 quarter of adult food and 3 quarters of kitten for first day, 1 and half quarter adult and 2.5 quarters adult..etc etc and build it up like that...this is a suitable timescale
Please try to post generally accepted and proven things... &=75% of this post is wrong info
 

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Originally Posted by JonyLeaber

Remember your Kitten is still classed as a Kitten until 18 months!! And therefore should be kept on its kitten diet until then. A misconception between people is that the Adult food contains more nutrients and minerals for your Cat than Kitten food. This is wrong!!
Kitten food contains more calcium, fatty acids, amino acids, calories etc etc than regular adult food becuase your Kitten is growing constantly and therefore there is a high demand for allot of energy for your kitten. This is also why you are told to feed your Cat kitten food when she is pregnant regardless of age, so that her body can meet the demands of the energy being used up.
When after 18 months you do change your kitten diet to adult food, do it over a period of no more than 3/4days just adding 1 quarter of adult food and 3 quarters of kitten for first day, 1 and half quarter adult and 2.5 quarters adult..etc etc and build it up like that...this is a suitable timescale
Kittens may be classed that way until 18 months, but you can start feeding them adult food as young as 6 months. usually 9 - 12 months is more accepted, but 18 months is by far the longest I have ever heard. I've read all your posts in the nutrition section, do you actually know about any of the topics you're posting on? Most of your information and advice is wrong.
 

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I think we've been spam-botted. So far this is the only reply that's even slightly on-topic, and all replies appear to have been copies and pasted from somewhere else. So probably just a spam-bot.

On the original topic--I wouldn't use a urinary formula food for a kitten. If it is a UTI, it's probably just due to a bit of bacteria and not a chronic thing. If he really does have urinary crystals at this age (veryvery rare), it's gonna be a long road ahead keeping this problem managed his entire life.
 
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Originally Posted by Lucky Luke

what does your Vet recommend?
She said the Iam's proactive kitten can food was ok. There's really not a big selection of can kitten foods. There is for adult cat food.
 
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Originally Posted by Willowy

I think we've been spam-botted. So far this is the only reply that's even slightly on-topic, and all replies appear to have been copies and pasted from somewhere else. So probably just a spam-bot.

On the original topic--I wouldn't use a urinary formula food for a kitten. If it is a UTI, it's probably just due to a bit of bacteria and not a chronic thing. If he really does have urinary crystals at this age (veryvery rare), it's gonna be a long road ahead keeping this problem managed his entire life.
Midnight will be having another urine analysis hopefully whatever is going on with him will be cleared up. The vet thought this was because of an infection, he did have a cold. He was given a shot of an antibiotic that cleared that up right by the next day.
 

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Originally Posted by JonyLeaber

Remember your Kitten is still classed as a Kitten until 18 months!! And therefore should be kept on its kitten diet until then. A misconception between people is that the Adult food contains more nutrients and minerals for your Cat than Kitten food. This is wrong!!

Kitten food contains more calcium, fatty acids, amino acids, calories etc etc than regular adult food because your Kitten is growing constantly and therefore there is a high demand for allot of energy for your kitten.
That is a generalization, and you will find that many "adult" cat food brands trump other brands "kitten" labeled food.

With Wellness, its obvious that they are simply marketing some of their food as "kitten" just for the sake of filling that niche that buyers are looking for. If they didn't put a kitten label on it, people wouldn't buy it for their kittens, and they'd lose sales for no good reason.

Primary ingredients are 100% identical, as is protein, fat, and caloric density and more. The only obvious difference in fact is that the adult formula has a tiny bit MORE vitamin E, not less.
Originally Posted by Wellness Adult Complete Care

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Rice, Ground Barley, Ground Rice, Chicken Fat(preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Natural Chicken Flavor, Salmon Meal, Chicken Liver, Cranberries, Tomato Pomace, Olive Oil, Chicory Root Extract, Cranberry Extract Powder, Cranberry Fiber, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement), Choline Chloride, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine, Hydrochloride, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Taurine, Rosemary Extract.
Originally Posted by Wellness Kitten Health

Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Rice, Ground Barley, Ground Rice, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols, a natural source of Vitamin E), Natural Chicken Flavor, Salmon Meal (Source ofDHA, Docosahexaenoic Acid), Chicken Liver. Cranberries, Tomato Pomace, Olive Oil, Chicory Root Extract, Cranberry Extract Powder, Cranberry Fiber, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement), Choline Chloride, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Kelp, Chondroitin Sulfate, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Lactobacillus Plantarum, Enterococcus Faecium, Lactobacillus Case, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Taurine, Rosemary Extract.
Here's guaranteed nutrition info compared Adult VS Kitten formula:
Crude Protein
36.0% vs 36.0%

Crude Fat \t
18.0% vs 18.0%

Crude Fiber
3.0% vs 3.0%

Moisture
11.0% vs 11.0%

Ash
6.5% vs 6.5%

Magnesium
0.098% vs 0.098%

Vitamin E
300 IU/kg vs 250 IU/kg

Taurine
0.2% vs 0.2%

Omega 6 (Linoleic Acid)
3.5% vs 3.5%

Omega 3 (Linoleic Acid)*
0.45% vs 0.45%

Total Micro-Organisms*
80,000,000 CFU/lb vs 80,000,000 CFU/lb

Caloric density:
3950 kcal/kg vs 3950 kcal/kg

So for Wellness, its obviously just a marketing exercise.
 

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Originally Posted by Willowy

I think we've been spam-botted. So far this is the only reply that's even slightly on-topic, and all replies appear to have been copies and pasted from somewhere else. So probably just a spam-bot.

On the original topic--I wouldn't use a urinary formula food for a kitten. If it is a UTI, it's probably just due to a bit of bacteria and not a chronic thing. If he really does have urinary crystals at this age (veryvery rare), it's gonna be a long road ahead keeping this problem managed his entire life.
The vet says Midnight has Struvite Crystals. So yes, this will be a long road, for the rest of his life... IMHO this should be dealt with his vet, since this is a kitten... and yes, this is a veeeeery rare case. Some say Urinary diets are not safe for kittens, so I guess only the vet can find a solution for this case, and advise how soon he can go into the urinary diet... Not sure if he will be able to go in at 6 months like the other diets?
 
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