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post #31 of 53
12/11/10 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by mrsgreenjeens View Post
See...what do I know? (and I misread and thought you said "capfull" versus capsule - BIG difference!!)

Well, anyway, hope the little guy gets better soon. Nothing worse than diarrhea day in and day out.
Oh yeah - one capsule a day - and he gets it in two meals, 1/2 in the am, and 1/2 in the pm...
I triple checked with his vet yesterday to make absolutely sure, and he told me to continue as it is excellent for IBD kitties... and I really really trust this vet - I feel I am finally in good hands. Hopefully soon we will have some answers... I can't wait for the blood test results to come back...
What comforts me is that he is doing wonderful otherwise, he was just playing chase with Lucky running around like a mad man up and down the shelves and the cat tree as though his 17lbs were nothing!
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post #32 of 53
12/11/10 at 12:03pm
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But isn't Psyllium Husk usually used for constipation? And an entire capful? Gosh, that seems like alot, if it's a "human" bottle especially. (sorry, I may have missed something earlier on in the thread.
I thought so too - but, here's a link that has some information:
http://www.herbwisdom.com/herb-psyllium-husk.html

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Psyllium has also been used for irritable bowel syndrome (a stress-related disorder with alternating bouts of diarrhea and constipation). Because it will produce easy bowel movements with a loose stool, Psyllium is used by patients with anal fissures (cracks in the skin near the anus) and hemorrhoids and is often recommended following anal or rectal surgery, during pregnancy and as a secondary treatment in certain types of diarrhea.

Psyllium soaks up a significant amount of water in the digestive tract, thereby making stool firmer and, under these circumstances, slower to pass. Psyllium also has the additional advantages over other sources of fiber of reducing flatulence and bloating. It may be recommended by a physician to help soften stool and reduce the pain associated with hemorrhoids.
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post #33 of 53
12/13/10 at 4:02pm
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Ok, so the results are finally back, and they are great!
soooo....
IBS is either non existing or too mild that he doesn't require steroids...
B-12 levels normal;
no pancreatitis;
Folates are high, which indicates the culprit: Clavamox killed the microflora in his gut, caused an overgrowth of bad bacteria and inflammation from which he is having a hard time recouping.
Treatment: metronidazole to reduce inflamation, fiber to build bulk and slow down his intestinal tract, and probiotics to rebuild his intestinal flora.

NOTHING SERIOUS
THANK GOD!!!

no giardia, no T.Foetus, no parasites...
clavamox
sooooooo relieved!!!!!!
Now it is just a matter of time and patience, but my boy is going to be just fine YEY!!!!!!!
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post #34 of 53
12/13/10 at 4:27pm

Healing for Bugsy
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post #35 of 53
12/13/10 at 4:57pm
Oh! Carolina!!! What a relief!!

I'm so happy for the great news!!

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post #36 of 53
12/13/10 at 5:02pm
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Oh! Carolina!!! What a relief!!

I'm so happy for the great news!!
OMG, I swear, I was shaking for about 1/2 hour after I hung up the phone with the vet... I am SO relieved!
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post #37 of 53
12/13/10 at 5:05pm
That's just GREAT!!!



Robin
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post #38 of 53
12/13/10 at 5:37pm
Yay for gorgeous Bugsy!!!
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post #39 of 53
12/13/10 at 6:01pm
I am so happy for Bugsy
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post #40 of 53
12/13/10 at 7:12pm
That is great news, and I bet now that you'll be more relaxed, he'll pick up on that and get better even faster!

I'm really interested in how the blood test was able to check on IBS...I suspect my Dante may have mild IBS but would love to be able to get a good diagnosis without more invasive testing. Right now, my vets said we're not nearly at the stage for invasive testing, but I don't know if they're aware of the testing you did. Thank goodness you found that for your guy.
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post #41 of 53
12/13/10 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
Ok, so the results are finally back, and they are great!
soooo....
IBS is either non existing or too mild that he doesn't require steroids...
B-12 levels normal;
no pancreatitis;
Folates are high, which indicates the culprit: Clavamox killed the microflora in his gut, caused an overgrowth of bad bacteria and inflammation from which he is having a hard time recouping.
Treatment: metronidazole to reduce inflamation, fiber to build bulk and slow down his intestinal tract, and probiotics to rebuild his intestinal flora.

NOTHING SERIOUS
THANK GOD!!!

no giardia, no T.Foetus, no parasites...
clavamox
sooooooo relieved!!!!!!
Now it is just a matter of time and patience, but my boy is going to be just fine YEY!!!!!!!
OMG I'm so happy for Bugsy and for you!
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post #42 of 53
12/14/10 at 11:07am
What a relief! Is Fortiflora a probiotic? Or does he like yogurt? Isn't that a natural probiotic? Just curious as to what you will be giving him to build up his intestinal flora.
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post #43 of 53
12/14/10 at 11:22am
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What a relief! Is Fortiflora a probiotic? Or does he like yogurt? Isn't that a natural probiotic? Just curious as to what you will be giving him to build up his intestinal flora.
Yogurt, fortiflora are probiotics, but he is on a much stronger one called Proviable-DC. If I am not mistaken the Fortiflora dose, is 10million CFU (bene-bac is 20 million, probios 10 million, human acidophillus 100 million). Proviable is 5 Billion CFU... In addition Proviable has probiotics as well, helping with the effects of the probiotics...
This was prescribed by his vet, I did not know about it before
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post #44 of 53
12/14/10 at 11:42am
That's fantastic news!
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post #45 of 53
12/20/10 at 10:21am
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Unfortunately Metronidazole had no effect this time... In a conversation with his vet, we are moving into the next step... Prednizolone for 5 days then every other day for 10 days - depending on the results we go from there. Please continue to send vibes for my boy, I don't want him to be on pred for life
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post #46 of 53
12/20/10 at 10:23am
Oh phooey! I was hoping to see a good report.

Bugsy
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post #47 of 53
12/20/10 at 11:17am
that something works, and soon!
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post #48 of 53
12/20/10 at 11:39am
that you and your vet find something that works well with minimal side effects - GI issues are just so challenging to resolve.
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post #49 of 53
12/20/10 at 11:44am
More for Bugsy!
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post #50 of 53
12/21/10 at 6:46am
Carolina, sending that you can find something for Bugsy.
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post #51 of 53
12/21/10 at 10:00am
If it is due to ab's affecting the flora in his gut, how come the vet is thinking of going straight to steroids rather than contine pro and pre biotics to help soothe the inflammation, as he is otherwise fine in himself? I would have personally asked for one long acting steroid shot and seeing how he did on that, as it is a shorter course of steroids than the regime he is now on. I hope they do the trick and he can come off them as soon as this course is finished.
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post #52 of 53
12/21/10 at 10:25am
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If it is due to ab's affecting the flora in his gut, how come the vet is thinking of going straight to steroids rather than contine pro and pre biotics to help soothe the inflammation, as he is otherwise fine in himself? I would have personally asked for one long acting steroid shot and seeing how he did on that, as it is a shorter course of steroids than the regime he is now on. I hope they do the trick and he can come off them as soon as this course is finished.
The pre and probiotics will rebuild the flora, but will take time. The inflammation needs to be taken care off, as it can turn into pancreatitis or something even worst. Yes, he is doing good otherwise, but for how long, really? 70 days of diarrhea is simply not healthy. The vet is not going straight to steroids, he has tried 3 course of antibiotics that have anti-inflammatory effects on the gut with no effect. He is also on a very strong probiotics. This is the next step, not the first step. While a long acting steroid shot works well for things like stomatitis, it does not work as well for intestinal tract inflammation - this has already been discussed. Bugsy has had also horrendous side effects from Depo-Medrol, and he can not take it again. His blood tests indicate that a low dose steroid should suffice. Also, if he presents any side effect, it can be pulled, contrary to a long acting injection.
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post #53 of 53
12/21/10 at 12:03pm
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Bugsy is at the vet right now, he is not doing too good... See new thread here
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