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What to do about WikiLeaks?

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The news is all about WikiLeaks this week. My husband theorizes that Julian Assange (the owner/creator) is such a narcissist that he couldn't stand all the news coverage being about Korea so he put out this big leak.

Contrary to the prior security memos that were put up that dealt solely with Iraq & Afghanistan, it looks like this one actually contains international information that the public didn't already know. Or at least we didn't know for sure, even if most people strongly suspected (i.e. China is getting sick of North Korea acting like a spoiled child).

The guy who alledgedly got all of the leaks about Iraq/Afghanistan is already in US custody, Private First Class Bradley Manning a.k.a. bradass87 (or something like that). He was a hacker prior to enlisting and when he found that all of those Security Memos were available to him he burned it onto a DVD (acting like he was listening to music). He then made it all available saying "Information should be free to all" or something like that. Another hacker turned him in. I don't know if all of this is from the same guy or not; they aren't saying.

The person who stole the information should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, IMO. He or she is a theif and guilty of at least Espionage and at most Treason.

But for the website itself it isn't as cut & dried. I've heard two polar opposite viewpoints. Yes, both on Fox and both from hosts of different shows.

Judge Andrew Napolitano, host of Freedom Watch on the Fox Business Network during a segment with Shepherd Smith, said that although it would feel good to go after the website/Julien Assange it would not be within the law or Constitution to do so. The person who stole the Secret/Classified materials is the only one who has broken the law as the website is a) written, owned and hosted outside of the US, and b) is part of the Press whether we like it or not. As part of the Press releasing these documents falls under the First Amendment since he (Assange) didn't steal the information himself to post on his website.

The other school of thought is that the US should go after the website/Julien Assange for Espionage at the very least. Treason is a crime that can carry the death penalty, which is what they want, but since Assange is Australian by birth and currently residing in Europe they aren't sure how to make it stick. This is supported by people ranging from Bill O'Reilly to Pres. Bill Clinton. Even Hillary has said that she feels that what WikiLeaks is doing illegal activities by publishing the classified documents.

I will say this - the information this time around has sure been interesting!
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I may be way off base, but I just can't shake the feeling that he made a huge deal about releasing this batch of documents just so that he could claim that the sexual misconduct charges against him (from before this release) were simply being "out to get him".

In other words, I think it was entirely self-serving.
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You just might have something there, Mike. The big news yesterday was that Interpol had an arrest warrant for him on rape charges.
So far I haven't read any revelations that were particularly surprising, just embarrassing for the countries involved, especially Arab countries with regard to the Iranian nuclear program. However, didn't everybody assume they wanted it stopped?
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Well, one thing I think that the young lad hasn't considered, is the fact that he has to contend with the laws of every nation mentioned in his "acquired" documents. There are quite a few of them, and some may not be nearly as forgiving as others . He may end up with numerous warrants for his arrest, from countries that have prison systems he really doesn't want to spend any time in.
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I have to agree with both of you on all counts. Whoa...that almost never happens!

If some of these countries bring him up on charges those rape charges in Switzerland are going to look minor in comparison.

I know some of this really doesn't interest everyone since I'm IT I get IT newsletters and was surprised to see WikiLeaks taking some of the headlines there as well:

WikiLeaks Missives Contain Many Tech Secrets

'Hacktivist' Claims Credit for WikiLeaks Attack

Of course a lot of people think that the DDOS attacks on the website has been controlled by US and other world governments. They certainly have the computer power and they've hired so many of the hackers in years past who have gotten into their computers that they definitely have the knowledge!
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Of course a lot of people think that the DDOS attacks on the website has been controlled by US and other world governments. They certainly have the computer power and they've hired so many of the hackers in years past who have gotten into their computers that they definitely have the knowledge!
And don't forget Stuxnet

I think Wikileaks is acting irresponsibly with the information they've gotten a hold of, but I can't definitively say that releasing sensitive government information is wrong. Beginning with the Clinton years, growing much worse with the Bush administration, and continuing with Obama, the government is becoming more and more secretive. There are huge parts of the budget that has no accountability on how or where it is spent (just trust us - we're doing it to protect you). It is too easy for them to cross the line from protecting us to persecuting us. How soon will it be that US citizens will regularly just "disappear" and no one will be able to determine what happened to them?

We already have too many major legislative decisions made behind closed doors with powerful corporations.
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