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Hi, I'm posting because I'm reaching the end of my patience and I need some help. My cat is between 10 and 15 -- he's from a shelter and I've gotten a few different estimates of his age -- and I've had him for about 8 years.

About a year after I adopted him, he started developing chronic constipation and eventually megacolon. The vet said it was quite young to get it. He has had x-rays, and they didn't reveal a cause (old fractures, etc.). He is currently taking cisapride, human stool softeners (ducosate sodium pills -- he stopped tolerating lactulose/enulose, so the vet advised that he take these), and miralax. His disease has progressed over the years so he requires a lot of medication at this point, as well as enemas about once a month when he starts to get backed up. The rest of the time he still has to work hard to poo, but it's soft and he gets it out. He frequently has drips and poopy-butt, though.

The behavioral/emotional problems are these: he is constantly hungry, he meows excessively, and he might be depressed.

1. The hunger issue began before any of his current medications. I feed him twice a day, and he gets hungry again about three hours after his last feeding. This means that he spends the next nine hours following me, sitting on me, staring at me, licking his lips, and begging. It's not affection. You're going to have to trust me on this. The body language is totally different. He also runs back and forth between me and the food bowl, meowing.

2. He meows constantly while begging for food. He will meow over and over again, like a broken record. My upstairs neighbors have complained twice, it's that loud and continuous. I don't like to use aversives, but I caved in and bought a squirt bottle. That only works for a few minutes though, and then he starts up again. His hearing is fine.

3. He is totally apathetic towards the finer things in cat life. He has zero interest in toys (I have many, including da bird and the cat catcher by the same company) and no prey drive. At an old apartment I actually sat and watched him watching a mouse steal food from his bowl once -- he couldn't have cared less. I bought window seats for the kitties, which the other two love, but he doesn't even like to look out the window. I also got a cat tower and tunnels, but he doesn't like them. He doesn't even like boxes.

So... I don't know what to do. I have wondered whether maybe he's in pain, which is making him meow more and ruining his enjoyment of life. I talked to my vet about pain management, but he said that while the megacolon is controlled -- meaning that he's not backed up -- he shouldn't be in pain. Other indicators of pain, like hiding under the bed or going to the bathroom in inappropriate places, aren't there.

I feel evil even writing this, but the other day I asked myself whether I still loved him. I'm afraid the answer might be no. He seems like such a hollow shell of a cat. I know that I'm not thinking clearly, and that my ability to feel affection or sympathy has been impaired by the poop everywhere and the irritating behavior, but knowing that doesn't change anything. I have thought about getting him a subtotal colectomy, which might help his megacolon, but I have concerns. Not only is it very expensive, but the vet who would perform the operation told me that it is often unsuccessful. Which can mean three things: death, permanent incontinence, or continued megacolon. And I don't know how much the megacolon is contributing to the behaviors. Maybe not at all! In which case, nothing would change.

The horrible, dark thought that drove me to this forum was that putting him down might be a relief.

Thanks to anyone who's read this whole thing, and I will greatly appreciate any advice or support that you have to offer.

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Talk to your vet. With everything he's on maybe there's some issues with nutrient absorption. You may have to add some sort of supplement if this is a problem or try a higher calorie food - but again, only with your vet's guidance.

It's possible, and actually very likely, that he has some GI discomfort that makes him think he needs to eat. With my own GI issues I can go from feeling like my stomach is grumbly wanting food to feeling like it's just tied itself in a dozen knots.

I'm not sure if you could scatter/hide pieces of dry food or treats around the house for him to hunt - not knowing what he eats and is allowed to have. If he is allowed to have dry food and/or certain treats, you could try it. They also make treat bowls and toys that make it harder for a cat to pull the treats out.

And yes, I know the food begging behavior. Oh, they'll act like they want your attention but in reality they're just hanging out nearby or on you to make sure you go feed them. The moment you slightly move they're in the other room sitting in from of their food dish.
 
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I hadn't thought of nutrient absorption problems. I will definitely bring this up with the vet. He is on goodish food, although he doesn't get the variety that I'd like. With the other two kittles I rotate through all quality foods -- EVO, B.B. wilderness, orijen, horizon legacy grain free, wellness core, nature's variety instinct, etc. -- but since he has to eat canned food, which he dislikes, I have to stick to the few that he will eat. Which comes down to wellness chicken and lobster and a couple others. I will ask the vet about nutrient absorption. I mentioned to him in the past that Thomas is hungry constantly, but I think I downplayed it because it seemed like a trivial thing to complain about compared to his physical problems; but you're right that they could be connected. And it really isn't a trivial problem.

For enrichment exercises, I've tried a couple. I have the slimcat food ball, which he finds totally mind-bogglingly difficult and unfathomable (he's not the brightest bulb) and I have a homemade box with holes that I put food in (it looks like this, but cardboard) which he will spend at most thirty seconds with before giving up. He tries to stick his much-too-large head into the holes, resulting in him pushing it around the room by the face. Amusing, but unproductive.
I can't put food around loose because my building has had ants in the past, so I need to minimize crumbs. There is a massive colony outside. Maybe if I could find a food enrichment exercise that's super easy...
 
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Here is a picture of him doing the one thing he does seem to enjoy, albeit not for long. He always wants to go back inside after five minutes.
 

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When was his last blood work? I agree that nutrient absorption may be an issue, but he could be developing hyperthyroid disease.

Ducosate sodium can decrease levels of magnesium and potassium in the blood. It can also cause cramping and gas pain, so he may be in some discomfort. I would ask your vet about adding pepcid a/c to his daily regimen.

Cisapride should be given about 15 minutes before food, and then a small meal offered.

Offering smaller canned meals more often can help with his need to eat more frequently. It's also better for his digestion and megacolon.

I had a little girlie with megacolon, my Ootay
By the time she was 17 she was on the maximum doses for her size of cisapride, she took it three times a day. She also took 1/4 teaspoon of pure psyllium once a day, and mineral oil twice a day, she was maxed out on the mineral oil dose too.

She also took pepcid ac which gave her some tummy relief gas and cramp discomfort.

I know how exhausting and frustrating it is to deal with this disease. The worry is constant. The body has to eliminate to live, and it's heart breaking when a beloved kitty can't poop. Even with all her medicines my Ootay had trouble pooping, and I finally had to learn how to give enemas at home. (disclaimer: I do not recommend anyone give enemas to your cat unless you have been trained by your vet to do it, and have been prescribed enemas that are specifically for your cat)

He is a beautiful Red Boy. Only you (and your vet) can decide if his quality of life is still good. Talk to him. If he's had enough, he will let you know.
 

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He has had x-rays, and they didn't reveal a cause (old fractures, etc.).
Did the xrays confirm he had Megacolon?

He is currently taking cisapride, human stool softeners (ducosate sodium pills -- he stopped tolerating lactulose/enulose, so the vet advised that he take these), and miralax. His disease has progressed over the years so he requires a lot of medication at this point,
How much of each medications are you giving and how many times a day?

as well as enemas about once a month when he starts to get backed up.
What are you feeding him? What I have learned on a feline megacolon group I belong to for my cat that high fibre diets can work against some megacolon cats. I know a high fibre diet was not good for my megacolon cat. She would continue to block many times until I put her on a lower fibre diet. The higher fiber diet tends to bulk the stool up making it harder for the cat to push out. Especially since their colon muscles are not working properly as it is.

The rest of the time he still has to work hard to poo, but it's soft and he gets it out. He frequently has drips and poopy-butt, though.
Since he seems to be having a harder time pushing the poop out I need to ask how much of the Cisapride are you giving?

The drippy and poopy butt could be from too much of the stool softners. Have you considered just giving the Miralax with the Cisapride? It also could be he is getting too much Cisapride. From my experience with a poopy butt for my megacolon cat was she was getting too much Cisapride. Once I decreased her Cisapride dose the drippy poopy butt discontinued. One thing about this dreaded disease is it seems you have to play with the Cisapride and Miralax dose every once in a while. My cat could be going along really well on her daily regimen of Cisapride 2.5mg 2x's a day, Miralax 1/4tsp 2x's a day (pooping every 1-2 days) then bang out of nowhere she starts dropping poops around the house or doesn't poop for up to 3 days. When she doesn't pass a stool on the 3rd day I will increase her Miralax dose in the morning and by the evening she will have a poop. It isn't uncommom for megacolon cats to not pass a stool for up to 3 days even longer. But I like to keep it at the longest of 3 days.

1. The hunger issue began before any of his current medications. I feed him twice a day, and he gets hungry again about three hours after his last feeding. This means that he spends the next nine hours following me, sitting on me, staring at me, licking his lips, and begging. It's not affection. You're going to have to trust me on this. The body language is totally different. He also runs back and forth between me and the food bowl, meowing.
To me this does not sound behavioural at all. It sounds to me like the cat is hungry. Can you feed him more times throughout the day? It is not uncommom for a cat to feed up to 12x's a day in the wild. So I really think he may be hungry. How much are you feeding him? Maybe you are not feeding him enough food? Here is a link for you to look over regarding feline nutrition and on this link you will see a guideline on this link for how much your cat should be getting fed a day http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm I figure my cats daily calorie intake (if you want help on this I can help you out) and feed this amount tailored to each individual cat up to 5 meals a day. My IBD cat needs to be fed every 3-4 hours or else he will throw up so I have to feed him every 3-4 hours. I had to purchase a timed feeder with an ice pack to feed him while I am at work.

Could you feed him close to the following schedule: when you wake up in the morning, before you leave for work, when you get home from work and before you go to bed?

2. He meows constantly while begging for food. He will meow over and over again, like a broken record. My upstairs neighbors have complained twice, it's that loud and continuous. I don't like to use aversives, but I caved in and bought a squirt bottle. That only works for a few minutes though, and then he starts up again. His hearing is fine.
I don't think the answer is to squirt him with water. He really sounds hungry. Try feeding him more frequent meals throughout the day to see how he does. Squirting him for being hungry is not fair



3. He is totally apathetic towards the finer things in cat life. He has zero interest in toys (I have many, including da bird and the cat catcher by the same company)
Does he like affection and attention from you? Some extra cuddle time? Maybe he likes human time more then these toys. Does he like rumpled paper, crumpled tin foil, chasing small lids thrown on the floor, playing chase with mommy, paper bags, empty boxes, hide and seek, etc. Does he like catnip or catnip toys? My 14 year old cat gets bored with his toys pretty quick but sure loves mommies attention.


At an old apartment I actually sat and watched him watching a mouse steal food from his bowl once -- he couldn't have cared less.
hehehe....what a sweatheart!!!

The horrible, dark thought that drove me to this forum was that putting him down might be a relief.
from what I have read so far he does not seem so bad off. He just sounds like he needs to be fed more often. From what you have said I do not think he is depressed. He may just be a very inactive cat which is not unheard of for an older cat. Please step back and take a breather. Please come and join me on the Feline Megacolon group on Yahoo for some support http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Megacolon/ also here is another group you can join for some support with feeding your cat and dealing with the meowing http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/WholeCatHealth/

Hang in there!
 

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I forgot to ask what form of the Cisapride are you giving? I know the Miralax is a tasteless odourless powder that can be added into his wet food. What form is the other stool softner? I am thinking that if the Cisapride and the other stool softner have to be syringed or pilled maybe he is tired of being pilled or syringed? This could be making him unhappy?

I know when I was syringing the Cisapride into my cat she wasn't very happy. So I now get the Cisapride compounded into a beef or chicken chew. And I have her thinking she is getting a treat 2x's a day
 

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I had Ootay's
cisapride compounded into flavored tablets too. She still wouldn't eat them, but it was way easier to give pills than liquid, and less expensive, too.
 
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Thank you both for your thoughtful responses. I'll try to address everything.

Originally Posted by otto

When was his last blood work? I agree that nutrient absorption may be an issue, but he could be developing hyperthyroid disease.
Now that I think about it, I think it's been about two years. The last time was when I had to bring him to an emergency vet because he had an obstruction. (That hasn't happened again since, and I've gotten much better at monitoring how full his colon is manually.) This is another thing I will have to talk to my vet about next time.

Ducosate sodium can decrease levels of magnesium and potassium in the blood. It can also cause cramping and gas pain, so he may be in some discomfort. I would ask your vet about adding pepcid a/c to his daily regimen.
I will bring this up with the vet, too. I think I underestimated the discomfort factor.

Cisapride should be given about 15 minutes before food, and then a small meal offered.
I had read that it should be given before food, but I was doing it back-to-back. I will try spacing it out fifteen minutes.

Offering smaller canned meals more often can help with his need to eat more frequently. It's also better for his digestion and megacolon.

I had a little girlie with megacolon, my Ootay
By the time she was 17 she was on the maximum doses for her size of cisapride, she took it three times a day. She also took 1/4 teaspoon of pure psyllium once a day, and mineral oil twice a day, she was maxed out on the mineral oil dose too.
My vet has said not to give mineral oil regularly because he thinks it makes the other medicine less effective. It seems like vets' approaches to megacolon aren't very standardized, and opinion plays a big role. In the past I gave it to him occasionally, mixed in with a little soft food for flavor so he wouldn't breath it in. I haven't done that in a while. I do occasionally give him a glob of petroleum jelly if he shows signs of a hairball, or I'm worried about a blockage.

I used to give psyllium husk mixed in with water and his food, but I stopped because it seemed to make him get backed up more quickly. I know there are two schools of thought on this. Fiber has been historically seen as a cure for constipation, and it works well for milder cases. Some people now believe that bulking agents should be avoided with megacolon because it just increases the amount of volume of the stool. But it does seem to help for some cats. I think this is probably one of those things that's different for different cats.

I know how exhausting and frustrating it is to deal with this disease. The worry is constant. The body has to eliminate to live, and it's heart breaking when a beloved kitty can't poop. Even with all her medicines my Ootay had trouble pooping, and I finally had to learn how to give enemas at home. (disclaimer: I do not recommend anyone give enemas to your cat unless you have been trained by your vet to do it, and have been prescribed enemas that are specifically for your cat)

He is a beautiful Red Boy. Only you (and your vet) can decide if his quality of life is still good. Talk to him. If he's had enough, he will let you know.
It is constant. At this point when it's enema time it's almost a relief, because then I know it'll all come out and he can start fresh. It's still an ordeal, though.
 
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Originally Posted by Denali

Did the xrays confirm he had Megacolon?
Yes. The vet showed me and it was a huge shock. His colon was the size of a child's forearm.

How much of each medications are you giving and how many times a day?
He takes:
- 1ml of Cisapride three times daily, in a 2.5mg/ml flavored suspension (I think -- it might be 5mg/ml, but I'm not sure. It's been a long time since I asked.)
- 1/4 teaspoon of Miralax mixed into his food, once daily
- 1 ducosate sodium 100mg capsule, once daily

I give him the miralax in the morning and the ducosate sodium pill in the evening. I always give all medicine with food (the mid-day cisapride I give with just a small spoonful of food). Do you know whether the ducosate sodium would be best by itself? It doesn't say anything about food on the bottle.

What are you feeding him? What I have learned on a feline megacolon group I belong to for my cat that high fibre diets can work against some megacolon cats. I know a high fibre diet was not good for my megacolon cat. She would continue to block many times until I put her on a lower fibre diet. The higher fiber diet tends to bulk the stool up making it harder for the cat to push out. Especially since their colon muscles are not working properly as it is.
This is exactly what I read. My vet took some convincing, but after I switched to no psyllium and low-residue foods, he improved. Now that he's on wet, which he dislikes, I can't feed him what I'd like to feed him, though. He is mostly getting Wellness (not core). You would think, considering how famished he acts all the time, that he would eat anything. But he's very picky and will lose weight rather than eat many foods.

Since he seems to be having a harder time pushing the poop out I need to ask how much of the Cisapride are you giving?
He gets it out, it's just a slow process. He spends a lot of time in the box, and I have to shut the other kitties in another room so that he can concentrate. It isn't that the poop is too large or hard -- he just has the neuromuscular deficit in his colon that makes pushing it out difficult, even with the added motility from the cisapride.

The drippy and poopy butt could be from too much of the stool softners. Have you considered just giving the Miralax with the Cisapride? It also could be he is getting too much Cisapride. From my experience with a poopy butt for my megacolon cat was she was getting too much Cisapride. Once I decreased her Cisapride dose the drippy poopy butt discontinued. One thing about this dreaded disease is it seems you have to play with the Cisapride and Miralax dose every once in a while. My cat could be going along really well on her daily regimen of Cisapride 2.5mg 2x's a day, Miralax 1/4tsp 2x's a day (pooping every 1-2 days) then bang out of nowhere she starts dropping poops around the house or doesn't poop for up to 3 days. When she doesn't pass a stool on the 3rd day I will increase her Miralax dose in the morning and by the evening she will have a poop. It isn't uncommom for megacolon cats to not pass a stool for up to 3 days even longer. But I like to keep it at the longest of 3 days.
The cisapride is definitely the main cause of the drippy & poopy butt. I have had to tinker with the dose quite a bit, and increases have always caused dripping. Ideally I'd like to give him more, because it works so well, but that would cause a sharp uptick in the leakage issues. Right now, he has only had one really messy day in the last seven, which is pretty good. The stool softeners are an absolute must, unfortunately. Without the ducosate sodium his stool gets much harder -- like rocks! -- and it is too difficult for him to push out. The period between when he stopped enulose/lactulose and I started him on ducosate sodium was really rough.

I think it would be a good idea for me to follow your three day schedule, and try increasing the miralax when he hasn't pooped. I should mark it on my calendar, because memory can be faulty. He usually only poops once every 3-5 days, except right after an enema, but the poop isn't usually too thick or hard -- although there's a lot of it. Maybe I have been letting the periods between poops get too long without taking action.

To me this does not sound behavioural at all. It sounds to me like the cat is hungry. Can you feed him more times throughout the day? It is not uncommom for a cat to feed up to 12x's a day in the wild. So I really think he may be hungry. How much are you feeding him? Maybe you are not feeding him enough food? Here is a link for you to look over regarding feline nutrition and on this link you will see a guideline on this link for how much your cat should be getting fed a day http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm I figure my cats daily calorie intake (if you want help on this I can help you out) and feed this amount tailored to each individual cat up to 5 meals a day. My IBD cat needs to be fed every 3-4 hours or else he will throw up so I have to feed him every 3-4 hours. I had to purchase a timed feeder with an ice pack to feed him while I am at work.
Both of you have suggested feeding him more often, so I'm going to do it. He's definitely getting enough food, in terms of quantity, and when I've thrown up my hands and given him more in the past he's quickly gained weight. I know he's not hungry all the time because he isn't getting enough food (although I need to talk to the vet about nutrients). But smaller portions more often seems like the way to go.

Could you feed him close to the following schedule: when you wake up in the morning, before you leave for work, when you get home from work and before you go to bed?
I have odd work hours, but I try to keep it pretty scheduled. And even if the timing isn't perfect, I can make three meals work.

I don't think the answer is to squirt him with water. He really sounds hungry. Try feeding him more frequent meals throughout the day to see how he does. Squirting him for being hungry is not fair
I know it's not the answer, and I feel like a huge jerk for doing it.
It's not often. But I know it's never right to take out your irritation on a cat, and in a way that they can't really even understand.

Does he like affection and attention from you? Some extra cuddle time? Maybe he likes human time more then these toys. Does he like rumpled paper, crumpled tin foil, chasing small lids thrown on the floor, playing chase with mommy, paper bags, empty boxes, hide and seek, etc. Does he like catnip or catnip toys? My 14 year old cat gets bored with his toys pretty quick but sure loves mommies attention.
He does like affection, although sometimes it seems like he thinks it's just a preamble to getting food. I haven't been giving him enough in recent months (years?) though, because of the feelings of resentment that I've been struggling with. We do have nice moments sometimes, though. Recently he burrowed under the covers a couple times, something he hasn't done in years! He's totally and utterly disinterested in crumpled paper, pens, caps, tin foil, bags, boxes, you name it. He doesn't have a playful bone in his body. He does like catnip, so I have a big catnip session on the floor once a week, and all three get involved. He usually has to go first by himself, because he tweaks out and gets kind of aggressive.

from what I have read so far he does not seem so bad off. He just sounds like he needs to be fed more often. From what you have said I do not think he is depressed. He may just be a very inactive cat which is not unheard of for an older cat. Please step back and take a breather. Please come and join me on the Feline Megacolon group on Yahoo for some support http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Megacolon/ also here is another group you can join for some support with feeding your cat and dealing with the meowing http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/WholeCatHealth/

Hang in there!
Thank you! I will check those groups out.
 
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Originally Posted by Denali

I forgot to ask what form of the Cisapride are you giving? I know the Miralax is a tasteless odourless powder that can be added into his wet food. What form is the other stool softner? I am thinking that if the Cisapride and the other stool softner have to be syringed or pilled maybe he is tired of being pilled or syringed? This could be making him unhappy?

I know when I was syringing the Cisapride into my cat she wasn't very happy. So I now get the Cisapride compounded into a beef or chicken chew. And I have her thinking she is getting a treat 2x's a day
Yes, it's in flavored stuff. He doesn't like it -- like most things, including treats -- but he swallows it without a fuss. Which is worlds better than the enulose/lactulose! He loathed it with a passion and would struggle and then drool. At the end he would just vomit it up.

The ducosate sodium is in a small capsule, which is a piece of cake with him.

Originally Posted by otto

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cisapride compounded into flavored tablets too. She still wouldn't eat them, but it was way easier to give pills than liquid, and less expensive, too.
Oh my gosh, I didn't know it could come in flavored pills. Do you get it from an online pharmacy? If so, do you have the name? That would be so wonderful. Even more so if it's less expensive.
 
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Sorry for the fourth post in a row, but I just wanted to thank all three of you again for your replies. I'm very glad I posted here, and hopefully Thomas will be, too.
I'm going to feed him three times a day and I have a list of things to talk to my vet about.

It's also just good to talk to someone about it. Megacolon doesn't exactly make for polite conversation, so it's been kind of a lonely struggle. This has lifted my spirits.
 

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Originally Posted by otto

I had Ootay's
cisapride compounded into flavored tablets too. She still wouldn't eat them, but it was way easier to give pills than liquid, and less expensive, too.
The beef ones I give her almost look like a round piece of pepperoni. When I smell them it always reminds me of pepperoni
I want to eat them
She won't eat them either unless I smear them with canned food or a liquid she likes. She's gotten to the point where I will say "Treat treat" and go into the kitchen and she gets all excited and follows me for her "treat" lol! Thank goodness it is easy peasy for us
 

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I agree with you both that low fiber is better for megacolon kitties. It was too much fiber that caused her megacolon in the first place, the vet I was using kept having me increase the psyllium until poor little Ootay's poops were bigger than she was.

I finally switched vets and that was when Ootay got diagnosed with her megacolon (via x ray) and the treatment was changed to cisapride, and lactulose and the tiny amount of psyllium.

I hated the lactulose and she did too. She had CRF, and the lactulose caused her blood calcium to rise to very dangerous levels so we switched to mineral oil. My vet did not know about Miralax at that time.

I did not syringe the mineral oil, it was given in a very small amount of food on an empty stomach at least an hour before a meal or any other medication. It was a real balancing act with Ootay with all her meds. She was fed 9 or 10 times a day, feedings arranged around meds. I arranged my entire life around her care.

The cisapride had to be increased over time. She started on 2.5 mg once a day. When she left me she was on 8.75 mg a day which was the maximum dose for a cat of her size. She was only 4 pounds when I let her go, her healthy weight was only 6.5 pounds, she was a tiny cat. A "mini cat" my vet always called her.

The psyllium was dropped to 1/8th teaspoon a very tiny amount and it did seem to help, at that dose.

Yes I used a compounding pharmacy that I found by searching on line. I googled compounding pharmacies and used the one I found that was relatively local. The pharmacy was a three hour drive from my house and I actually drove out there and met the pharmacist. But he sold his business and is working as a pharmacist for the company he sold to, and I don't know if he is doing much compounding work any more.

I have heard roadrunner compounding pharmacy is good, but I have never used them.

Please keep us posted on your red boy. What's his name?
 

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Hello Everyone,

I had a cat for the last ten years of his life had Mega Colon. The way it was manged with success in this particular case was adding water to his food. He was fed 3oz of WET food in a sitting. Then I added 2oz of water to the WET cat food and "mixed it around".

This particular cat liked this system and lapped up the water that was in his food and then ate the wet cat food. Sometimes he did not like that particular can of food that was mixed with the water so I would just add more water to it. Then he would lap up that water and then eat the food
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Now you might all think this sounds a bit insane but the reason it worked is the water made his bowel movements soft and easier to pass. Also the added moisture "bulked up" the stool.

Hope that helps and if you need a better explanation please let me know
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Originally Posted by Cat Person

Hello Everyone,

I had a cat for the last ten years of his life had Mega Colon. The way it was manged with success in this particular case was adding water to his food. He was fed 3oz of WET food in a sitting. Then I added 2oz of water to the WET cat food and "mixed it around".

This particular cat liked this system and lapped up the water that was in his food and then ate the wet cat food. Sometimes he did not like that particular can of food that was mixed with the water so I would just add more water to it. Then he would lap up that water and then eat the food
.

Now you might all think this sounds a bit insane but the reason it worked is the water made his bowel movements soft and easier to pass. Also the added moisture "bulked up" the stool.

Hope that helps and if you need a better explanation please let me know
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That's not insane at all, it's terrific advice! (as long as kitty will tolerate it, or course)

I add water to every meal I put in front of my cats.
Some tolerate more than others. Jennie, for instance, who already has constipation issues, gets almost 1/4 cup in every serving of grain free canned food. As she gets four main meals a day, plus two snacks, that's at least 8 oz, plus the water in the canned food.

Tolly and Queen Eva are a little persnickety about the amount of water added to their canned meals, I can't sneak in more than a teaspoon or so, but as they get 6 or seven servings like that, they are getting some extra.

Mazy cat, my only kibble diet cat, does not mind water added to her kibble, but if I put in more than a teaspoon she regurgitates the kibble, even though I only give her 1/2 tablespoon at a time.
 
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Originally Posted by otto

Yes I used a compounding pharmacy that I found by searching on line. I googled compounding pharmacies and used the one I found that was relatively local. The pharmacy was a three hour drive from my house and I actually drove out there and met the pharmacist. But he sold his business and is working as a pharmacist for the company he sold to, and I don't know if he is doing much compounding work any more.

I have heard roadrunner compounding pharmacy is good, but I have never used them.

Please keep us posted on your red boy. What's his name?
I have found a few compounding pharmacies that make liquid cisapride suspensions that I saved bookmarks for, in case my vet is ever out, but none of them make flavored tablets. I will have to look again, and check out the roadrunner pharmacy.

His name is Thomas! He's on the larger side and quite handsome, I think. His eyes are exactly the same pumpkin shade as his coat, and he has cute freckles on his nose, lips and gums. A vet I visited a few years ago said that he has those chubby cheeks and jowls because he wasn't neutered yet when I adopted him as an adult (somewhere around 5 years old), giving him time to fully masculinize. Here's a "glamour shot":



I put water in all their foods, too. Thomas gets quite a bit, so his canned food is more like a runny soup. I usually put a couple (two or three) pieces of dry kibble on the top to get him started eating it, which works surprisingly well with him. Otherwise he just looks at the food, and looks at me like "What is this watery mess?"

The other two eat dry, and I add a lot of water to that as well. I don't wait for the kibble to get saturated, I just give it to them right away with the food floating in the water. They don't mind in the least. They immediately drink up all the water and then start on the food. It's an easy way to increase their water intake, which I think can be a problem when they're eating dry.
 

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Road runner is one often used by my vet ...

another option is check with the pharmacy u use many have compounding abilties
 

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Originally Posted by Begemot

I put water in all their foods, too. Thomas gets quite a bit, so his canned food is more like a runny soup. I usually put a couple (two or three) pieces of dry kibble on the top to get him started eating it, which works surprisingly well with him. Otherwise he just looks at the food, and looks at me like "What is this watery mess?"

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My Jennie has trained me to do that for her too!


She doesn't mind the water really, and I leave chunks of canned food in it, but she discovered that if she held off and pretended she didn't like it I would drop a kibble or two on top, so she can have something extra.


Of course what she doesn't know is those kibble garnishes are subtracted from her daily kibble snack quota, so she really isn't getting anything extra at all.<weg>

Thomas is a stunning Red Boy. Red Boys are my favorite, freckles and all.
 

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Hello Everyone,

I had a cat for the last ten years of his life had Mega Colon. The way it was manged with success in this particular case was adding water to his food. He was fed 3oz of WET food in a sitting. Then I added 2oz of water to the WET cat food and "mixed it around".
Great idea about adding more water to the cats food!!! I think it is a good idea for megacolon cats to eat canned food with a bit of water added to make sure they are getting enough moisture in their diet. This is especially important for cats. Unfortunately my megacolon cat HATES watered down canned food. I add water to her canned food at every feeding but if i add too much water or make it too soupy she WILL NOT eat it
I have to make sure that the canned food is still chunky and add the water around the chunks. Sadly soupy does not work for her....I am really glad the extra water worked so well for your kitty


Your cats megacolon may not have been as progressed as some cats as well. The reason I say that is many megacolon cats stools seem to get harder then regular cats stools. This is where the extra water can really help soften the stool. But megacolon cats tend to lose the use of the muscles in the colon which push the stool out. My personal experience is I don't think water alone can remedy this. In many cases a motility drug is required to help contract the colon muscles to push the stools out. I know when I was giving my cat Miralax only (no motility drug yet) the stools would become soft but she could not get them out and she would block. The vet would say the stool is really soft when he would give her an enema. But once she was put on a regimen of Cisapride (motility drug) and Miralax she was able to push the soft stool out.
 
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