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post #31 of 37
11/19/10 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
Just out of curiosity... Is there some sort of statistic out there of the percentage of unschooled/anti-schooled kids that make into college, or graduate from Universities? Anything that compares them with kids from traditional education?
I don't know. One thing to consider is that a lot of non-traditionally educated people are wildly non-conformist and may choose career paths that don't require further schooling (un-jobbing! There's a book about it if you're curious). So it may be that many homeschoolers/unschoolers don't even try to get into college. I'll see if I can find something. I've never known anyone who was turned down for college, no matter what their early schooling choices were, but I'll see if I can find stats for that, too.
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post #32 of 37
11/19/10 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by zohdee View Post

In all honesty, I sometimes think parents do this out of greed. You get a computer and high speed internet paid for. I am not saying all parents do that but I bet a good few do.

There are things that are learned in school that some don't learn with home schooling. Social interacting is the big one.
In the past social was an issue... Now I can only speak for where I live now , but they have more home school trips and social days than most schools. They are very organized which is something as a child I did not see with my home schooled friends...
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post #33 of 37
11/19/10 at 6:57pm
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In all honesty, I sometimes think parents do this out of greed. You get a computer and high speed internet paid for. I am not saying all parents do that but I bet a good few do.
Wow! Homeschoolers in your state get a computer and internet service? That's awesome. We never got anything. Homeschoolers in this state don't get anything (except hassles).

I don't know why anyone thinks homeschoolers don't get enough social interaction. Day-to-day life for most people includes plenty of interaction with various people. Kids in school don't interact personally with all of the hundreds of people in their school. They usually have a close group of friends they hang out with. So do homeschooled kids.

I will say that I'm something of a social misfit, but that's because both of my parents are. I think it's genetic, LOL. They both went to all 12 years of public school, plus some college, so I don't think public schooling guarantees social success at all. You are who you are, regardless of schooling.
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post #34 of 37
11/19/10 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by Adriana View Post
I know that my parents and I think VERY differently. We have very different opinions on several different topics and I can't help but wonder, what would have happened if I had been home schooled my whole life? Perhaps I would have only known one way of life and thought that was the only way. Just my two cents.
I have plenty (!) of opinions that differ from those of my parents. I'm pretty sure that's just something that happens to most kids at a certain age. Unless a parent prevents all contact with people and ideas from outside the family (might happen sometimes, though I think that's a deeper issue, independent of schooling choices), the kids will find their own opinions at some point.

Sorry to post piecemeal like this! It's hard to multi-quote on a smartphone . I always end up erasing something.
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post #35 of 37
11/19/10 at 7:07pm
In regards to "socialization," I think what some people tend to forget is that school really isn't a social place (and a lot of the interaction that occurs between kids is hostile). In school, children sit at desks nearly all day long and are told *not* to talk to one another. Other than lunch time and possibly during group work time, they really don't interact all that much.

On the other hand, my son is a part of my husband's and my full, entire life. He goes where we go and is invited to take part in many different kinds of social interactions. Today, for example, he and I played alone, one-on-one together. We also went to the park where he played with children who were younger than him, older than him, and right around his age. He had a few short conversations with a few of the other moms at the park. This evening, we video chatted with my husband, who is away at a conference, and had an in-person conversation with a mom-friend of mine who stopped by to say hello. He was a full partner in these conversations; he wasn't told to "shush" or to go and play somewhere while Mama and her friend talked. He is engaged by both children and adults alike on a daily basis.
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post #36 of 37
11/19/10 at 7:33pm
I just don't understand the concept of "unschooling". I'm sorry, I'm not attacking anyone or putting anyone down, and honestly I never even heard of it until I read this thread. So, kids are just allowed to learn what they want, when they feel like it? That makes no sense to me. Kids just want to have fun and learn about what interests them, which is great, but they need to learn about what doesn't interest them as well. If I only learned what interested me, I wouldn't know how to add or subtract because I HATE math with a passion.

I mean, it may work for a small percentage of children but obviously it didn't work for the OP's example. If she can't tell time or look up a number in the phone book, that is pretty sad.

What I want to know is what happens if there is a disaster and internet service is not available? What if the power goes out and all the digital clocks aren't working? What happens if her cell phone goes dead or breaks and she can't look up a phone number? That girl is basically screwed. I think so many people rely so much on the internet and technology that we wouldn't know how to manage if everything just went poof...and that's sad.
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post #37 of 37
11/19/10 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by Willowy View Post
Wow! Homeschoolers in your state get a computer and internet service? That's awesome. We never got anything. Homeschoolers in this state don't get anything (except hassles).

I don't know why anyone thinks homeschoolers don't get enough social interaction. Day-to-day life for most people includes plenty of interaction with various people. Kids in school don't interact personally with all of the hundreds of people in their school. They usually have a close group of friends they hang out with. So do homeschooled kids.

I will say that I'm something of a social misfit, but that's because both of my parents are. I think it's genetic, LOL. They both went to all 12 years of public school, plus some college, so I don't think public schooling guarantees social success at all. You are who you are, regardless of schooling.
Those using the "new" home school based on public education often do get a computer( free if at the right income or below) ... At least here that is how ... Internet maybe for those who did not have prior .
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