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Another cat diet question, cat has chronic loose stools / diarrhea

post #1 of 12
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This might be a nutrition question as well but I felt this forum was better suited.

Me and my girlfriend have two cats, a 3 y-o male and 4 y-o female. We moved in May, and again in August. Ever since the first move, the boy's poop started getting looser and smellier. We have always fed the cats Purina Naturals dry cat food. We took the boy to the vet, poop and blood tests revealed nothing, but they prescribed something anyway, I think metronidazole, which had no effect. All throughout this time, he's showed no other differences in health. He's very active, friendly, playful, eats plenty, drinks plenty, and is not dehydrated based on the scruff test.

Knowing little about proper cat food, we tried switching to generic wet food (Priority brand), which made his poo basically liquid. Then we somehow decided upon Hill's Science Diet Sensitive Stomach dry food, and he showed a lot of improvement. His poop was definitely not optimal, but it was way better than it was this summer. Interestingly, he used to eat all of his food as fast as he could. Immediately upon switching to Hill's, he became a grazer.

During all this time I was pretty naive about food requirements for cats. After doing a bit of research, I noticed that people generally recommend against Hill's Science Diet. I looked at the ingredient list and the top ingredients are brewer's rice and corn gluten meal, which from what I've learned are not exactly what cats should be eating. Also, I learned that letting cats graze is bad because they should not be digesting food all day.

So I did some research, actually paying attention to ingredients this time, and eventually settled on Blue Buffalo Wilderness, and bought the salmon version. I learned that abruptly transitioning food is bad (though that should have been obvious), and transitioned our cats over 2 weeks to this food which seems to have high quality ingredients and good reviews. The cats only get 30 minutes to eat each of their two meals per day.

It's been a total of 3 weeks now. Our girl has been a real trooper, doing well with all of the different foods, but the boy is back to pooping liquid, extremely smelly liquid at that, with a lot of audible flatulence each time. So I have come here for advice. The vet just cost a lot of money and was unable to determine anything. HSD Sensitive Stomach seemed helpful for our boy's condition but has low quality non-meat ingredients. Blue Buffalo with all of it's high quality, actual meat ingredients has us at square one. What should we do?

Thanks in advance for any help
post #2 of 12
Welcome to TCS! Unfortunately loose stools can be caused by stress & I've seen them just spiral down from there.

Science Diet sensitive stomach is good for cats with loose stools, we use it often at the shelter. It's similar to SD's prescription diet I/D, not as good but also a fraction the price.

How long exactly has he been on the Wilderness, just three weeks?

ETA: You may want to look into trying probiotics before messing with the food again. Here is a thread on Benebac vs. Fortiflora.
post #3 of 12
Hi,
IMHO the best diet is the one that works for your cat, for you and for your budget. Sure, in theory Blue would be better... But if your boy can't handle it, what good does it make? Some cats just do better with grains then others... More important than theory, is to do what works for your cat.
Have you tried feeding wet food?
Also, there are different theories about grazing. For instances, some vets recommend having food out all the time to keep the insulin/metabolism levels from having big drops/variances. I was reading about this and was even recommended in a way to help preventing UTIs (urinary tract infections). Wet food is a different story... For that yes, it is better to feed on a schedule due to bacterial overgrowth - but there is really nothing wrong in measure free feeding dry food IMHO.
As far as food, I would put him on a food that has a one protein one grain kind of food for easy digestibility - perhaps something a formula like chicken and rice?
Higher fiber foods also seem to be easy on tummies, such as foods for hairball control; you can try that as well...
In my opinion I would look for rice as the main grain, and probably chicken as the protein source...
Good luck!
post #4 of 12
How frequently have you been changing the food? If you have changed it too often that can cause the diarrhea as well, especially dry food. Changing a dry food should be done over a period of a week to ten days by gradually adding the new food to the older food a bit at a time and increasing the amount a little every day until the transition has been completed.

If there was a food that worked for him, try going back to that food for awhile and then gradually change over to the better food to give his system a chance to get used to the new food.
post #5 of 12
Has he been tested for Tritrichomonas Foetus (TF)? It requires a special test and doesn't show up in a fecal test. Here's a site for more info: http://www.highgait.com/page/page/3485008.htm

Also, it might help to get a couple of Feliway diffusers to help reduce the stress in your home. We add acidophilus (1/2 tablet, crushed) into our kitties' wet food when they're having poop troubles. You can buy it in the supplement section of the grocery store, Wal-Mart, or drug store. It's the good bacteria in yogurt. It does take awhile to start seeing results, but it does work.
post #6 of 12
One of my 7 cats - a big wonderful male has had chronic diarrhea now for more than a few months...with 7 cats it took a while to find out which one had the diarrhea - in the fecal, the vet found these twirling, swimming like parasites they called flagyls (I saw them - hard to see - they float and twirl in the background)....he was treated with 2 rounds of metronidazole - which was probably exhausting on his intestines.....he still continued terrible liquid stools...and too often every day. It is important to reestablish balance in the intestines with good bacteria that is wiped out with the meds.

I got some 'Proviable' - a probiotic product - there are some little capsules and a paste to give. I had tried it before with no luck before, and then the parasites were found...he is now responding in just a couple of days, and actually had a stool with shape. Although very soft - this is a huge improvement, as he has had weight loss also. I have been so worried and was getting his records ready to call Dr. Loops - an holistic vet who gives chronic problem advise by phone if you are not near him. (my friends had great success with his advice for both cats and dogs.)
I also changed his wet food to Petguard (all cats are on perscription diet C/D because of another cat with chronic crystals - and it has been too difficult to separate them - that is another story).
At any rate...chronic diarrhea is terrible and they can get very dehydrated.
Make sure they get some intravenous fluids to overcome dyhydration.

That's our diarrhea story - hope it helps....it is very frustrating and worrysome. Blessings.

post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by ReginaKitty View Post

I got some 'Proviable' - a probiotic product - there are some little capsules and a paste to give. I had tried it before with no luck before, and then the parasites were found...he is now responding in just a couple of days, and actually had a stool with shape. Although very soft - this is a huge improvement, as he has had weight loss also.
This is the same probiotic both of my vets recommended for Bugsy... He has been on it for about 10 days now, but unfortunately he was on Metronidazole as well, so most of it was getting killed... My hope is that now that he is no longer on antibiotics, Proviable starts working full force. This probiotic is great as it also has prebiotics... It is VERY strong... 5 Billion CFU (to put it in perspective, Fortiflora is 10 Million, and common human acidophillus 100 million...). Anyways, here is a link to get it: Proviable-DC

Here is more information on it
post #8 of 12
ReginaKitty... the ONLY drug that kills Tritrichomonas is Ronizadole. Most vets misdiagnose this parasite and NOTHING else will get rid of it! I feel your pain. It took 4 years to figure out what was wrong with my cat. He is on this drug for 14 days and the diarrhea stopped after a few days. I pray he stays well. Please look into it. The lab can confuse this parasite with others and needs to be experienced in looking for trich. Good luck.
post #9 of 12
IMO, the best food for a cat is the food the cat thrives on - if Science Diet works, stick with SD - if Blue Buffalo, do that - if it's Friskies, well, yay Friskies!

I think we all get caught up by wanting only the best for our babies - and there's an awful lot of info out on the internet...but it makes absolutely no difference if 'food A' gets the absolutely best internet reviews in the world, if it's not doing the cat any good. Also, it's important to remember that no one on the internet has examined your cat - it's you and your vet that count most in your cat's care.

I hope your boy gets better - for me, I'd work with my vet on planned transition to a food that seems to have worked for my cat, and toss out the internet reviews.
post #10 of 12
I had this issue with my cat as well. I took him to the vet and spent lots of cash with no answers! Even the anti diarrhea medication gave him diarrhea! I finally noticed that my cat does not get diarrhea on the pea and duck natural balance ltd. I also found out that the fish version of any food gives him the squirts too. Maybe give this a try, but whatever you choose good luck!
post #11 of 12
I'm going through the same thing with my 10 month old male. I have a Holistic vet who makes house calls. She told me that this is irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), which most people on this forum are familiar with. A "syndrome" is actually just a set of symptoms, with no definitive cause. They are solved by process of elimination (no pun intended). My vet's strategy is to kill ALL the intestinal flora (good and bad) with a course of 'Metro', and then build the good flora back up with supplements (as mentioned above). As for diet she has him completely off anything with grain, poultry, or fish. That leaves beef, lamb, venison, or rabbit.

The problem with IBS is that the body keeps attacking the intestinal lining with an inflamatory response, and the lining gets sloughed off. So the body has to keep building a new lining. This constant cell growth can develop into cancer later in life. One lesson that I took from this: When animals are very young, they can tolerate a lot of junk food and not get sick. But the toll comes later in life. Just as young kids don't get cancer and heart disease (no matter what they eat), they risk these diseases later in life.

I am going to take great care of this 10 month old NOW - because I want him around and healthy for years to come. Remember, you can spend a little extra money on the best foods now, or pay much more money on vet bills later. Good luck to both of us!
post #12 of 12
My female cat has this issue. Originally she was eating 9 lives dry food and friskies while she was a stray, her stools were fine. We adopted her and she got fixed,vaccinated, and de-wormed. We also fed her 9 lives canned food.

After 2 years of having her (and another cat addition) she has diarrhea with blood, on her butt it looks like blood and mucus and she wipes it all over the floor. Before the epsiodes, we notice she gets severe foul smelling gas bad enough to clear a room. The first time she went to the vet they found worms and de-wormed her and she was better for a few months, but recently she was tested and everything came back fine. Once in a while she has gotten amoxicillan for her URI, and i'm wondering if the antibiotics took a toll on her digestive system? (i've had that problem and had to go on strong medication for months to fix it from too many antibiotics messing my system up, and now take probiotic pills if I have to go on antibiotic, it was NOT a good time in my life) But thanks to probiotics i'm fine now as long as I take them when i'm on antibiotic.

mabye once or twice a week she gets it. Sometimes she doesnt have it for a week or two, and others multiple times a week. We switched to science diet for senior cats as she is 10 years old now. She also eats friskies canned food and she loves crunchy treats she is the chow hound out of our two cats. But what she eats seem to not change the diarrhea.

Our house is very stressfull and she has always been stressed out since the new cat years ago and she is not very social when company is around, which is very often so i'm wondering if this is severe nerves causing it?


Our vets havent helped, and I dont know what it is and without a vets help i'm clueless as to what is could be. Is there probiotics for cats to restore good bacteria in digestive system? What about something if this is all nerves causing diarrhea? it's so crazy on the house that I cannot focus on the cats health as so many factors affect everyday life. My cat needs a place to chill out and relax and not be bothered and a monitered diet people always feed the cats food without me knowing, and my house is never calm.

My cat is the type if she goes outside she is happy and she stays in our yard and sleeps in the shrubs. I let her out when company is over because she gets so upset and scared heavy breathing and hiding, at least outside she can remain calm until company leaves then she can come in and relax.
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