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post #31 of 50
I look in on this everyday, hoping Bugsy is still improving. The Tylan has been great for Kody--today is the 19th day for him. The vet put his dose in small capsules and I try to catch him fairly soon after he eats. Like you, I just hope it is not like with the metronidazole and a couple of days ater he stops taking the Tylan his problem comes back. With Kody though, we started in right after the metronidazole so he never got the "runny poops", the Tylan worked to keep them away.
post #32 of 50
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Originally Posted by Kody's Mom View Post
I look in on this everyday, hoping Bugsy is still improving. The Tylan has been great for Kody--today is the 19th day for him. The vet put his dose in small capsules and I try to catch him fairly soon after he eats. Like you, I just hope it is not like with the metronidazole and a couple of days ater he stops taking the Tylan his problem comes back. With Kody though, we started in right after the metronidazole so he never got the "runny poops", the Tylan worked to keep them away.
Kody's mom, thank you for your reply... yesterday was day 7 for Bugsy, no throwing up so far... I am giving it right after his pm wet meal, I think it is making a difference.... How long is your vet planning on treating Kody with it? It sounds to me that it will be months for Bugsy... I wish I had started right after metro, but we had no idea he would get the runs so quickly when we finished the treatment with metro... this is the first time this happened... I just hope to see formed poop in the two weeks mark... that's all I hope...
post #33 of 50
Oh my gosh, how did I miss this? Huge vibes sweetie and I hope Bugsy continues to improve.xx
post #34 of 50
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
Kody's mom, thank you for your reply... yesterday was day 7 for Bugsy, no throwing up so far... I am giving it right after his pm wet meal, I think it is making a difference.... How long is your vet planning on treating Kody with it? It sounds to me that it will be months for Bugsy... I wish I had started right after metro, but we had no idea he would get the runs so quickly when we finished the treatment with metro... this is the first time this happened... I just hope to see formed poop in the two weeks mark... that's all I hope...
No vomiting is good. Will be watching for updates.
Bugsy
post #35 of 50
I really don't know how long the vet intends to keep Kody on the Tylan. He has been diagnosed with Colitis (had an endoscopy and biopsy), and for 2 years we have dealt with soft, bloody, mucousy poop (very seldom diarrhea though), intermintally.

He would take metronidazole, and two or three times prednisolone also, only to have it come back. This time it got really bad and he was "leaking" clear mucous. the vet prescribed the Metronidazole and told me even though he gave me a 20 day supply, he would just give it to him for 7-10 days (he thought that was probably enough to clear it up). After 7 days I quit and 2 days later there was blood and mucous again, so I tried 3 more days of the metronidazole, and then quit and the next day it was back.

I called the vet and he told me to come in and pick up the Tylan (a 30 day supply) and said it was safe for long-term. At the end of the 30 days he said to call and we will decide. Personally, I hope that we can keep him on a 2 to 3 times a week dosing (not everyday). The vet will probably want to see about just discontinuing it, but it is so nice not to get that awful sick feeling in my stomach when I see blood--if it is safe, I would rather keep him on some sort of spaced out low dose. If this is the case, I wish we had tried the Tylan long ago!
post #36 of 50
Thinking of you and Bugsy, sending lots of vibes!
post #37 of 50
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Yesterday was day 8 with no throwing up... On that level, things are definitely looking up for sure.
I decided not to wait and went ahead and left a message to his vet, I want to see what his thoughts are about how Bugsy is doing, not having major improvements this far along. He is probably going to want blood tests and an x-ray, which is ok... I guess that's what I have insurance for... I am hoping though we can wait a little longer, to the end of the 2 weeks mark. Once I hear from him I will update this thread. He is in surgery now.
Thanks for all the vibes you guys! :vi bes:
post #38 of 50
I hope Bugsy starts to feel better soon, Carolina!
post #39 of 50
Oh, poor Bugsy, such a sweet boy. I do hope this tylan does the trick and gets his insides back on track! Vibes for both of you..
post #40 of 50
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So I received a call from the vet, and he says we are on track. He said that since Metronidazole worked in firming up the poop, but when we stopped it went back to diarrhea, that is a big indication of inflamed intestinal track. He also said Tylan takes much longer to work, full results are often only seen after 14 days of treatment in case of severe inflammation like this.

He said if he doesn't get better, bring him for a blood test; he said this could be a lack of B12, or another nutrient as well. I brought up the fact that he never had a bioppsy done to diagnose his IBD and he said with his history, everything indicates he really has it, especially his history with stomatitis (IBD is highly common in LPS stomatitis cats), BUT in any case, there is a new blood test in an outside lab that can also diagnose IBD with results pretty much as good as a biopsy, for much cheaper, and much less invasive..... so..... IF push comes to shove, we will do the blood test next, and depending of what it shows (or not), we might opt for this specific blood test for IBD.
What he thinks it happened is that his bowels got inflamed with Clavamox and his immunesystem on the top of IBD makes it hard to heal and bring it back to normal.
If this medication doesn't work, he might need to go on prednisolone for a while, and I soooo don't want him to go into it...
Anyways, He IS improving a little - he has more energy, he has been playing chase back and forth with Lucky and being very very mischievous, his belly feels very soft, he no longer has gas...
I keep reminding myself... one day at a time... one day at a time.... I hope this works! I SO hope this works!
post #41 of 50
Vibes for Bugsy and you, big hugs
post #42 of 50
Sending lots of for Bugsy and a big for you!
post #43 of 50
At least it sounds like it's starting to do its job. he continues to improve!
post #44 of 50
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Sometimes I feel I am waiting for a miracle to happen.... It is so hard to keep cleaning the box and finding diarrhea day in and day out... Yesterday was day 9 on Tylan, and there has been no improvement since about day 5 or so Just so frustrating.... I want day 14 to come, and at the same time I want to stretch time as much as possible.... He is doing so well otherwise though... This is so very confusing....
post #45 of 50
I know. It took us quite a while to get Chumley's diarrhea under control. We about flipped out when a minuscule amount of the chinese herbal remedy the new holistic vet put him on caused horrible gas and diarrhea. Thankfully stopping it right away made things go back to normal - well - his normal. But I know that sinking heart day after day when cleaning the box.
post #46 of 50
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I know. It took us quite a while to get Chumley's diarrhea under control. We about flipped out when a minuscule amount of the chinese herbal remedy the new holistic vet put him on caused horrible gas and diarrhea. Thankfully stopping it right away made things go back to normal - well - his normal. But I know that sinking heart day after day when cleaning the box.
Yeah... It is really stressful, and hard to keep the hope up at times.... The only good thing is that I found an AMAZING new vet that has been working very closely with me, has been taking the time to call me back whenever I need to discuss his situation, and has done so at length... Explained all the options very thoroughly and carefully... So I feel I am ready for the next steps and don't feel they are that scary... The example of not needing a biopsy is one example... Possibility of B12 is another... So many scary things come to mind, and having a vet that will talk you through it really makes a World of difference. I feel I found the right person to help me beat this, while before I was on the wrong hands.
post #47 of 50
That makes a big difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad you're working with someone you like and trust.
post #48 of 50
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So, yesterday was day 12 on Tylan... Still not throwing up, but also no improvement on the diarrhea. I know the vet told me to wait until day 14, but I have a feeling he is not going to get better - I went ahead and scheduled him for a consult with a full blood panel Monday (which is what the vet said his next step would be). I am not sure what else they are going to do, but I trust this vet, and we will get to the bottom of this....
Hopefully sooner than later.
Today is Diarrhea day 55
post #49 of 50
Oh, the poor baby. How's his spirits?
post #50 of 50
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Oh, the poor baby. How's his spirits?
Thank you
Aside from this, he is doing wonderful! Normal appetite and energy levels, playful, happy and loving as he has ever been. Keeping his weight well... Lost some in the beginning, but now it is stable.
If you didn't see the diarrhea in the box (and had to keep his bottom clean), you would never tell he has anything... He is 100% normal Bugsy - thank Goodness!
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