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Regarding Sasha...for the time being, discontinue using the K/D diet. Sahsa may have been eating it as a novelty but he isn't that keen about it. he only ate a piece the size of a quarter out of this morning's portion and would squint at his plate when I'd show him his second serving.

However, when I opened up a fresh can of Performatrin Ultra Chicken Stew; Sasha ate it straight out of the can (agreed not the whole can: the gravy and top layer of chicken pieces).

Says the Vet: "Better a Sasha on Performatrin Ultra who eats than a Sasha on the K/D diet who won't eat". We're talking about a 3.5% difference in crude protein (off the top of my head 10% for the Performatrin vs 6.5% for the K/D ... still a lot lower than the K/D dry) and Sasha likes it so...that's what I'll do.

The Vet was mentioning perhaps Hospitalizing Sasha should he be constipated, but did say that it's normal if he was eating so little that he didn't have enough bulk built up in his intestines to form a stool.

He's had BM's Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday morning...things might step up once he's back on his regular wet food; and this time I'll skip adding Glucosamine or Vitamin supplement powder to it: he smells it in the food and won't eat it!

I'm worried about my little buddy but I'm not giving up!
 

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I take it the 10% and 6.5% are canned? If so you are Looking a a MUCH larger % difference in a dry matter .. roughly 10% but as long as it is digestible quality protein no issue

see 10% wet food protein = 35-50% dry matter
6.5 = 20-40
 

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Originally Posted by Lucky Luke

The Vet was mentioning perhaps Hospitalizing Sasha should he be constipated, but did say that it's normal if he was eating so little that he didn't have enough bulk built up in his intestines to form a stool.
I am AMAZED, that this vet would consider hospitalizing your cat, when he is on pain killers for a bladder inflammation (sorry, but that in itself deserves a
), and pain killers are very VERY well known to cause:
  1. constipation
  2. lack of appetite.
WHY is he leaving a 18 year old on pain killers for so long, when clearly it is creating serious issues to him?
I would be running miles, and I really, really mean miles away from this vet. He is not treating your kittie's issues, he just treating the symptoms, and on the contrary - he is creating even more issues. Think about it - your cat was better before you took him to this vet... It was inn great shape.... and look at him now!
And I would also highly recommend you stopping the medication ASAP.... But, that is my opinion only.... What you are getting from it IMHO is just nasty side effects
 
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Originally Posted by sharky

I take it the 10% and 6.5% are canned? If so you are Looking a a MUCH larger % difference in a dry matter .. roughly 10% but as long as it is digestible quality protein no issue

see 10% wet food protein = 35-50% dry matter
6.5 = 20-40
Yes, the canned food!
 
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Originally Posted by Carolina

I am AMAZED, that this vet would consider hospitalizing your cat, when he is on pain killers for a bladder inflammation (sorry, but that in itself deserves a
), and pain killers are very VERY well known to cause:
  1. constipation
  2. lack of appetite.
WHY is he leaving a 18 year old on pain killers for so long, when clearly it is creating serious issues to him?
I would be running miles, and I really, really mean miles away from this vet. He is not treating your kittie's issues, he just treating the symptoms, and on the contrary - he is creating even more issues. Think about it - your cat was better before you took him to this vet... It was inn great shape.... and look at him now!
And I would also highly recommend you stopping the medication ASAP.... But, that is my opinion only.... What you are getting from it IMHO is just nasty side effects
I hear what you're saying, but on the other hand; should I change Vets every time they say something I don't like/want to hear?

As per last Saturday's consultation, Sasha wasn't constipated after all; in fact he had a BM that very night and the following night; and his last BM was soft and looked a bit loose.

I'll give you that since he's still peeing the floor; the Torbutrol (as I told the Vet) ain't helping. He's supposed to follow-up with me again tomorrow, and I think I will skip the Torbutrol. Just feed Sasha his Performatrin and see what the Vet suggests.
 

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Originally Posted by Lucky Luke

I hear what you're saying, but on the other hand; should I change Vets every time they say something I don't like/want to hear?

As per last Saturday's consultation, Sasha wasn't constipated after all; in fact he had a BM that very night and the following night; and his last BM was soft and looked a bit loose.

I'll give you that since he's still peeing the floor; the Torbutrol (as I told the Vet) ain't helping. He's supposed to follow-up with me again tomorrow, and I think I will skip the Torbutrol. Just feed Sasha his Performatrin and see what the Vet suggests.
No, I didn't say that, but it is allarming to me that a vet treats a bladder inflammation with pain killers for a week long in a 18 yr old cat, while not treating the underlying cause.
Pain killers are not to be taken lightly even on young cats... My vets and I say in plural - only give to my cats on very short term because of the side effects, one of them being constipation.
If a vet does something like that and is causing so much trouble in a senior and fragile cat, yes, I would definitely recommend changing vets.
 

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You need to call either the vet or the ER clinic and find out if you can JUST stop the Meds... You may have to taper them off... The peeing issue , do you have feliway going?
 
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