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post #1 of 19
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Now no laughing there.. I have just made my first ever website. Honestly I haven't got a clue how they are supposed to be done, so I just did what I could with some free website maker. It's my cattery's website, and I'd like to know what you think so far, did I forgot something? Is there too much something? Everything working? Lots of typos?
I will add more info and maybe photo galleries in there, but for now I just had to come up with something so it's a bit of a mess... (I don't like the way it looks, but maybe I find a way to fix it someday).

Enter if you dare..

Funny thing is that after I had written most of the text in there, I realized I was writing in english, not finnish. Will have to figure out how to easily switch the language there..
post #2 of 19
I like it!!
Couple of things:
The typeface on Luna's page is different and way smaller than Kuura's...

I think on the contact page you can create a form, that people can fill in, can't you?
See my contact page on my site.
Also on my site you can see a Google translation tool - you can put that that tool on your site, and anybody in the world can easily translate your page... Definitely a handy little tool! I put that in there as my whole family is in Brazil and the majority doesn't speak English
Here is where you get the Google translate tool: http://translate.google.com/translate_tools
What about adding adding a blog page? I am not familiar with Webs; do they have that capability? With a blog you would have the chance of updating fun stuff with the kitties, show results, kitten news, etc... You would get followers and get awareness to your cattery... Just a thought...
post #3 of 19
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Thanks. Fixed the font size from Luna's page. There was somekind of 'contact us'-box, but it was available to 'upgraded premier accounts' or something like that. I will later add my phonenumber and see if there is a way to get that easy-contact box without having to pay.
I was also thinking of adding a 'news' section, a bit blog-like thing which many european catteries have on their websites instead of a blog. Will have to see what I can do with that website maker, I know I could add background music but....that's not helping.
post #4 of 19
I use the same website base. Mine is upgraded as I prefer not having banner adverts on my site. Careful with adding background music too, many people dislike it and will leave your site rather than investigate each page.

I prefer an email over contact boxes myself. I have mine so when they click on the email it comes up with the subject line filled already, makes it easier when going through my inbox.

Many of the European catteries seems to have a home page where you enter in either English or their native language.
I don't see the point in a separate blog page, there's no reason you couldn't have a 'news' page on the website, or even on the front page.
post #5 of 19
The advantage of a contact box as oppose of an email address is the easy of use - a click-able link is not advisable due to spiders and spam emails (the OP prevented this by adding numbers on the address), but for people using a web mail, such as yahoo, or hotmail, AOL, etc, it requires logging in, cutting and pasting etc. While the contact page is already right there, type, click, and it is sent.
If you have a clickable link, and no email software installed, when you click on that link it will ask you to install a software in order to send that email. I have purchased in other businesses just because of that.
I am not saying that choosing a cattery is an impulse choice, but as with anything, an interface should be easier to use IMHO... Anyways, Just my 2 cents FWIW
post #6 of 19
I liked it ... easy to read ( love the green)... and easy to navigate
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
I was also thinking of adding a 'news' section, a bit blog-like thing which many european catteries have on their websites instead of a blog.
There you go! A News page would be great! I thought about blog not because of the blog features as far as the people responding back and forth and so on, but because of how easy it is to post and update the news, by date and so forth...
My goodness, I gotta say... Your cats are just stunning!
post #8 of 19
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The advantage of a contact box as oppose of an email address is the easy of use - a click-able link is not advisable due to spiders and spam emails
Never had an issue here and I deal with a large amount of emails, also adding numbers or spaces can confuse many people.
Some people are not tech savy enough to click on links or take out numbers so I include both my home and mobile numbers - again no issues.

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I thought about blog not because of the blog features........but because of how easy it is to post and update the news, by date and so forth...
There is no reason why a webpage can't be easily updated whenever is needed, so everything remains all on the one site at a glance.
post #9 of 19
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Thanks for your opinions everyone.
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Originally Posted by missymotus View Post
I use the same website base. Mine is upgraded as I prefer not having banner adverts on my site. Careful with adding background music too, many people dislike it and will leave your site rather than investigate each page.

Many of the European catteries seems to have a home page where you enter in either English or their native language.
No worries, I dislike background music on webpages so not going to add anything. Has the site been working well for you?

I was also wanting to add buttons for choosing the language, but I don't know how to do that. I think it looks too confusing if there is two or more languages mixed in together, which I also see fairly often done, i.e. first part is finnish, then the same in swedish below the finnish, and then possibly in english.
post #10 of 19
We use Webs for both our breeding program (dachshunds) and our home based business. I'll link both for you to see.

Foosfeldt Dachshunds:
http://foosfeldt.webs.com/

Product of the 80s:
http://productofthe80s.webs.com/

The first one is done with their templates, the second is done with HTML. And, the second is supposed to look like it does, we were trying to mimic 80s styles and like how it came out. We still need to add a bunch of stuff to it though, I just haven't had time. The first one just needs to be updated, lol.

Just a few things:
"having free access to whole apartment" - I would rather say "having free access to our home", personally, I do not like people knowing where I live when I have breeding quality animals. Around here apartments are much easier to break into than homes and ours is on the first floor. I've also found that people are more wiling to email if they think you live in a house, for some reason around here apartments are generally thought of for low incomes and then associated with BYBs.

"We aim to quality instead of quantity" - the to should be changed to for

"We go to shows, but it's not the most important thing in our lives, the cats' well being comes first." - I would remove or reword this

"I have also attended to Fifé's "breeder lesson", which became obligatory to finnish Fifé breeders since 2010." - the first to should be removed and I think you mean finish instead of finnish

"but thought that it's good to educate myself a bit more before actually breeding any litters." - perhaps "but decided to educate myself more before breeding a litter".

I'm not sure if cat registries are the same as dog registries at all - but be careful with putting pedigrees on websites. With dogs, you can get an AKC pedigree from any website and use it to register a dog with another registry.

"Luna is a cleptomaniac kitty who likes to steal things like socks, bills, toys..and hides them to her "secret hideout"." - and hides them in her secret hideout

Just a few suggestions, I like how it's laid out for the most part. I personally, love black backgrounds in websites - they actually use less energy too, but I know that some people hate them. That was one of my dad's comments on our 80s page, he found it a bit hard to read.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
Has the site been working well for you?
I've never had any problems with the site.

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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post

I was also wanting to add buttons for choosing the language, but I don't know how to do that. I think it looks too confusing if there is two or more languages mixed in together, which I also see fairly often done, i.e. first part is finnish, then the same in swedish below the finnish, and then possibly in english.
You'll need to create each page in each language, and probably hide them from the main nav bar.
Then on your home page use an image - perhaps a flag of that country, as your link into the pages.
You can cheat with html http://www.ibdguy.com/makehtml/index.php#link
http://www.scriptgenerator.net/gener...image-link.php

Once you've created the paragraph you want to link to, click on the <> button which is for custom html. That will make your flags (or whatever you've chosen) into a clickable link.
post #12 of 19
Hiya! it looks really good to me! I agree with the comments so far ^
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by nerdrock View Post
Just a few things:
"having free access to whole apartment" - I would rather say "having free access to our home", personally, I do not like people knowing where I live when I have breeding quality animals. Around here apartments are much easier to break into than homes and ours is on the first floor. I've also found that people are more wiling to email if they think you live in a house, for some reason around here apartments are generally thought of for low incomes and then associated with BYBs.

"I have also attended to Fifé's "breeder lesson", which became obligatory to finnish Fifé breeders since 2010." - the first to should be removed and I think you mean finish instead of finnish

I'm not sure if cat registries are the same as dog registries at all - but be careful with putting pedigrees on websites. With dogs, you can get an AKC pedigree from any website and use it to register a dog with another registry.
First: It's common to live in an apartment in this city (and you need a specific code to get into this building before even seeing my front door), it's capital area, and I don't really know anyone who lives in a 'house' around here (even breeders), but for foreigners that info could be changed.

second: finnish--> finish? I'm talking about nationality here. I always though it's written with two n-letters. (But then again, I'm from Finland so please do correct my typos as my english isn't that good).

third: the pedigree database I have linked to my site is available to everyone. If someone is interested in a kitten/litter for breeding purpose, they want to know the pedigrees. I don't even bother to contact people if I can't see the pedigrees. Nothing to hide there as they are not photocopies, and may even have typos and other mistakes in that database (and has them, for sure). (It has a LOT of pedigrees in there, I always check there if I want to know certain cat's pedigree).

Please forgive all the weirdness in the text, I have just agreed with someone to spell check it for me as I don't speak english that well, this is a test version.

And I have to say that your 80's website was cool, as a NES player to see all those games.. "Luckily" they don't work in the european version console. :P


Keep the comments coming!
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
First: It's common to live in an apartment in this city (and you need a specific code to get into this building before even seeing my front door), it's capital area, and I don't really know anyone who lives in a 'house' around here (even breeders), but for foreigners that info could be changed.

second: finnish--> finish? I'm talking about nationality here. I always though it's written with two n-letters. (But then again, I'm from Finland so please do correct my typos as my english isn't that good).

third: the pedigree database I have linked to my site is available to everyone. If someone is interested in a kitten/litter for breeding purpose, they want to know the pedigrees. I don't even bother to contact people if I can't see the pedigrees. Nothing to hide there as they are not photocopies, and may even have typos and other mistakes in that database (and has them, for sure). (It has a LOT of pedigrees in there, I always check there if I want to know certain cat's pedigree).

And I have to say that your 80's website was cool, as a NES player to see all those games.. "Luckily" they don't work in the european version console. :P
Thanks for the info - I didn't know if it was common in your area or not, or if it's even common for cat breeders. Quite honestly, I didn't even think there were cat breeders up until I started fostering with dog rescue and attended an event where there was a cat show. For some reason I didn't even think of it I just know around here you aren't considered a good breeder (for ANYTHING) if you live in an apartment. I find it you disclose it after talking to a potential customer it's fine, but if it's announced right on your sight it's a "red flag". In the city I live in you can't register as a breeder (not sure about cats because it just says breeders) unless you have a building specifically for it - be it small shed that you never use to an actual building for it. One reason why we're looking for a house, as soon as we get over three dogs we have to apply for it.

Sorry, didn't realize you were talking about nationality I was probably tired when I was reading it anyways, lol.

Like I said, I'm not sure how many cat registries there are so I just wanted to point out what's starting to happen with dogs. There is a lady on one of my dog forums that used to breed cats and said that the same thing had started to happen there, but I'm not sure what country she was from or anything like that off hand. More than likely the states because they seem to have more registries for breeds of anything than other countries. If it's not a problem in your area, I wouldn't worry about it We keep pedigrees off our site specifically for the reason that people are using the #'s to register dogs with other registries, then after a litter is born and registered with that registry as long as they have a 5 generation pedigree they can register the litter with the AKC. I think this is going on mostly with Continental as they seem to be one of the biggest next to AKC and UKC.

Thanks for the comment on the 80s website I'm quite proud of it as it's the fist thing I've ever coded myself and my boyfriend was of no help, lol. I still have a TON to add to it (we have a ton of games, Intellivison and Atari stuff, promotional stuff, LPs, and general 80s stuff in our apartment that I need to get up). Just so you know, we do occasionally get European stuff lol
post #15 of 19
looks nice
post #16 of 19
It looks great! I love your cats.

2 typo's I found:
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I have also attended to Fifé's "breeder lesson", which became obligatory to finnish Fifé breeders since 2010.
"... which became obligatory for Finnish Fife breeders since 2010."


On Tomu's page:
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He has the crazies voice which he uses to talk to himself a lot.. And he likes to make funny noices when watching birds from the window.
crazies = craziest
noices = noises


Love it! & you are now required to post pics when you have a litter lol!!!
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by NorthernGlow View Post
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third: the pedigree database I have linked to my site is available to everyone. If someone is interested in a kitten/litter for breeding purpose, they want to know the pedigrees.

I have just agreed with someone to spell check it for me as I don't speak english that well, this is a test version.
I like pedigrees on site too, and many are available on public sites like PawPeds even if you don't do a direct link - important for people to be able to access them especially when looking for breeding cats.

I don't mind or expect imperfect English when it's not the first language, I'm just grateful they've tried and have an English section. Great you've got a friend to help you look over the spelling though.
post #18 of 19
It looks nice and "sobre" in sweenglish....

Will surely be even better with time.

A couple of typos I noticed.

First side: shall be: "any way" - not "anyway". Two different words, so an automatic controll wont notice, as both expressions are existing.
They are not in any way caged - or similiar....


there about this foldie: in the beginning "wether" - I think it is whether...


Your full name dont stand there in the Contact section as I saw, only the surname. You want it so?


Good luck!
post #19 of 19
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Your full name dont stand there in the Contact section as I saw, only the surname. You want it so?


Good luck!
Yes, I left it out on purpose at the moment, will be adding it later though when the site is more finished. (All our local BSH breeders know it already, this is a very small country after all and only have 2 persons with that name living here).
So far I'm looking at this site from breeder's point of view, as the people who are interested in my first litter are all breeders. So it needs to have enough info for breeders, and then some for the pet seekers.

*edit* Forgot to mention about the pedigrees: You will need actual photocopies or original pedigrees to register a litter or a cat (to another registry), copying one from PawPeds would almost be as making it up and writing it yourself and then trying to register.

Thanks everyone!
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