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post #31 of 36
9/13/10 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by Desirai View Post
also.. what is the difference between ibd and ibs?
Per my vet, the difference (making it simple to understand the difference only, and not going too complicated, as it goes much deeper than that),
IBD is a chronic condition: Irritable Bowel Disease, Your cat will have the symptoms all the time and it is harder to manage. Bugsy, for example, will never have 100% formed poop, no matter what I do. He is on Daily medication for Stomatitis, which has a immune-modulator that greatly helps his IBD. If I skip his medication, I can see that he has softer poop.
IBD cats probably benefit more from medication and diet, rather that diet alone, when managing the condition. I certainly noticed a huge improvement on Bugsy.

IBS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, has much the same symptoms, however it comes in flares. You treat the symptoms during the flares, a lot of the times the same way you treat IBD, or sometimes more aggressive, but because it comes in flares, it is also easier to manage once it is under control - on IBS it is possible to manage the condition with food only.

So...... long story short: the way my vet explained to me, IBD Chronic, IBS, Flares.

This is the simplistic way, not going into the inflammation of tissues, etc etc. Just the symptoms, making it easy, as I was a 4yr old.
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post #32 of 36
9/13/10 at 7:35pm
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Originally Posted by Desirai View Post
hi.. do any of you have experience with kirklands signature cat food?

My neighbor feeds that to her cats and gave me a bowl to try.
Kirkland is far better than what you are feeding...

main ingredients are chicken ( can be a issue but not for most) , rice( can be issue but not a top one ) , oats ( very rarely an issue and actually helps with gut health and digestion) and some fish( can be a bigger issue but not in some) ...


My two with IBD do fairly well on it
compared to current this would be a realistic and inexpensive way to check for the big allergies
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post #33 of 36
9/14/10 at 5:40am
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Originally Posted by Desirai View Post
also.. what is the difference between ibd and ibs?
IBD = Inflammatory Bowel Disease. This is confirmed by the presence of specific inflammatory cells in the gastrointestinal tract. This confirmation is done via biopsy. The symptoms of IBD can mimic food allergy symptoms. They do not know what causes IBD so they do not know how to avoid it. In Franklin's case it is being very well managed with prednisolone.

IBS = Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This is more idiopathic. It has many of the same symptoms as IBD. It can be triggered by diet, stress, water...
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post #34 of 36
9/14/10 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by KyleW View Post
IBD = Inflammatory Bowel Disease. This is confirmed by the presence of specific inflammatory cells in the gastrointestinal tract. This confirmation is done via biopsy. The symptoms of IBD can mimic food allergy symptoms. They do not know what causes IBD so they do not know how to avoid it. In Franklin's case it is being very well managed with prednisolone.

IBS = Irritable Bowel Syndrome. This is more idiopathic. It has many of the same symptoms as IBD. It can be triggered by diet, stress, water...
Your definition contradicts itself...


http://www.dcavm.org/05dec.html long and detailed but very intresting
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post #35 of 36
9/14/10 at 11:24am
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
Your definition contradicts itself...


http://www.dcavm.org/05dec.html long and detailed but very intresting
How is it self contradicting?
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post #36 of 36
9/14/10 at 2:28pm
Chiming in with my experience. Phoebe has Eosinophilic IBD, which is the most severe form of IBD, and we've tried just about everything out there to get her condition under control. For the first time in years she's not only doing OK but actually thriving, and without medication. Her diet consists mainly of Nature's Variety Instinct canned food in novel proteins: lamb, rabbit and venison (the duck contains turkey). I remove the peas, which are few, because I want to avert a future pea allergy. Apparently pea allergies are becoming more common in cats and dogs. She occasionally gets a can of Hill's Z/D, but it's not a favorite and she tends to pick at it. She also gets 1 1/2 scoops of Mercola's Complete Probiotics For Pets per day mixed with her food, and this is the little miracle that has caused her to gain weight and set her digestive system to rights. I can't say that she never vomits, but it's a rare occurrence now. She sometimes manages to get into her little sister's food and has yet to have a reaction to it, which is incredible to say the least.

Best wishes to you and Meatloaf. I know it's heartbreaking to watch them struggle with this disease.
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