doll face persian

Hey here is a picture of my new baby tc, I had some questions to wether or not he was a doll face

how cute are they?

awwwwwwwwww

Personally, I don't like the term Doll Faced there in NO standard for it and if these are to be considered persians, it has the wrong head type, I know you don't breed or anything.. BUT long nosed persians should not have any other special names, if you have a persian with a long nose you have a persian that doesn't conform with the standard.

I am not sure exactly what you are telling me. That he isnt what is considered a doll face? I dont breed, he is a pet only. I did not know that he had a long nose before I picked him up,but he does have papers!

Hi.

I'm telling you, That Doll Faced is just a name for long nosed persian cats. They are not a special breed. Yes, he may have papers and eveything because he's a PERSIAN.

I'm sorry I'm being difficult, but some of this worlds breeders are CRAAAAAZY!

I know that he is a persian. I know that it isnt a special breed, and that doll face maybe slang or whatever. I didnt know much about long nosed persians before. I prefer a extreme faced persian. but he has already stole my heart. so who knows maybe Ill talk dh into another! I may even get a munchkin!

Ok

I know people here that breed Munchkins so I wont get started about Munchkins, its just the ones over here in NZ are so deformed.......

I like doll face better smooshie face looked like they ran into a wall but that is just me!

I also won't start on the muchkin topic, from what I have read I have formed opions

Awwwwwwwww Val! My Holly a.k.a brick wall cat, (BTW: a cat that does conform near perfectly to the persian standard) is giving you the most disgusted look, you should be very ashamed of yourself!!!!

Munchkins came to New Zealand a few years back and all they have brung with them is Debate & Argument! I feel it's a deformation of the "cat". However...

It's probably pretty similar to the Siamese cats. Some have long wedge shaped faces, and I think those are what is considered more standard for the breed, and some like mine have a more round face, and I believe they are called "traditional" Siamese. Both are Siamese, but the Wedgy's are considered more perfect I think. That being said, I myself love my "traditional" faced Siamese. They have much sweeter faces. I also have a Persian, and I think he's more the Persian standard, with the most pushed in face and nose, you've ever seen. He's no more beautiful than your cat is. You cat is a beauty.

Originally posted by WellingtonCats
Awwwwwwwww Val! My Holly a.k.a brick wall cat, (BTW: a cat that does conform near perfectly to the persian standard) is giving you the most disgusted look, you should be very ashamed of yourself!!!!

Munchkins came to New Zealand a few years back and all they have brung with them is Debate & Argument! I feel it's a deformation of the "cat". However...

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awwww give your kitty kisses for me I think they are cuties but they look like grumpy old men

I am facing the same problem. I had Ginger from a pet store as we fell in her love from the first look. We did not see her nose but it is flat. I do not breed for comercial or shows, but I like the nature. So when she wanted to marry, I looked for a persian male for her, and I did not know about that nose issue, so the 3 babies came with long noses. I keep one of them, Sherry, she is adorable. The problem is some of the people do not like to get a baby cat with a nose. I faced that when one of the three kitten stayed for 4 months till I found her a loving home. So if you are not caring about having babies, never mind about the nose.
Amany

Hope- Yes, Stanley is definitly the cat we are trying to breed Very Beautiful!

Val- LOL, Will Do! I there squashy mops

Thanks WellingtonCats- Stanley is pretty special to me.

Hope

Upon great research, I have discovered
that the term "doll-faced" is used to describe a persian cat with a face that actually protrudes from the skull. Alot of cat associations register these cats because they are purebred persians, however they are not considerd "show" cats. The flat faced persians (extreme-faced) are considered the standard for persian cats and show quality cats. You will never be able to show a "doll-faced" persian in these associations. Actually, early persians did not look at all like show persians today - they had longer faces. It has been through selective breeding over the years which has produced the flat smacked up against the wall look, which is what alot of cat associations prefer as the "standard". However, there are associations that prefer the "traditional" persian just as well. Hope this gives you a little more insight into the breed

Okay.... I don't want to argue with anyone about these 2 things.... but,


A friend of mine showed me a newspaper clipping from 40 some years ago, with him and his wife holding a CFA winning himmie and i'll be darn if this cat was a doll faced cat.....


Breeders decide the standard.

About munchkins... as I breed them, please feel free to ask questions about what they are suppose to be, sam, I'd like to know what they're doing to them there in NZ.

Princess purr... Don't believe everything you read, if you'd like to get the real lowdown on them, just ask. I'd be more than happy to tell you.

We have been with the Munchkin Community through ALL the trials and tribulations of having them NBC in TICA and being with the first association to accept them for championship.... Finally TICA followed suit.

What gets me is when (and we've been through this many times) people make wrong assumptions because of something they've heard or read.
Yes, breeders can and do screw up cats, persians for example.... bad breeders use the ones that have maloclussions or some other deformity that is then passed on.... which could pop up who knows how many gens down the line. Munchkins are no different.... but I will say, that since they are based on and outcrossed with domestics they are often healthier than alot of "purebreds". (meaning, there are problems with certains breeds such as hip displasia etc.)

I guess what Im saying is that no matter what breed it is, get the facts from reputable breeders and owners before you make a decision.

smooshie face looked like they ran into a wall

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LOL I've always kind of thought the same thing. I still think they are cute though. But I think your persian is beautiful, I love that second picture you posted.

I also prefer the applehead (traditional) siamese as opposed to the wedgeheads. I still think the wedgeheads are beautiful, but for some reason I'm just more attracted to appleheads.