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post #91 of 103
8/6/10 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by clixpix View Post
I would love for you to show me where I said anything different. I've noted it numerous times in this thread. That's what's so horrible about it.
So he's responsible for everything said by anyone he donates to? That's almost certainly not a reasonable standard for him, for me, or for you.
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post #92 of 103
8/6/10 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
So he's responsible for everything said by anyone he donates to? That's almost certainly not a reasonable standard for him, for me, or for you.
It is a reasonable standard. If I donate to an organization, you better darn well know what they stand for. Why wouldn't someone check it out? I don't have a lot of money to throw around, so yes, I'm well aware of the beliefs/mission statements/morals of organizations I donate to.

But you know what? You're determined to belittle my belief and participation in this. So go right ahead. At least I'm doing something to fight for what I believe in. If you want to sit back and spin excuses for this guy's ignorance, spin away.
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post #93 of 103
8/6/10 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
So he's responsible for everything said by anyone he donates to? That's almost certainly not a reasonable standard for him, for me, or for you.
Actually, that very same reasoning was used by the Mormon Church, and nearly all the Christian Churches that donated to "Yes on 8" to excuse themselves from the outright lies and propaganda spread by protectmarriage.com, even though it was almost entirely funded by those very same Churches. They didn't actually lie or bear false witness, they just gave money to someone that did. According to them, it's not sinning to pay someone else to do your sinning for you.

Many churches, in fact, distributed instruction and donation forms to their congregations, so they could raise funds in church, without risking violating their tax-free status by actually collecting money for political campaigns.

The form in in .pdf format, so you need Adobe reader to view it.

http://www.protectmarriage.com/files...structions.pdf

http://www.protectmarriage.com/files/Donation_form.pdf
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post #94 of 103
8/6/10 at 4:53pm
And, as I keep on saying, that's why the church I was raised in actually discourages political activity. And NEVER would an election be preached about in church.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that the whole thing is going to end up as I said, you file civil union papers with the county, and marriages are completely religious.
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post #95 of 103
8/6/10 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
And, as I keep on saying, that's why the church I was raised in actually discourages political activity. And NEVER would an election be preached about in church.

The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that the whole thing is going to end up as I said, you file civil union papers with the county, and marriages are completely religious.
But those churches didn't get involved in political activity; not in the strictest sense, and certainly not according to their points of view. They paid someone to do it for them. And therefore, in their eyes, that makes it all ok.

Which is exactly what this politician has done. Simply paid someone to speak his mind for him. And he retains the ability to honestly say, "I never said that myself!"
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post #96 of 103
8/9/10 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
Actually, that very same reasoning was used by the Mormon Church,

How long have The Mormon's let black people into their religion?
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post #97 of 103
8/9/10 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
And it's odd, but Sweden, where marriage had just about died out, has seen an upswing in marriages in the last few years. There were those who swore that country's social welfare policies would kill marriage, and they were almost right, but now it's going the other way. Very interesting, how these things work.

Linkey link. From a reputable non-Fox source please.
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post #98 of 103
8/9/10 at 12:20pm
Swedish Marriage and Divorce rates (through 2005)

Effect of Welfare on Families
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post #99 of 103
8/9/10 at 1:58pm
This is a reputable source of information? http://micpohling.wordpress.com
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post #100 of 103
8/10/10 at 12:02pm
"The Gays" or even Swedish Socialism that are threatening marriage?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/08/10...ex.html?hpt=C2

Granted The Clinton News Network doesn't have the credability of Fox News but is religion a threat to marriage? Or are Black People a threat to marriage?
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post #101 of 103
8/10/10 at 12:42pm
I think people, themselves, are a threat to marriage.

I can see where the author of the story might see that situation one way, but another way to look at it is why should these women "settle" for someone who doesn't meet their needs?

Or, if they want to focus on the Black Community, maybe they need to take a more in-depth look at what repels the men. They give opinions on what they think does, but nothing beyond that. Maybe the attitude of the women just isn't what the men are looking for. *shrug*

All in all, I think the article is though-provoking, but I don't think it's only one thing, religion, keeping these women from finding a lifemate.
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post #102 of 103
8/10/10 at 1:24pm
And being Capitalist. Or Japanese are a threat to marriage too. Isn't Japan very capitalist?




http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/handbook/c02cont.htm
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post #103 of 103
8/11/10 at 2:39pm
No. No. It's Jennifer Aniston who is destroying marriage. Gotta love the Fox News.


Bill O'Reilly: Jennifer Aniston Is 'Destructive to Society'

http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/11/b...deo/?icid=main
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