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Postal Worker: "I don't answer to cops."

post #1 of 7
7/20/10 at 1:35pm
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/25...071610.article

Sorry dude, you have to obey law. This could very well cost him his job.

This is a different issue, but management also tries to be ignorant of the law when it comes to things like snow emergencies. When the county/municipality declares a level three snow emergency that doesn't mean everybody should stay off of the streets except for postal workers.
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post #2 of 7
7/20/10 at 1:44pm
I know of only one instance where it's true that the police don't have the jurisdiction they might think they have.

That's the interstate highway system. A federal truck or a federal load is not required to adhere to local laws, if they are specifically instructed not to.

For example, at the start of Desert Shield/Desert Storm, we were working for a munitions hauler. They had 5 loads of munitions at Fort Drum, NY, that had to get to NC in a hurry. They couldn't get in 5 trucks, only four. So, they split the 5th load between the four trucks, which meant every truck was a few thousand pounds overweight. Then they gave us an exemption letter, put the slowest truck in the lead, told us to stick together, fuel whenever the any truck needed fuel, stay in the middle lane, go as fast as we could, and ignore weigh stations, and throw away our log books (keep in mind all of them were team trucks, so we could swap off and stay rested enough).

During the entire length of that operation, we had an exemption letter to use if we needed it. Several state troopers ended up in federal lock-ups when they tried to throw their weight around, and several states were threatened with the loss of the use of their interstates if they continued to harass us.

But that was a special situation, one I doubt we're likely to see again.

By the way, many states seem to have forgotten who built the interstates, why, and who they belong to.
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post #3 of 7
7/20/10 at 1:48pm
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
I know of only one instance where it's true that the police don't have the jurisdiction they might think they have.

That's the interstate highway system. A federal truck or a federal load is not required to adhere to local laws, if they are specifically instructed not to.

For example, at the start of Desert Shield/Desert Storm, we were working for a munitions hauler. They had 5 loads of munitions at Fort Drum, NY, that had to get to NC in a hurry. They couldn't get in 5 trucks, only four. So, they split the 5th load between the four trucks, which meant every truck was a few thousand pounds overweight. Then they gave us an exemption letter, put the slowest truck in the lead, told us to stick together, fuel whenever the any truck needed fuel, stay in the middle lane, go as fast as we could, and ignore weigh stations, and throw away our log books (keep in mind all of them were team trucks, so we could swap off and stay rested enough).

During the entire length of that operation, we had an exemption letter to use if we needed it. Several state troopers ended up in federal lock-ups when they tried to throw their weight around, and several states were threatened with the loss of the use of their interstates if they continued to harass us.

But that was a special situation, one I doubt we're likely to see again.

By the way, many states seem to have forgotten who built the interstates, why, and who they belong to.
Aren't the munitions haulers armed? Just curious...I always thought they were. It was a long time ago but I remember talking to munitions hauler one night while helping to guard the ASP (ammunition supply point) on Fort Riley. I thought he said they could carry weapons. I could be wrong though.
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post #4 of 7
7/20/10 at 2:14pm
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During the entire length of that operation, we had an exemption letter to use if we needed it. Several state troopers ended up in federal lock-ups when they tried to throw their weight around, and several states were threatened with the loss of the use of their interstates if they continued to harass us.
hah hah!!! sorry i cant resist

it's just when i think about it, i imagine they exit jail as better people. i bet they were acting all obstinate and very non-human/not nice at the time. they think that (expletive) behavior is cool but it's NOT! By better I mean more human and not so closed-minded to the point of thinking they can't POSSIBLY be wrong (not even a fraction of a percent)

nice is nice and
not nice is not nice!
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post #5 of 7
7/20/10 at 4:15pm
Whether the Postal worker has to answer to the police or not (which of course he does), it's against the rules for us to speed, drive without a seatbelt, run a stop sign, and wear headphones while driving (I never knew you weren't supposed to use an alley as a through street....it's done all the time in my town. Maybe it's a Chicago thing?). Hmmm....seems to me he wouldnt WANT to meet a Postal Inspector, I'd rather deal with the local cops, personally. What a jerk.
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post #6 of 7
7/21/10 at 9:11pm
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Originally Posted by Essayons89 View Post
Aren't the munitions haulers armed? Just curious...I always thought they were. It was a long time ago but I remember talking to munitions hauler one night while helping to guard the ASP (ammunition supply point) on Fort Riley. I thought he said they could carry weapons. I could be wrong though.
Yes, we always carried a riot gun.

I think that has been dropped for a panic button on the satellite communication systems.

What many people have seen, but not recognized, were the haulers moving nuclear weapons. I haven't seen them in quite a while, though.

I COULD tell you some funny stories, though.

But for a mailman to tell the police they don't have jurisdiction over him, man, what a maroon.
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post #7 of 7
7/27/10 at 10:57am
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(I never knew you weren't supposed to use an alley as a through street....it's done all the time in my town. Maybe it's a Chicago thing?).
It's a law here too, though many still do it. I really don't understand the rational behind that particular law though, other than that it might prove to be an inconvenience to local residents who have to access their parking via the alley.
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