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My CRF Coco is sick and will not eat

post #1 of 29
7/9/10 at 9:38am
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I think her numbers might be worse and she keeps coughing and will not really eat anything.
We are going to the vet later.
I am scared she will not get better this time.
She cries when I pick her up and her nose if stuffed no matter what the vet tries.
The vet did say she may have CHF now and may need heart meds.
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post #2 of 29
7/9/10 at 9:42am
It is so scary when they won't eat. I hope the vet and you are able to find something to help her.
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post #3 of 29
7/9/10 at 9:46am
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Thanks
We have tried to Doxi twice to get rid of the problem but it does not help.
She also has been on Baytril for over a year to stop her bladder infections which has worked.

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post #4 of 29
7/9/10 at 10:21am
I am sorry Coco is sick. Please let us know what you find out. Prayers for you and your cat.
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post #5 of 29
7/9/10 at 10:35am
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Thanks I will let you know.
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post #6 of 29
7/9/10 at 12:01pm
Praying for Coco and thinking of you both, update when you find something out
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post #7 of 29
7/9/10 at 12:07pm
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Thanks,
The vet is at 1:40.
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post #8 of 29
7/9/10 at 5:27pm
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Thanks Everyone,
Cocos CRF is worse and now she is anemic.
I am going to do 100 ml of fluids twice a day for the next 2 days then she will stay at the vet for a few days and get a I.V. if this does not help.
These are her numbers from Jan 2009
her bun is 80 H
Crea 5.0 H
phos 8.0 H
Cal 14.6 H
Here are April 2009
bun 60.3 H
Crea 2.6 H
Phos 5.8
Cal 12.0 H
Total Protein 7.3
Albumin 3.4
Globulin 3.9
and todays
bun 78.3 H
Crea 3.0 H
Phos 7.6 H
Cal 10.5
Total Protein 7.1
Albumin 3.2
Globulin 3.9
She now has Anemia
HCT 19.9% L (25.0-45.0)
HGB 7.4 L (8.0-15.0
RDW% 22% H (14.0-18.0)
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post #9 of 29
7/9/10 at 5:46pm
Awww... poor Coco... Poor mommy
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post #10 of 29
7/9/10 at 5:59pm
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Thanks Carolina
I hope the fluids help this weekend and the new meds.
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post #11 of 29
7/9/10 at 7:51pm
Poor Coco!
Sending lots of good that the fluids help and she's feeling better soon.
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post #12 of 29
7/9/10 at 8:28pm
I'm going through the same thing with Dusty, and as much as it hurts, I'm not going to put her through needles and forced feeding. Dusty is anemic too, and I'm giving her raw chicken liver, which she will eat, along with her favorite kibble and water is always available. I don't think she will make it until fall, but as skinny as she is, she still wants to go outside, and she can still get over the fence and up on my bed. Once I see that she is uncomfortable, I'll consider ending it - but she is not ready yet.

I'm sorry for your Coco. Sometimes love is just not enough.
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post #13 of 29
7/9/10 at 8:41pm
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Thanks Everyone,
Coco is fine with needles.
She even purrs when she gets fluids so it is fine.
I have been doing it for 1.5 years.
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post #14 of 29
7/9/10 at 9:09pm
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Originally Posted by mews2much View Post
Thanks Everyone,
Coco is fine with needles.
She even purrs when she gets fluids so it is fine.
I have been doing it for 1.5 years.
You are a wonderful meowmy for Coco Jacky She is very very lucky to be your girl, and she purrs because she knows you are doing what is best for her She can feel how much you love her
I always observe my kitties when they take injections at the vet, and they don't seem to mind either... as though they don't really feel it - I think the fear of needle is more psychological then anything - that is our fear, not their IMHO.
I hope she gets well soon
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post #15 of 29
7/9/10 at 10:25pm
I'm sorry she is anemic. Do you give pet tinic or any type of supplement? The one I use is NutriVed B-Complex Plus Iron liquid by Vedco. All I can say is Boo's hct was at 13% and then the next test said it was 19%. There was about a month's difference between the two tests I believe.

Vibes for Coco
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post #16 of 29
7/9/10 at 10:42pm
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The vet wants to repeat the test after the monday and if still bad do a i.v. for 2 days.
She just threw up again.
Thanks Carolina I got your pm and will respond on fb since the pms are full.
The vet has not suggested that yet.
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post #17 of 29
7/9/10 at 11:11pm
I hope she starts to feel better soon
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post #18 of 29
7/10/10 at 6:54am
I hope Coco improves over the weekend. Some cats just can't tolerate a lot of messing about, and it becomes a quality of life issue. I'm glad Coco is not one of them.Keep us posted.


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I'm going through the same thing with Dusty, and as much as it hurts, I'm not going to put her through needles and forced feeding. Dusty is anemic too, and I'm giving her raw chicken liver, which she will eat, along with her favorite kibble and water is always available. I don't think she will make it until fall, but as skinny as she is, she still wants to go outside, and she can still get over the fence and up on my bed. Once I see that she is uncomfortable, I'll consider ending it - but she is not ready yet.

I'm sorry for your Coco. Sometimes love is just not enough.
I'm sorry to read this about Dusty. It does sometimes just get to the point where you have to say enough is enough.

I did that with Ootay (rb 5/09) her last few months. She was fine with getting fluids and taking all her meds and for many years the vet trips and blood taking didn't seem to faze her much.

Then one day as I was putting her in the carrier to bring her to the vet for yet another blood draw, she cried. She never cried before when being put in the carrier. At that point I said, okay, Ootay this is the last time, I promise, and when we got to the vet I told my vet that I would not be doing any more blood draws, blood pressure checks or anything else that involved vet visits, because Ootay told me she was tired of it.

So her last five months were spent staying home and living her life in peace (continued with home care of fluids and meds of course, but no more trips to the vet until the final one)
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post #19 of 29
7/10/10 at 9:40am
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Thanks Everyone,
The only thing Coco hates is eye meds which she had for a runny eye a few months ago.
Everything else she is ok with.
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post #20 of 29
7/11/10 at 5:24am
Thinking about Coco
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post #21 of 29
7/11/10 at 4:44pm
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Thanks
she threw up again but did eat some food.
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post #22 of 29
7/11/10 at 5:26pm
Jacky have you tried any Pepcid for the nausea/vomiting? Samson was on it, as well as Reglan...they helped a lot. When Sam was critically anemic (hemoglobin 3.7) our vet suggested transfusion, but we couldn't afford the $2000+. We started Epogen, and his hgb was up to 12.8 within 3 weeks. We were able to stabilize him for a year before his kidneys stopped responding to it.

Just remember....that much fluids will cause the anemia to appear worse. It will dilute the blood more. You should have your vet do a CBC with reticulocyte count to see if it is non-regenerative anemia. If it is, the only thing that can really reverse it would be an erythropoieten type drug. Sometimes a steroid, such as Winstrol, can stimulate red blood cell production, but it isn't as dependable as Epogen.

Have you tried cyproheptadine (Periactin) as an appetite stimulant for Coco? It worked very well for Sam and it also works for Cleo. The effective dose for them was 1/4 pill, twice a day. It is an antihistimine, so it might also be helpful for Coco's stuffy nose. Ask your vet if it could be appropriate for her.

Good luck. I will be keeping you and Coco in my prayers.
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post #23 of 29
7/11/10 at 6:06pm
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Thanks
My Stripe was on Winstrol and Epogen when she had CRF.
She was saved by blood transfusions a few times.
Coco does have Pepcid now.
The vet said to give her 1/4 a pill twice a day.
I have not tried cyproheptadine (Periactin.
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post #24 of 29
7/11/10 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
I hope Coco improves over the weekend. Some cats just can't tolerate a lot of messing about, and it becomes a quality of life issue. I'm glad Coco is not one of them.Keep us posted.




I'm sorry to read this about Dusty. It does sometimes just get to the point where you have to say enough is enough.

I did that with Ootay (rb 5/09) her last few months. She was fine with getting fluids and taking all her meds and for many years the vet trips and blood taking didn't seem to faze her much.

Then one day as I was putting her in the carrier to bring her to the vet for yet another blood draw, she cried. She never cried before when being put in the carrier. At that point I said, okay, Ootay this is the last time, I promise, and when we got to the vet I told my vet that I would not be doing any more blood draws, blood pressure checks or anything else that involved vet visits, because Ootay told me she was tired of it.

So her last five months were spent staying home and living her life in peace (continued with home care of fluids and meds of course, but no more trips to the vet until the final one)
I told Dusty I wouldn't take her to the vet again either. I even found a vet that makes house calls, so when it's her time I will have that vet come to the house.

Dusty has lost a lot of weight, but she isn't vomiting. She is still eating, but just not too much. She is doing better than she did a couple of weeks ago.

I'm sorry to hear Coco isn't doing well. I hope she will rebound and be good for awhile longer.
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post #25 of 29
7/12/10 at 11:19am
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Took Coco to the vet and she has to stay for at least 2 days on a I.V.
Her numbers were slightly better.
We also talked about doing a blood transfusion in the future and Epogen. for the anemia.
She hardly has ate anything but did not throw up yesterday.
I hope she will be ok.
I lost Stripe to CRF in 2000.
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post #26 of 29
7/13/10 at 12:09pm
I'm just catching up on this post since I've been gone for a few days. So sorry to hear Coco has taken a turn for the worse. Hopefully the IV will help and she'll be home and feeling better soon. I'm guessing she's not eating because she's so stuffed up that she can't smell her food? That would explain the coughing too. AT least her BUN hasn't changed drastically, it's just the anemia that is concerning at this point, is that what the IV is for?

Anyway, many vibes for her to be home soon, back in your loving arms.
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post #27 of 29
7/13/10 at 12:14pm
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Thanks,
It is the CRF making her not want to eat.
The I.V. is for the CRF.
The vet wants to keep her until tomorrow afternoon and then do another blood test.
The vet said she does not need a transfusion yet or epigen but she will start taking Pet Tinic.
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post #28 of 29
7/13/10 at 12:31pm
Hmm. I've never quite understood why CRF makes cats lose their appetites. I know they are all so very thin, but don't understand the correlation. Whatever it is, it's just a good thing Coco is such a good patient! So, what the IV for? Is it just fluids, but instead of 100 cc's twice a day, they will be going in at a slow pace constantly? Maybe I need to go back and read this thread a little slower, as I probably missed something in my hurry to catch up on everything.
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post #29 of 29
7/13/10 at 1:27pm
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The I.V. is so we can try to get her numbers to come down.
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