Chynna - One more summer

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I needed to get Chynna's medications refilled before I board her in July. Her health is declining.

Her known medical problems:

Hypertension
Hyperthyroid
Renal Failure

Her renal failure is not being treated because she won't eat a renal diet. She is the type of cat that will literally go days and days without eating anything, rather than eat something she doesn't like. So the vet and I agreed that it would best to just let her eat what she wants, regardless of how "good" it is for her.

I have been giving her Tapazol for her hyperthyroidism. Unfortunately that Iodine 125 treatment is not available where I live so Tapazol is the only treatment she can have. Unfortunately I can't pill her because 1. I'm not good at it 2) She fights me 3) She ends up afraid of me 4) and I don't want to stress her out and make her afraid of me. So I mix her medications into a small amount of food in the morning, and when she's licked that up, then I give her her regular breakfast. Unfortunately she doesn't always finish what I put her pills into, so she isn't getting regular doses of her medication.

She is on Norvasc for her Hypertension, and again, she doesn't always finish up the food with the medication, so she doesn't get full doses on a regular basis because sometimes she doesn't eat the food I put down.

The vet refused to just simply refill the prescriptions until they saw her.

I took her today and she's lost almost 4 pounds in a year. She weighs 2.68 kg (5.8 pounds). Her heart rate is 40 beats above the max normal...or 280 bpm. She also felt some thickening in the bowl, which she said could be stool.

Anyway, when I explained Chynna's situation to the doctor she didn't bother doing blood pressure or blood work (which I told them when they refused to renew my scripts over the phone), because at this point it's about comfort for her. And based on what I told her she knows that Chynna isn't getting her full regular doses of her medications, so there is no point doing blood work or blood pressure when neither will be accurate and that she knows will be high.

So we have a bit of a plan.

Instead of giving her the Tapazole pills for her thyroid, which is the one thing that is important to get under control, we are going to try a compound that I apply to her ear. The dose won't be regular like it would be in pills, but it's hardly regular now since she isn't eating all of her "pilled food" everyday anyway, and sometimes none at all.

If her hyperthyroid is brought more under control, her blood pressure will drop down and her heart rate will decrease too. However, it will also advance her renal failure further.

I suspect that there are other things wrong that we haven't found because Abby is absolutely freaked about Chynna coming remotely near her and she growls and hisses and spits, and the hair on her back just stands straight up. She's always been weary of Chynna, but never like this. And they say cats know when someone is sick...that they can sense it. I suspect that is what is going on with Abby...she knows Chynna is sicker than we all realize.

I promised my baby that I would let her go when her health started to fail and her quality of life was declining, but at a point where she still has a quality of life. I don't want my last memories of my baby girl to be of her sick and dying.

Right now she hardly eats. She still drinks well, pees and poops. But she is getting weaker. It takes her a couple tries to jump onto the couch, and she is so small that you can practically push her over with your finger. She still loves to cuddle and gives hugs and kisses. But each week I notice a decline in her.

I am going to go ahead and board her as planned while I am in the hospital. And I want her with me for my recovery because she is such a caring kitty. And I want all of the nose kisses that she can give me! But I've decided that I'm going to spend the summer building memories and taking pictures, and in the fall let her go to the rainbow bridge.
 
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Originally Posted by mews2much

Is the Norvasc compounded?
Cocos is and I just squirt it in her mouth.
She still fights with liquids too. And I absolutely refuse to hold her down and force things on her. That causes too much stress for both her and I.
 

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Have you tried the pill pockets? Or does she not like them? I've heard of people taking more addicting soft treats that their cats like and hollowing them out a little and slipping pills into those. (I think someone used those pounce treats?) It's worth a shot if you haven't tried it.


Have you made a little scrap book for Chynna, yet? With her health deteriorating how it is, maybe it would be time make a little memorial to her.
 

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Neighbors cat was getting a flavored liquid and she told me she put it in with the cats wet food...cat was 16 or so and never an issue
 

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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca

She still fights with liquids too. And I absolutely refuse to hold her down and force things on her. That causes too much stress for both her and I.
Just a thought: I used to go through this with Bugsy, until that I started using a cat bag to hold him during meds, and it has been a life saver for both of us. There is no longer stress at all involved on giving him meds - in fact, he learned to like the bag - I just open it up and he goes right into it. The bag holds him tight and leaves both my hands free to squirt the meds into his mouth. It takes me seconds to give him his meds. I have used with Hope and Lucky with the same success.

Before the bag he used to run away from me all the time, and we both dragged medicine time as the worst evil. Since the bag, he is a love bug, as it has eliminated ALL the stress with medicating him. If I show him the meds, yes, he will run away but as long as I hold him and open the bag on the floor, and then prepare the meds he is completely fine. It has a calming effect on him. It has literally saved my relationship with Bugsy, and I can not say too many good things about it.

The first one I bought is called Klaw Kontrol bag and you can get it online. Lots of vets use it. I have since changed brands as Bugsy is too big for their X-Large, but IMO that is the best one...

Just a thought it might work!
 

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Also, only a thought here, and sorry you are going through this, have you tried the Hi-Tor Neo canned food? I get it through PetFoodDirect.com and it is the only Low Phos Low Protein kidney food he will eat. He loves the stuff. Just a thought.

Still sorry you and Chynna are going through this...
 
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Originally Posted by strange_wings

Have you tried the pill pockets? Or does she not like them? I've heard of people taking more addicting soft treats that their cats like and hollowing them out a little and slipping pills into those. (I think someone used those pounce treats?) It's worth a shot if you haven't tried it. Also, she is nearly toothless, so it makes it even more difficult for her to eat more solid type foods.


Have you made a little scrap book for Chynna, yet? With her health deteriorating how it is, maybe it would be time make a little memorial to her.
Chynna is very particular about her food. She is hit and miss with treats. One day she likes them, another she doesn't. I've tried all kinds, nothing is a guaranty like with her. Plus she is a chewer, always has been. Hiding things in food is not an option because she will chew it, taste the pill and spit it out. Tried it with all kinds of people food that she likes, and it doesn't go over well at all.

Originally Posted by catsallaround

Neighbors cat was getting a flavored liquid and she told me she put it in with the cats wet food...cat was 16 or so and never an issue
She is very picky. Plus she isn't a big eater anymore. If she eats one of those little cans of cat food...I'm talking those single serving ones, in a whole day, she's doing well. It's hard to hide things in her food and have her consume the entire portion in front of her, yet if you don't put enough food to cover the taste, she won't eat it at all. So as a result she leaves 1/2, sometimes more or less on the plate.

Originally Posted by Carolina

Just a thought: I used to go through this with Bugsy, until that I started using a cat bag to hold him during meds, and it has been a life saver for both of us. There is no longer stress at all involved on giving him meds - in fact, he learned to like the bag - I just open it up and he goes right into it. The bag holds him tight and leaves both my hands free to squirt the meds into his mouth. It takes me seconds to give him his meds. I have used with Hope and Lucky with the same success.

Before the bag he used to run away from me all the time, and we both dragged medicine time as the worst evil. Since the bag, he is a love bug, as it has eliminated ALL the stress with medicating him. If I show him the meds, yes, he will run away but as long as I hold him and open the bag on the floor, and then prepare the meds he is completely fine. It has a calming effect on him. It has literally saved my relationship with Bugsy, and I can not say too many good things about it.

The first one I bought is called Klaw Kontrol bag and you can get it online. Lots of vets use it. I have since changed brands as Bugsy is too big for their X-Large, but IMO that is the best one...

Just a thought it might work!
I've thought of those, but it still entails restraining her, and I won't do that to her.... or to me.

Originally Posted by Snickerdoodle

Also, only a thought here, and sorry you are going through this, have you tried the Hi-Tor Neo canned food? I get it through PetFoodDirect.com and it is the only Low Phos Low Protein kidney food he will eat. He loves the stuff. Just a thought.

Still sorry you and Chynna are going through this...
Not that particular brand. But I've tried a dozen other kinds, and she just won't eat them. She likes what she likes, and that's it, and it usually entails fish, which is not so good for cats with renal failure. Also, she's stage 3 already, once she starts getting a more regular dose of Tapazole, it will advance the kidney disease even quicker... the year she's been on it it's already advanced considerably. A renal diet won't really help her at this point, at least not very much. Ideally she should have been on one several years ago, but like I said, she won't eat any of it. I've even tried making the homemade type with rice and ground beef. Nope. She licks it and leaves all of the solid stuff behind, even the ground beef because she is mostly toothless and I guess it's hard for her to chew the ground beef and must get caught all around inside her little mouth.

I'm ok with my decision. And I think she is too. I'm sad, but to be honest, I've never had a cat live to this age before so I've been preparing myself for a few years already that this day would one day come.

That's a good idea about the scap book. I will make one. I'll have time when I'm off on sick leave, so that will be my project.

Thanks for the thoughts and well wishes for me and Chynna.
 

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to you and Chynna. I'm so sorry you're going through this.
No advice, just lots and lots of good that the two of you can have a wonderful summer.
 
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