Boo-Boo's getting his Epogen! (Health updates)

Sounds like he enjoyed eating without his teeth hurting. Spooky eats very little dry (which also contributes to the problem, because the dry food helps remove the tartar when they chew... but she also doesn't chew the dry, she swallows it whole, so... ).

I would be worried about an infection in there.... I'd call the vet to discuss when the next visit should be. Those teeth sound like they may need to be looked at sooner rather than later.

I called the vet this morning and she will call me back, she is out today, about getting a schedule going for his PCV, another vet was consulted over the phone and said he shouldn't have to come back in for another 2 weeks for a PCV because "it will drop slowly", and MY vet Dr. Pierce will call me back about the teeth. She looked at them one of the last times we were there, but was more concerned about everything else going on at the time. We will definitely get it taken care of soon. And I will finally found out if any tooth was left in there. If it was I'm certainly taking some action there, that's just the last straw. I'll have to put him under with the gas because of his kidneys and I'm a little worried about that, since he's always had the other stuff. *sigh* Ok ok don't get ahead of myself here.

Thanks guys He's eaten a whole can already, it's gone, now we're waiting on the delivery (It's tracking as in the city, should be here anytime.... COME ON Brown!!!)

for Boo - and for his food!

Well, we may have another issue at hand, and I think if it's anything it is either struvite crystals or his stones. I am not sure. I went to clean the pans a bit ago and noticed a small puddle of liquid on the plastic near the pans. It looked red, but I say looked because we have gold shag carpet in there and bad lighting. When I sopped it up with toilet tissue and a baby wipe, it was not red but a light tannish color. I am not sure what to make of that but I will contact the vet ASAP. Otherwise, he was very active, he is trotting everywhere he goes, he scratched on his 2x4 many times today with lots of energy, he's eaten well and has loved resting on his blankie, not to mention he's had a good bit of water today. Fluids went well. His breathing is normal and deep but not harsh. .. I'm just not sure. I am fairly sure his teeth are hurting him and I have not brushed them again for fear of making it worse.

I will update once I talk to the vet. Thank you all

That's no problem hon it's okay

Boo is feeling better this morning and ate fridged Hi Tor all on his own! (I heated it up for 9 seconds and mixed it up good) I was surprised. It was the last in the can and he actually ate it.

His fluids went awry today, he kept crawling away from me and the needle came out right as I was almost done, but I went ahead and gave him a smidge more in the other side because I think he may be dehydrated. (Well, more so than usual, as I guess a CRF cat is always a little bit dehydrated)

Why is it that we get a bad string of Mommy sticking Boo in the wrong places? That is so frustrating, I've been doing it for four months now!

Thanks guys

No. After the amforal thing, she only mentioned Buprenex for any pain he might have, which he may need now that the teeth thing is going on. But I will have to go over everything with her at the next appt, which will be tomorrow if they are open or Tuesday at the latest. Since he didn't have any infection in his Urinary tract we hadn't talked about Antibiotics. But the teeth will be the main focus on the next visit, along with his PCV.

Also, does anyone have an idea of how long it should take for 110 (One hundred ten) mL to be absorbed? I gave Boo his fluids at 9 this morning and they are nearly gone now. Worries me a bit, I will also ask the vet about this too

Thank you I try to always update his weebly (graysonsedge.weebly.com) so if you don't see one here it is most likely there and I am very busy so cannot update as much as possible

He is drinking water throughout the day, I think it may have increased since his over-hydration went away. He had a very small pouch of it around 4 this afternoon, but now it's gone and has been gone. So within 6 hours he used up 90% of the 110 mL I gave him. Before, his 200mL was going within 12, but then he was not absorbing them as well (then the over hydration happened)

I guess I will talk to the vet about upping it a bit, see what she says. and the buprenex definitely, if we can't work out the dental issue just yet. (X-rays, extractions, I don't want him to have to have all his teeth pulled!!! )

Just a pic I got of him a little while ago while he got up to eat. He looks mad but he's just a bit sleepy. Black and white because I was trying not to use the flash (bad light in here)

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/DSCN3101.jpg

Awwwww....! I LOVE him!

OMG is he a cutie pie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (He does look grumpy - but such a CUTE grumpy! )

Just letting you guys know, after he ate some wet food, he sat in his box and sounded like he was cracking his teeth, it was such an odd noise I took him into the bathroom intending to try to brush them gently, but found a small amount (all that could fit apparently!) of food in his extraction site from his lower canine!!! Food shouldn't be getting down in there after this LONG!!! I am so mad.
I got a q-tip and some toilet paper, and a syringe with water and gently wiped it as much as he would let me, and finally this piece the size of maybe 1/4 of an eraser head came out, and it STUNK!!! Just like a dead animal omg... it was horrible. Another small piece came out. It was white and hard like food. It reminds me a lot of tonsililiths that I used to get back in the day, where food would get stuck in the back of my throat, rot and mix with mucus and bacteria and eventually get coughed up to smell the exact same way, but only if you squished it.

This just smelled. ewwwwww...... anyway. I am hoping it feels a LITTLE better... still waiting on Dr. Pierce to call, should be anytime now. He's sitting here purring.

No wonder he wants little bite size dry pieces, so he doesn't have to worry about it getting all over his mouth. Just swallows em. The wet is a problem for him. We're going to get this fixed PRONTO!!!

What a good boy he was to let you prod around in his mouth that way! And how wonderful that you were able to dislodge whatever that was. But good thing you have a Vet appt, because this stuff is not something to be messed with. I'm sure you know bad teeth problems can cause all sorts of other issues.

And I LOVE this latest picture. It's ADORABLE. I usually think he looks mad, and for some reason, I don't get that feeling looking at this one. He just looks precious

Bad news. I took Boo into see Dr. Pierce. She looked in his mouth and wanted to take an X Ray to make sure there wasn't any tooth or root left in his there. X-Ray comes back, guess what? Not only are there large shards of root/tooth left in the extraction site of the canine, but the old vet SEVERED three other tooth's roots when he took it out! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!? Boo has been in really bad pain ever since then and it took this for me to really realize how bad it was.
So, he's on Buprenex every 8 hours for one week and Clyndamyacin 1mL once a day for a week. I have until then to get my old vet to reimburse me and if not, I'll have to have it done at the new vet's, but she recommended me having it done at an actual specialized animal dentistry place in Greensboro, which is a slight drive away from me. He will have to be hospitalized for 3 days and it will cost between 600-800 dollars. This is at the vet's, not at the specialty place. She is working on getting an estimate from there. Also, she is putting together a file of facts and what she has seen, and notes, to take to my old vet along with the X-Ray in order to convince him of what he's done (along with the Amforal issue) and have him pay to have this fixed.

I wanted to cry when I saw the X-ray. It was obvious how bad it was, and then to see the 3 tiny teeth in front just sliced beneath, she told me she wanted to cry, too. It was pretty bad. She also admitted she was angry and I am too.

I just feel so lost right now. They said they would work with me on the payments of this issue. It wasn't even closed up, guys. It has been WIDE OPEN since he had it done last year. This is why I say when the old vet said "Oh he probably just has some food down in there" I can't believe I didn't see red flags! I was told you were supposed to put a "peridontal flap" over it and sew it closed (Which is what they did to ME when I had my wisdom teeth taken out!) but noooooooo not so much as that! Just left it wide open! And the teeth that were cut at the root (the 3 small in the front next to his canine), she said it looked like he used a drill and just, slice!! As he was getting the canine out! I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS!!!

This cat has been through TOO MUCH already. Now I am wondering if I should even put him through this? It wouldn't be too horrible, really, but I am so confused as to what I should really do next. He came home and before I could get the Buprenex in him he ate a load of Purina One. Now he is sleeping. My poor Boo. He is just so tired, I know he is.

So we have stones, an enlarged kidney, CRF, and a mouth in real bad shape. He was so dazed after the Isofluerene, I was surprised, I thought he would come out of it really quick, but it took longer than I expected and he's still a little wobbly even now (We had this done at about 9:00AM, it was over at 9:30 and at about 10:00 he was still wobbly and I just got home about 11AM and he was just a bit wobbly)

I am so heartbroken thinking that maybe it would be better to not do this. I do not know what to do. The only thing I do know is my mother is just as mad as I am, and she is demanding to go with me when I see the old vet, and she's going to really raise heck. The steps after that if he refuses are contacted the Veterinary Board and then of course, court.

Please send vibes for Boo that his Buprenex helps with his pain and the antibiotics help his suffering a bit.

Thank you guys so much.

Well, IMHO, I think the old Vet should pay for the entire cost of having this corrected at the specialized clinic, and should also be paying for his current pain meds and antibiotics, as well as the X-ray and office visit for today! And if he agrees to that, then why not get it done? Are you worried about Boo surviving the surgery? What does Dr. Pierce think his chances are? Good?

Anyway, poor Boo! When you post this info on his weebly, maybe the donations will start pooring in (even if the old Vet pays), because people out there want Boo to start feeling better, and CRF kitties can live a long time if other issues can get resolved. Especially if his anemia is getting better. Did she test for that again, or was this strictly a "tooth" visit?

Oh poor Boo Boo! Not knowing anything about stones and CRF in cats, I don't know what to say. He's been suffering, the poor boy - but it sure seems like he's a little fighter and NOT a complainer or it wouldn't have gone this long. Knock wood, he's responding so well to just the vitamins. This new vet really seems like she knows what she's doing, and if she thinks he's going to have a happy life under your care if his teeth are taken of (though of course there's no way to know how his anemia and CRF will go), then I'd do it.

But this advice is coming from someone who would spend their last nickel on a cat, sell everything (except what the cats need), and eat earthworms if I had to, and work the next decade to pay off vet bills.

Yes, I've already applied for a line of credit at the Vet's. I owe them 69 dollars and paid them 60 from today, part of it from me and part of it from Mom. This was strictly a tooth visit today, so no pcv. And yes, LDG, I am someone who will spend my last nickel on my baby too, but I was just concerned that putting him through this wouldn't be fair.

As for reimbursement and paying to have this done, .. heh, they'll be lucky if my mother doesn't tear the place down going in. We don't deal with things the same way, I go in, say what I want, if they say no, I tell them what I'll do next. She will yell and scream and throw a fit. I never thought her way was a good way, but.. I dunno, she is known to spend years on a single issue until it is dealt with.

Boo is sleeping right now and he ate a bit more purina one before he laid down. He drank some ice water. Went tinkle. I will update again once we talk to the old vet, which will be tomorrow after I pick up the new vet's record on this.
As for his anemia, I don't believe it's gone down because he's still been trotting everywhere and he has not had another episode of collapsing yet. But I will get the test when I can.
Thanks guys so much