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Are we really supposed to feel sorry for her?

post #1 of 21
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I'll be honest. I've never seen her in a movie or anywhere else except the commercials for the idiotic drivel she somehow got the lead role in. But I do not like Kristin Stewart. It has always seemed to me that she would find it confounding to rub two sticks together. Maybe it's the sunken eyes, or the blankness in her stare. Or that she and her boyfriend look like they haven't bathed for weeks any time they appear in public. (Yeah, I admit it...I read TMZ and keep up with the gossip But I am NOT obsessive about it. It's just something mindless to read to unwind for the day.)

But this one really takes the cake: She said that seeing the photos of herself in her day to day life is like seeing watching someone get raped.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-rape-comment/

I get what she's saying. No one needs to spell it out for me. She feels violated by the press & paparazzi.

Still, no one put a gun to her head and made her try out for that role in Twilight. No one made her follow up by auditioning for the role of Joan Jett. No one held a knife to her throat and forced her into acting, or to Hollywood. She wanted to be an actress. Part of being successful, even for your 15 minutes (which I hope is all this Twilight craze lasts for!), is that you lose your own identity and privacy to the bloodsuckers in the press/paparazzi. She doesn't want her private life in the press, and she's done an admirable job of it considering who she's dating and all. But the paparazzi is part and parcel with the job, IMO.

There are at least 1,000 young aspiring actresses who would love to be in her position, press and all. Seriously - look at the "faux-celebrities" who want cameras in every part of their lives (reality shows). And when the show is over, will do anything to stay in the limelight (i.e. Heidi Montag and her additiction to plastics, or the celeb-reality shows that bring them back from the celebrity grave for just one more taste of fame).

Comparing being successful to rape? This isn't like the older Hollywood stars who didn't know anything like this kind of intrusion until recently. She KNEW what she was walking into, and if she didn't then she's more of a moron than a chick who can't decide between loving a bat or a wolf.
post #2 of 21
I loved the Twilight books I admit. I have read them all four or five times.
But Kristin Stewart is not a good actress IMO. Yes, there is a blankness to her. She just seems so unemotional.
post #3 of 21
Honestly, her quote was offensive and absurd. Having been sexually assaulted when I was a child, I found her whining to be pathetic and frankly, stupid. It really pissed me off.

But beyond that, I really believe part of the draw to the Twilight saga is the empty character of Bella. There is enough development there to give you a glimpse, but the rest the reader pretty much inserts. I truly feel that the readers identify with Bella's character because they are able to actually insert themselves into that role. But that's just my opinion.

But that would also explain why K-stew's horrible acting doesn't harm the movie too much. I mean, she's playing an empty character, and she's always played an empty character. No need to act when you're devoid of personality.
post #4 of 21
Really? Did you think the Bella Swan in the books is an "empty character?"
post #5 of 21
I say step a foot into her shoes and have mobs of strange men yelling obscene things at you while they invade your personal space and snap pictures at you 24/7. She can go NO WHERE without hiding. She has NO personal privacy at all. I have to admit that I'm quite sick and tired of people coming down on actors in Hollywood because they don't enjoy the invasion of privacy that comes along with wanting an acting career. So because she chose to audition and take a role that led her to this kind of fame, even though she had NO idea that it would, she DESERVES to have her space invaded, be stalked by strangers, have her private life splashed all over every magazine and internet website out there, and have anything she says be twisted to create more drama to have more people stalking her and saying nasty things to her? The invasion of privacy with stars in Hollywood is criminal in my mind and although her comment was a bit over the top, it says a lot about how she feels and the desire she has to just have a normal life and still do the job that she enjoys.

As far as Bella's character, yeah, she has very little personality in the books. I've read them many times and every single time I agree with Bella about why these two guys are fighting tooth and nail for her. I personally don't get it either.
post #6 of 21
I can honestly say I would MUCH rather be poor and anonymous than rich and famous and have to deal with the trashy tabloid media stalking me and lying about me. No way, no how. Not worth it.
post #7 of 21
She just annoys me. Plain & simple - she is like nails on a chalkboard to me.
post #8 of 21
I don't even know who she is. But I know what you mean about people on TV... I love Mike Rowe, but I am getting a bit sick of his ads for cars.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
I don't even know who she is. But I know what you mean about people on TV... I love Mike Rowe, but I am getting a bit sick of his ads for cars.
The more Mike, the merrier! KS's comment is offensive. I hope she gets a lot of backlash for it. Wasn't she in Panic Room (Jodi Foster movie)? I have never seen any Twilights.
post #10 of 21
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Really? Did you think the Bella Swan in the books is an "empty character?"
OMG, I do! Bella as written in the series completely lost herself to Edward. There was no depth, just dependency. I spent the entire series wondering why she was so darned popular.

I think Meyer wanted an "everygirl" that kids could relate to. Bella was written as someone who was nothing special but boys were fighting over her anyway.

Kirstin Stewart? Blah and not pretty, so I guess she fits the character. I don't think Pattinson is remotely attractive enough to be Edward (who at least has some depth).
post #11 of 21
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OMG, I do! Bella as written in the series completely lost herself to Edward. There was no depth, just dependency. I spent the entire series wondering why she was so darned popular.

I think Meyer wanted an "everygirl" that kids could relate to. Bella was written as someone who was nothing special but boys were fighting over her anyway.

Kirstin Stewart? Blah and not pretty, so I guess she fits the character. I don't think Pattinson is remotely attractive enough to be Edward (who at least has some depth).
See, now I think Robert Pattinson makes a great Edward Cullen as far as looks. But I don't think there is anyone on Earth that could do the character justice, as far as the Edward in the books.

I think Pattinson needs to play the part "older", Edward is, after all 90+ years old. He acts that old in the books but Pattinson doesn't play him that way.
post #12 of 21
I need to know more about her before I decide if I like her or not. Is she a cat person or a dog person?

As far as her rape comment... yeah, extremely poor choice of words.
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 
I probably should have named the thread differently. Something like, "Being famous is like being raped?"

I've been raped, as have many on this forum. I'm pretty sure the statistic is 1 out of 4 women is sexually assaulted or raped in their lifetime. To say that her comment about seeing a picture of herself is "like seeing someone being raped" is insensitive and offensive to a good number of her fans as well as women everywhere would be an understatement. It diminishes being a victim of a violent crime, to having a photo taken of you when you would prefer not.

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Originally Posted by carlysmom
I say step a foot into her shoes and have mobs of strange men yelling obscene things at you while they invade your personal space and snap pictures at you 24/7. She can go NO WHERE without hiding. She has NO personal privacy at all. I have to admit that I'm quite sick and tired of people coming down on actors in Hollywood because they don't enjoy the invasion of privacy that comes along with wanting an acting career. So because she chose to audition and take a role that led her to this kind of fame, even though she had NO idea that it would, she DESERVES to have her space invaded, be stalked by strangers, have her private life splashed all over every magazine and internet website out there, and have anything she says be twisted to create more drama to have more people stalking her and saying nasty things to her? The invasion of privacy with stars in Hollywood is criminal in my mind and although her comment was a bit over the top, it says a lot about how she feels and the desire she has to just have a normal life and still do the job that she enjoys.
I never said it was pleasant or comfortable. I'm sure it's not. I certainly never said she deserves it - no one does. You're right that the press' behavior toward celebrities borders on if not is criminal. Or it should be. But it isn't, so they get away with it. I did say, however, that it is pretty much the norm and I think she was minimally naive, at most an idiot, to think that this wouldn't happen. If she was remotely successful in her acting career, it was going to happen. As they say, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.

No one says that their goal in life is to get to middle management and then stop. There are always down sides to success in any field. In film acting you know what it is starting out. She knew what it was starting out. Now she's saying it's like rape?

If she still wanted to act and make a reasonable living without being hounded day and night by the media there were other avenues she could have pursued. Independent films. Television (though a completely different type of work). Stage acting, eventually leading to Broadway. While there are "stars" in each of these venues of acting work, they aren't the norm. If you try out for the lead in a film that is pretty well set for at least 2 sequels, based on an already popular book series, geared toward teenage girls then you had better think that this kind of fame may well be a possibility.

Granted, no one could foresee the whole "Twilight Moms" thing happening. I don't mean that no one over 13 should see it & like it. I mean the ones who are completely and utterly obsessed, esp. with Robert Pattinson & Taylor Lautner.

post #14 of 21
Ha ha, great picture Heidi.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Really? Did you think the Bella Swan in the books is an "empty character?"
Yep, but that isn't to say I didn't gobble the books up, and still re-read them. I enjoy the books, I really do. But they're not literary pieces of art: they're fluff. That's WHY I enjoy them. I also enjoy reading books that have a lot more depth of character, as well as SOME classics. I'll pretty much read anything, but I don't always enjoy what I've read.

And to the OP: http://www.people.com/people/package...391187,00.html At least her people told her to apologize.
post #16 of 21
She wanted success as an actor, and the money that comes along with it, but didn't realize she might become famous, too? She accepted the lead part in movies from books that were already HUGE successes but doesn't want fame? She can't have it both ways. What a jerk with the rape comment, too, oh brother.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
I don't even know who she is. But I know what you mean about people on TV... I love Mike Rowe, but I am getting a bit sick of his ads for cars.
OMG I love me some Mike Rowe!!!! But this other girl you speak of does appear a little comatose. I understand what you're saying. She can have her "fame", but people should never compare anything trivial to being raped!!! She went out after the fame, but a victim of sexual violence never goes out after that.
post #18 of 21
In the sense that it's a violation of personal space maybe, but the magnitude is obviously totally off and either she's an idiot in general or really let her mouth run off its leash there...also, I would hate having the press all over me every waking second too, I'd rather shoot myself than not be able to run to the ladies' room to take a poo without blogs and tabloids speculating as to the size and consistency, but that's why I didn't try to be famous.

Being followed around by paparazzi isn't like rape, it's like that guy in the class you can't drop who was cute at first so you went out a few times and found out he was a jerk and now he keeps sitting next to you. Annoying but not something that's likely to require intensive therapy.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
To say that her comment about seeing a picture of herself is "like seeing someone being raped" is insensitive and offensive to a good number of her fans as well as women everywhere would be an understatement. It diminishes being a victim of a violent crime, to having a photo taken of you when you would prefer not.
Her comment was definitely offensive..though I can see that she may not have meant for it to be offensive, it's so easy to exaggerate to make a point. I like to think she was just careless in what her words might imply.

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But that would also explain why K-stew's horrible acting doesn't harm the movie too much. I mean, she's playing an empty character, and she's always played an empty character. No need to act when you're devoid of personality.

That's what I was thinking also...
Bella had absolutely no qualities to admire and look up to, I never understood why Edward even liked her, she was came through to me as simple, clumsy and weak both physically and mentally...I guess the only quality I can think of to admire is the fact that she doesn't take advantage of Edward's wealth and resists when he buys her things, but that's it.
The books were just soooooo badly written...entertaining; maybe, but I was frustrated while reading because I couldn't stop criticizing them in my head If I hadn't done that I may have enjoyed them more.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
Her comment was definitely offensive..though I can see that she may not have meant for it to be offensive, it's so easy to exaggerate to make a point. I like to think she was just careless in what her words might imply.




That's what I was thinking also...
Bella had absolutely no qualities to admire and look up to, I never understood why Edward even liked her, she was came through to me as simple, clumsy and weak both physically and mentally...I guess the only quality I can think of to admire is the fact that she doesn't take advantage of Edward's wealth and resists when he buys her things, but that's it.
The books were just soooooo badly written...entertaining; maybe, but I was frustrated while reading because I couldn't stop criticizing them in my head If I hadn't done that I may have enjoyed them more.
Well, I guess you didn't peer closely enough inside as Bella ends up confounding the entire Volturi, now doesn't she?
post #21 of 21
I dont like Twilight. I also don't feel bad for her at all.

She's 20, she knew exactly what happens when you become famous. You see it everywhere now, the press and paparazzi are constantly in your face and in your life. You tried out to be the actress, you went through with making the movie, you're rolling in $$ now, but you want your previous life's privacy back. It just doesn't work that way. It's like everyone saying Tiger Wood's stuff shouldn't have been aired.

That rape comment was over the line. I am not a victim of any type of sexual abuse, but even I find that offensive, for those who have dealt with such a terrible incident.
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