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post #1 of 21
5/12/10 at 3:33am
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First off, I don't live in Buffalo. We are 30 miles north. But tomorrow, Buffalo is being "blessed" with a visit from the "savior."

The running joke here is that Air Force One needs another photo op over Niagara Falls like the one in NYC that sent the city into panic mode.

I think that if Jesus chooses tomorrow to come back to earth, it will be the second story on the news....:sigh
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post #2 of 21
5/12/10 at 8:15am
Don't go anywhere near Buffalo tomorrow and if you do, make sure you have your I.D. with you.
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post #3 of 21
5/12/10 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
First off, I don't live in Buffalo. We are 30 miles north. But tomorrow, Buffalo is being "blessed" with a visit from the "savior."

The running joke here is that Air Force One needs another photo op over Niagara Falls like the one in NYC that sent the city into panic mode.

I think that if Jesus chooses tomorrow to come back to earth, it will be the second story on the news....:sigh

No if Jesus comes tomorrow - there will be NO stories - cause it will be the end and the believers will not need to worry about any kind of news page story - we will be celebrating eternity with God and Jesus!
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post #4 of 21
5/12/10 at 9:24am
I guess Presidents travel a lot, although I think I heard this one is far ahead of most of them. It seems like he's always running a campaign, but then, that's been the complaint about U.S. politics for decades.
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post #5 of 21
5/12/10 at 9:37am
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I didn't mean it litterally....just to point out the absurdity of the fawning over this president.
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post #6 of 21
5/12/10 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post

I think that if Jesus chooses tomorrow to come back to earth, it will be the second story on the news....:sigh
Gotta have priorities
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post #7 of 21
5/13/10 at 1:03am
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I didn't mean it litterally....just to point out the absurdity of the fawning over this president.
What "absurdity of the fawning"? You posted no link, no evidence of this supposed "fawning", and as far as we can tell, the only one who referred to him as "savior" was you.
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post #8 of 21
5/13/10 at 2:38am
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I don't need to post a link to support the "fawning". Just watch any newscast or pick up a newspaper. Nothing sticks to this man. He was coming to Washington with his "hope and change" deal. How's that going to work out for you and your children and grandchildren?

Now his spending is crippling the economy, his stance on illegals is putting this country at risk. They say a country is only as strong as its borders....uh oh. He has his fingers in wall street, the banks, auto industry, health care. Can we say "socialism"?

This is the worst, most destructive president in recent history.
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post #9 of 21
5/13/10 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
Now his spending is crippling the economy, his stance on illegals is putting this country at risk. They say a country is only as strong as its borders....uh oh.
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Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA)

Public Law 99-603 (Act of 11/6/86), which was passed in order to control and deter illegal immigration to the United States. Its major provisions stipulate legalization of undocumented aliens who had been continuously unlawfully present since 1982, legalization of certain agricultural workers, sanctions for employers who knowingly hire undocumented workers, and increased enforcement at U.S. borders.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...000ecd190aRCRD

And who signed that mess allowing 3 million illegal immigrants to magically become legal? This has been going on for decades.
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The level of illegal immigration is severely masked by several amnesties that legalized millions of unlawfully resident aliens. The largest amnesty was the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act, which legalized 3 million aliens.

Amnestied aliens to date have been fully eligible to sponsor additional immigrants. This has contributed to the ranks of immigrants, both legal and illegal (and often both).
http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back106.html

ETA: But hey at least Bush didn't get HIS amnesty bill through. With a stroke of his pen he would have made about 10 million illegal aliens into legal immigrants.http://www.rense.com/general49/immig.htm

I always wondered why Bush was so against enforcing the laws about hiring illegal aliens. Maybe some of his Texas buddies were running businesses that depend on cheap labor?
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The eight years of President George W. Bush’s administration saw a marked increase in illegal immigration and a drop in immigration enforcement throughout much of his tenure. For example, the number of illegal aliens arrested in workplace cases fell from nearly 3,000 in 1999 to 445 in 2003, with the number of criminal cases against employers during this period falling from 182 to four.
http://www.endillegalimmigration.com...US/index.shtml
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post #10 of 21
5/13/10 at 10:00am
Reagan opened the immigration flood gates when he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. No President since then has had a serious concern or agenda to tighten the borders. NONE. Now we have an absolute crisis with not only people looking for work at higher wages than they could receive at home, but there are the drug and human traffickers with weapons who are waging war on our citizens and on law enforcement near the borders, with people being killed with regularity.

We need to finish the fence and beef up agents on the border, even if it is the National Guard. No one should be allowed to cross anywhere other than official points of entry, and only with proper scrutiny of passports/visas.
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post #11 of 21
5/13/10 at 11:10am
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...000ecd190aRCRD

And who signed that mess allowing 3 million illegal immigrants to magically become legal? This has been going on for decades.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back106.html

ETA: But hey at least Bush didn't get HIS amnesty bill through. With a stroke of his pen he would have made about 10 million illegal aliens into legal immigrants.http://www.rense.com/general49/immig.htm

I always wondered why Bush was so against enforcing the laws about hiring illegal aliens. Maybe some of his Texas buddies were running businesses that depend on cheap labor?

http://www.endillegalimmigration.com...US/index.shtml
What is Barack's reason for not enforcing immigration laws? Barack's buddies that are part of Chicago's corrupt, political machine?

Both parties are culpable here.
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post #12 of 21
5/13/10 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by Dusty's Mom View Post
We need to finish the fence and beef up agents on the border, even if it is the National Guard. No one should be allowed to cross anywhere other than official points of entry, and only with proper scrutiny of passports/visas.


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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
What is Barack's reason for not enforcing immigration laws? Barack's buddies that are part of Chicago's corrupt, political machine?

Both parties are culpable here.
Since he said something about legalizing 12 million of them he'd certainly have some 'splaining to do if he started trying to toss them out now wouldn't he?

The only possible explanation I see is that the Deomcrats want the voters and the Republicans want the cheap labor. So no one is going to do a dang thing about it.
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post #13 of 21
5/13/10 at 1:14pm
Just curious - how did that Berlin Wall work out for East Germany? I just think a physical wall is just, literally, an impossibility to maintain to the extent necessary. They couldn't even do it in one city - with itchy trigger fingers.
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post #14 of 21
5/13/10 at 1:26pm
We wouldn't be building that wall to keep anyone IN, it would be built to keep people from entering the country illegally. People would still be allowed to enter the United States through border crossing LEGALLY. What is wrong with that?

IMO, it is totally different than the Russians building a wall to keep German inside East Berlin. We are talking about two different COUNTRIES here, not people from a single country, and a single CITY for crying out loud.

We MUST secure our border before we can even think about immigration reform and we need to think about immigration reform.
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post #15 of 21
5/13/10 at 1:30pm
They had guard towers spaced closely and open space on the East side of it so the guards could see anyone who tried to get near the wall.
But the real deterrent was the border between East and West (I lived fairly close to the border for 7-1/2 years.). It was clear land for about a mile, with barbed wire and guard towers.
http://sambamarco.piranho.de/grenze_titel.jpg
It was called the "death strip."
The East Germans also didn't allow anyone to live near the border who was dicey in their politics. If someone was suspicious they got to live in Dresden - where it was also hard to get western radio.
The piece de resistance though was the system they had set up for informal informants - normal citizens who would rat out their "friends" and neighbors to the Stasi.
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post #16 of 21
5/13/10 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post


Both parties are culpable here.

Hear! Hear!
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post #17 of 21
5/13/10 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post



Since he said something about legalizing 12 million of them he'd certainly have some 'splaining to do if he started trying to toss them out now wouldn't he?

The only possible explanation I see is that the Deomcrats want the voters and the Republicans want the cheap labor. So no one is going to do a dang thing about it.
You know what I think, I think BOTH parties want the votes and both parties want the cheap labor.

I don't want him to "toss them out" but the border has to be secured before a path to amnesty can go down. There has been amnesty before, back in the 1980's, Reagan gave 3 million Hispanics amnesty.
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post #18 of 21
5/13/10 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
You know what I think, I think BOTH parties want the votes and both parties want the cheap labor.

I don't want him to "toss them out" but the border has to be secured before a path to amnesty can go down. There has been amnesty before, back in the 1980's, Reagan gave 3 million Hispanics amnesty.
I agree that both parties are equally responsible, but I'm against amnesty. Let them get in the back of the line, and let those that have done it the right way and waited out their 3-5 years go first.

But unless and until we have a tamper proof national ID card, nothing will work because every illegal has all the phony documents they need.
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post #19 of 21
5/16/10 at 2:47pm
I wouldn't walk across the street to see Mr. Obama if he came to this remote place in the country where I live.
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post #20 of 21
5/16/10 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by blueyedgirl5946 View Post
I wouldn't walk across the street to see Mr. Obama if he came to this remote place in the country where I live.

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post #21 of 21
5/18/10 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by farleyv View Post
I don't need to post a link to support the "fawning". Just watch any newscast or pick up a newspaper. Nothing sticks to this man. He was coming to Washington with his "hope and change" deal. How's that going to work out for you and your children and grandchildren?

Now his spending is crippling the economy, his stance on illegals is putting this country at risk. They say a country is only as strong as its borders....uh oh. He has his fingers in wall street, the banks, auto industry, health care. Can we say "socialism"?

This is the worst, most destructive president in recent history.
I can say a lot of words about this post...socialism isn't one of them.
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