I need help firing my cleaning girl!

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I've finally decided that I've had enough of the girl who has been coming to do my cleaning.

I am paying her $15.00 per hour for a minimum of 3 hours work, meaning that she is supposed to be here for 3 hours. Before I hired her I talked to her about what I wanted done each week, and what I wanted done on an as needed basis.

However, from the get go she never stayed 3 hours, and only did the very bare minimum, and not even a complete job of it either. And she's here only about 1 to 1.5 hours max...usually about 1.25 hours.

For example

1. , even though I told her several times that when she dusts I want her to move stuff off of the surface and dust the surface and the items on the table. She does neither. So far as dusting goes, all she does is windex the coffee table, one end table, my dining table, the TV screen and the top of the TV. She doesn't dust the bookcase most days, nor does she dust anything else. My wall pictures had cob webs on them that I had to go and dust off.

2. Nor will she wash the shower chair that sits in my tub, when she cleans the tub. And if the bath mat is still inside the tub, she washes the bottom of the tub around it and doesn't move the mat.

Nor does she wipe the outside of the tub or outside the toilet or the toilet seat, the shower curtain rod, the towel bar or the toothbrush holder (which is not used) on the wall above the sink.

Basically all she does is clean the inside of the sink, the top of the vanity, the inside of the toilet and the bathroom mirror.

3. The only thing she does in my bedroom is the floor, nothing else.

4. One time she did wipe the windowsill in the living room, but the love seat was in front of the window, about 8 inches away from the wall. It sits on those felt leg protectors and I have hardwood floors. So to move the love seat is very easy. Even with my very bad back I can do it easily without any difficulty. Anyway, when she wiped down the sill, she only wiped as far as she could reach without having to move the love seat, so that meant about 4 feet of my windowsill remained unwashed, and it was very noticeable because it hadn't been wiped in several months and had been covered with black dust.

5. She was supposed to wipe out the fridge and clean the oven every 3 months. The fridge was done once only because I asked her to do it, and you should have heard the fuss she made about it. The oven has never been cleaned. And she doesn't wipe down the front of the appliances either.

6. And when I come home I have to go around and clean up after her. She leaves the mop and bucket in the hall by the bathroom, the vacuum in the middle of the living room, the dirty rags on top of my shower chair and cleaning products all over the living room and bathroom. Plus when she pushes the kitchen chairs or moves the table, everything is left where she pushes it and I have to go and rearrange the furniture back to the way it was.

7. The first day she came I had just come back from grocery shopping and the kitchen counters were covered with bags of groceries. I told her to not bother doing the dishes "this time". She took that to mean never. One day my back was really really sore and I had asked her to do the dishes. She kicked up such a fuss and said "I'll wash them but I'm NOT drying them and putting them away!" and then had the audacity to add "You can't do your own dishes?!"

When she first started to come I told her that I have very bad allergies and that I need the floors, area rug and furniture vacuumed! I have that great Dyson Animal which does a wonderful job picking up dust and cat hair/dander. I noticed an improvement in my allergies immediately once I started using that vacuum.

I started at my new job at the end of November and around December or January I started to notice that I was feeling suffed up and was sneezing a lot. I didn't think anything of it.

Two weeks ago I was home sick on a day that she came. Seems she's been doing more shortcuts. She no longer vacuums the floors. Instead she uses an old broom that I have behind the bathroom door that I use to sweep up cat litter from the bathroom floor so I am not walking in sand when in the bathroom. I don't like brooms because they don't get everything and they throw up lots of dust. Also, she doesn't even go inside the closets (the doors are open) or under the bed. Both places had huge balls of fur (not whisps.....balls that had been accumulating for awhile!

Plus she was no longer vacuuming the love seat and my 4 kitchen chairs. She was bringing a lint brush from home and using that instead.

The only thing she did vacuum was the area run in front of the love seat.

No wonder my allergies have been acting up with a vengence!

So basically I have been paying her more money than I make per hour, for her to come here for about 75 minutes to do a half-butt job of cleaning my bathroom, sweeping my floors, mopping my floors, vacuuming the area rug, windexing 3 tables & 1 mirror, and occasionally doing a few dishes tht fit into one drain tray when washed.

My brother knows a girl who has her own cleaning service and apparently she is very good. The rate is the same and she spends 3 hours at your home, and if she gets done the basics, she will look around for things to do IE: fridge, oven, windows, folding laundry, washing baseboards, cleaning inside and outside cupboards etc.

I made an appointment for her to come next Saturday. I want to be here the first time she comes so that I can show her how to work the Dyson. But from what my brother said she sounds amazing.

Now I just need to know what to say to the girl I have coming currently. I had cancelled her visit for last week and this week, and I don't want her to come anymore. She is set to come next week Friday, but the new girl Chris is coming on the Saturday instead.

So what do I say to her? I don't want to hurt her feelings, but at the same time I'm tired of paying for services that I'm not really getting. I know it's my fault, I should have nipped it in the butt when I first noticed it, but she is so defensive and I can't stand confrontation, that I just let it go on because I didn't want to be left in the lurch without someone, because at least she was doing the floors, something that I really have a very hard time doing myself. Even my brother said that it sounds like she has been taking full advantage of me.

There are some people that will feel out a situation and test the waters to see what they can and can't get away with. My brother said that is what she did to me and I was too timid to speak up. So true.

Anyway, what do I tell her?
 

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I would probably just tell her that you noticed when you were home that day she came, that she was not cleaning the house the way she was supposed to be per your instructions. YOU are the one paying her, and she should be doing the job the way it is supposed to be done, since she isn't, I dont see why it would really "hurt" her feelings if you tell her straight out. I think your brother is right, she's gotten lax because she's realized you will still pay her even if she does the half-butt job she's been doing lately. And now you're paying the consequences with your allergies acting up and having to perform some of the tasks yourself that she should be doing.
 
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Originally Posted by Tara & Rob

having to perform some of the tasks yourself that she should be doing.
I'll say. I run around cleaning so that she can come here and clean! I've cancelled a few times in the past because I was too sick and/or sore to do stuff, before she came, so I just cancelled her coming.

I'm heading out to dinner shortly, but I'll think up an email and send it when I get home.

You're right. She knows she will get paid $45.00 for coming here no matter how little time she spends, or how bad of a job she does. My fault completely for not speaking up about it. I set the tone of our relationship and I take full responsibility for it. And to think I used to work as an office manager and had to hire and fire people! I have no idea where my backbone went!!!
 

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Is she with an agency? If she is then you could handle this entirely through them. If not, I would just tell her "this arrangement isn't working out." You don't really have to go into detail as to why. I was put in this similar situation with my mother's housekeeper. If she is taking your money for services she is not preforming, then it's just the same as stealing from you--and you would never allow that! Good luck
 
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Originally Posted by Bellaandme

Is she with an agency? If she is then you could handle this entirely through them. If not, I would just tell her "this arrangement isn't working out." You don't really have to go into detail as to why. I was put in this similar situation with my mother's housekeeper. If she is taking your money for services she is not preforming, then it's just the same as stealing from you--and you would never allow that! Good luck
No. She isn't through an agency. I was paying her privately. Funny you should mention "arrangement not working out". I just came back here after sending an email. I used that exact phrase.
 

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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca

No. She isn't through an agency. I was paying her privately. Funny you should mention "arrangement not working out". I just came back here after sending an email. I used that exact phrase.
IMO, it'd be better to say "I found someone new, so it's time for us to part ways." especially if English isn't her 1st language (Is it?)
 

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I clean houses, (to make ends meet as my real job doens't pay enough to live on). Boy is she taking you! I do the baseboards every single time I clean, along with everything else. I don't do dishes though.


Call her up and be honest, you are unhappy with the quality of her work and have found someone else. The end. If you're lucky you'll get her voice mail or machine.


Cleaning jobs are surprisingly easy to get, I have been able to pick and choose as long as I have been doing this (six years) and I am expensive. But people get what they pay for as I have a high work ethic.

So obviously she doesn't give a darn if she does a good job or not. Sooner or later she'll do herself out of business, as one client after another realizes how awful she is.

PS it amazes me how many people tolerate such shoddy service. The stories I hear when people hear what I do and ask me if I have an opening, and they tell me how awful their current housekeeper is.
 
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Originally Posted by otto

I clean houses, (to make ends meet as my real job doens't pay enough to live on). Boy is she taking you! I do the baseboards every single time I clean, along with everything else.
I used to clean houses too! When I would go and clean someone's house, I would clean to the standard that I would clean my own home, including baseboards, dusty wall vents, and if there was a husband around, I'd let them know that if they pulled out the fridge or stove I'd clean the area behind. Heck, if I saw unfolded laundry or an ironing board, I'd fold laundry and iron too.

I actually like to clean, but my physical health has deteriorated and it's difficult for me to do. Even to do my dishes and cook, I've been having to go back to sitting on an office chair in the kitchen.

That's part of the reason I let her get away with doing so little: I didn't have anyone else lined up to come. And I can't do the work myself. Last year in the summer I posted about how she was driving me crazy and how spoiled she has become with what I have been paying her vs the actual work she has been doing. Now that I have someone else that can come, the decision to let her go is very easy.
 

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Tell her the truth. Tell her you are tired of paying her $45 to clean and then you are having to wipe cobwebs from the pictures on the wall. She needs to know exactly why you are not satisfied.
 

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My mom has owned her own cleaning business since I was a little girl. Even though I don't always see eye to eye with her on other things, I definitely appreciate how hard she works when she is cleaning a customer's home. She always does a good job and leaves those homes looking amazing! I'll put it this way, if she conducted business the way this girl does she would not have a single customer left! On average, she cleans 2-3 houses (depending on the size/schedule) a day and spends at least 4 hours at each house cleaning. She charges different rates depening on what the customer wants done, how long she's been cleaning them, size of the place, gas money for the drive, etc. (She owns her own business and is the only "employee". All of her customers have been acquired through good references and "word of mouth") She's even had some of the same customers since I was a tiny little girl (they'e come to my graduation, big events, even adopted animals I've fostered from me, and always send Christmas presents/etc! ) I used to go with her all of the time during the summer when I was a little girl and watched and "helped" her clean. (I didn't mind as long as I had my puzzles and books!
). My mom always had even the most dirty houses looking amazing by the time she was done! Never any short cuts! If she was behaving the way that your cleaning lady is, she would definitely not have a job or a reference left in this city!

In the future, be careful if you go through a big chain cleaning service. Chains vs. Small Business owners can really be different! I would go with a reputable small business owner - that definitely can make a huge difference in quality! My mom has acquired sooo many customers after they have had horrid experiences with "chain cleaning services" and has had to go in behind them and clean up their shoddy jobs (and then landed some wonderful permenant customers!) If I were you, I would ask around among friends/family/etc who they might know/recommend! If all else fails, you could always check out online websites like "Angies List" http://www.angieslist.com/angieslist...arid=s8fgZjgFs where customers rate different businesses/etc!


I would be polite to the girl that's working for you, but be firm and set your foot down. If she's not doing the job she was hired to do, she does not deserve the pay/job when there is someone else who can do the work you need done (that you're paying them for!) and with a positive attitude! I would try to just keep it polite and strictly think on the business side of things if I were in your shoes.
 

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Seems like you have had this problem before, I hope you finally get a good one soon, you are due!
 

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There is no excuse but laziness on her side. Better luck with the new one!! Ive been cleaning for over 20 years and i have heard and seen it all and then some
I see you mention that you have a dyson and it not being used.. are you sure its not clogged? have you checked the filters lately?
 

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Theres one way of making sure the cleaning is up to your standards, and that's to sack her and do it yourself
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Seriously, they could clean the length and breadth of Buckingham Palace but they wouldn't be able to clean my house to my standards


If it's time that's an issue as to why you can't do it, i polish and wash the bathroom on a wednesday, then thursday is swiff, vacuum and floors washed


I have a gardener though because i hate gardening. My idea of gardening is dead heading the roses and spraying them for greenfly
 
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Originally Posted by ms cat love

There is no excuse but laziness on her side. Better luck with the new one!! Ive been cleaning for over 20 years and i have heard and seen it all and then some
I see you mention that you have a dyson and it not being used.. are you sure its not clogged? have you checked the filters lately?
Nope it's not clogged. I use it and it works absolutely fine. In fact I make sure the canister is empty and it's got good suction, the night before she comes.
 
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Originally Posted by Rosiemac

Theres one way of making sure the cleaning is up to your standards, and that's to sack her and do it yourself
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Seriously, they could clean the length and breadth of Buckingham Palace but they wouldn't be able to clean my house to my standards


If it's time that's an issue as to why you can't do it, i polish and wash the bathroom on a wednesday, then thursday is swiff, vacuum and floors washed


I have a gardener though because i hate gardening. My idea of gardening is dead heading the roses and spraying them for greenfly
I agree totally. However, it's not just a matter of time, it's a matter of health. I am physically not able to do the cleaning. So doing it myself isn't an option. It's all I can do to manage doing my own laundry and dishes during the week.
 

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Don't feel like you're the Lone Ranger on this deal.

Dottie's uncle ran a number of businesses and learned early on that the policy of cleaning companies is to bid low, then come in and do a great job for a few weeks. Then they slack off on one little thing at a time until the business complains, add that one little thing back in, and try another. They will always be pushing to reduce their labor costs by slacking on their customers' cleaning.
 

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Well I agree with the others and give her the boot. She is taking advantage of you. One of my BIL's had a cleaning person for a while and she did the same thing.

I hope you have much better luck with the new one.
 
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Originally Posted by GailC

Well I agree with the others and give her the boot. She is taking advantage of you. One of my BIL's had a cleaning person for a while and she did the same thing.

I hope you have much better luck with the new one.
If this new girl is anything like she sounds, I've hit the jackpot!

She has her own business and her clientele has been built up through word of mouth, and it sounds like she has a number of repeat clients.

Soooooo *fingers crossed*
 

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My Mom has had her own cleaning business since I was 4...and I am 31. She built up from one client to a well paying business she could support 4 children on. All word of mouth. I agree with the others that she is taking you for a ride. You don't owe her anything. Just tell her you no longer require her services. There are good people out there that will do a good job. Especially if you have allergies you need someone who will clean with that in mind.

I cannot believe she wouldn't pick up the mat in the tub and clean under it.....how gross is that?? Bathrooms are my thing....
if I went with my Mom to help out I would get to do the bathrooms.
Hated dusting...
 

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I'll tell you what to tell her, pull a Donald Trump and say YOU'RE FIRED That is all you need to say, you don't owe her another darn thing, she got away with too much already.
 
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