VERY IMPORTANT - P&G buys more quality food

goldenkitty45 · May 5, 2010

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...t+food+company

This was posted on a dog related board - but it will also involve cats since P&G is buying Innvo, etc now.

P&G ruined the IAMS years ago by making it cheap and putting in fillers - you know they will do the same for this quality food.

Thought you all might like a heads up!

stephanietx · May 5, 2010

Well, carp! We recently switched to EVO and my girl loves it! Will either have to stock up and/or watch the labels carefully.

addiebee · May 5, 2010

Aw, man! I hope they don't RUIN it!!!

rang_27 · May 5, 2010

This is unfortunate news. I was feeding Evo for a while, but have since switched to Taste of The Wild. I hope that is not made by Nutra??

railntrailcwgrl · May 5, 2010

No, TOTW is made by Diamond.

snickerdoodle · May 5, 2010

Woo! I had to check my Hi-Tor and make sure Triumph wasn't included in that (Since they also have an "Evolve" brand) I don't think this was included. If it ain't broke don't fix it! Hope they don't ruin the foods.

taryn · May 5, 2010

They go cheap and ruin everything. I don't think solid gold is made by them, at least I hope not. Iams was at one point great food, look at it now, it's overpriced crap.

Taryn

katgoddess · May 6, 2010

Originally Posted by stephanietx

Well, carp! We recently switched to EVO and my girl loves it! Will either have to stock up and/or watch the labels carefully.

Unfortunately, I heard that pet food companies are not required to change the labels/ingredients list on their bags until 6 months after the change. In other words, they have up to 6 months to make those changes, so even if a label says something, what's inside could be different.

Sigh. I really liked California Natural for food allergy pets.

littleraven7726 · May 6, 2010

I'm very worried. I'm feeding California Naturals dry food right now. There have been so many changes to Iams/Eukanuba that Nabu wouldn't eat it if he was starving. My other two cats barf like crazy on any Iams/Eukanuba. Nabu ate the Iams "Healthy Naturals" for a while, but I know they changed something. He won't eat it anymore, like the rest of their formulas. Iams is no where near the food it was when I first got Nabu and his brother. Back then it was only available in specialty pet stores or from the vet.

I think we're going to be giving Natural Balance L.I.D. dry foods a try when we need a new bag. Otherwise it's back to sampling everything again.

followedbydolls · May 6, 2010

This is interesting. I feed california naturals here, i don't have any plans on jumping ship just yet lol

I will take a wait n see approach, i mean nutro and royal canin are owned by Mars aka:whiskas but i have still used their products and i admit to being no fan of whiskas because of their continued use of artificial chemical preservatives..

ie; BHT/BHA and Ethoxyquin.

I am wondering what has prompted this move? although it seems a lot of companies are being mass owned lately. I gather it's a matter of economics?

c1atsite · May 6, 2010

Originally Posted by followedbydolls

it seems a lot of companies are being mass owned lately. I gather it's a matter of economics?

I think so. P&G is the 2nd oldest company on the Dow Jones Industrial Average (almost 78 years on it). I think for many people, starting a company and selling it is the "other" "American dream." (The original being home ownership.)

otto · May 6, 2010

Originally Posted by followedbydolls

This is interesting. I feed california naturals here, i don't have any plans on jumping ship just yet lol

I will take a wait n see approach, i mean nutro and royal canin are owned by Mars aka:whiskas but i have still used their products and i admit to being no fan of whiskas because of their continued use of artificial chemical preservatives..

ie; BHT/BHA and Ethoxyquin.

I am wondering what has prompted this move? although it seems a lot of companies are being mass owned lately. I gather it's a matter of economics?

When Nutro was bought out the food quality declined greatly. The ingredient list was the same, but they don't have to report the quality of the ingredients. My cats reacted to the new batches of Nutro as if I was feeding them poisons.

I have only just gotten Tolly, my finicky boy, acclimated to Innova Flex Chicken and Brown Rice stew, and California Naturals Venison and Brown Rice. He is thriving on them, has gained weight, and eats with enjoyment. If they make changes, he will know. I won't borrow trouble, but I feel a sense of despair not knowing what to turn to next.

This indeed very distressing news.

followedbydolls · May 6, 2010

Originally Posted by otto

When Nutro was bought out the food quality declined greatly. The ingredient list was the same, but they don't have to report the quality of the ingredients. My cats reacted to the new batches of Nutro as if I was feeding them poisons.

I have only just gotten Tolly, my finicky boy, acclimated to Innova Flex Chicken and Brown Rice stew, and California Naturals Venison and Brown Rice. He is thriving on them, has gained weight, and eats with enjoyment. If they make changes, he will know. I won't borrow trouble, but I feel a sense of despair not knowing what to turn to next.

This indeed very distressing news.

That's too bad, oddly enough i have had the opposite reaction here, the redone nutro natural choice has worked well here, whereas the older formula wasn't.

I admit i will be none to pleased to be forced into removing CN from my rotation, it is what my oldest male does best on.

otto · May 6, 2010

My experience with Nutro was several years ago, when the first new batch of foods came out after the buy out.

I tried three different bags, it was a no go. When I contacted Nutro about my experience I was told that if my cats wouldn't eat the food they must be sick and I should take them to the vet! I then complained about the quality of the service, and got no joy there either.

So, I will not ever recommend Nutro.

But yes, the struggle to feed a finicky cat on a good quality food, or ANY food for that matter, is never ending.

If I didn't have to work so much, maybe I'd take the time to home cook food, but then, Tolly has never shown any interest in human food either.

Getting him happy and plumped out on the Innova was a two year task of trial and error, it's only been a few months he's started doing so well again.

littleraven7726 · May 7, 2010

I am going to go buy another big bag of California Natural so I can do a "wait and see" while everything settles. Nabu is so picky, I don't want to jump ship unless I have to. I do still have 2 dry foods I know he eats and does ok on, Cat Chow (& CC Naturals). They just aren't as the same as CN as far as how nice his coat is, but he will dig in and eat just as well on those.

As in my other post, I am still very nervous about what this means for CN's quality and formula changes.

strange_wings · May 7, 2010

Originally Posted by KatGoddess

Unfortunately, I heard that pet food companies are not required to change the labels/ingredients list on their bags until 6 months after the change. In other words, they have up to 6 months to make those changes, so even if a label says something, what's inside could be different.

Given how much complaining my DH has done about food being reformulated and not getting enough of the new bags in so that production had to stop entirely on some product until they got more (and how stupid the person responsible for not ordering enough is), I don't think what you heard is correct. Maybe other companies do it differently, I'll update later after asking him.

I have a suggestion. How about instead of writing up a bunch of posts complaining on this thread, why not write the company and get everyone else you know using the foods to do so as well? Maybe it will have some effect, maybe not. But at least P&G will see your complaints.

ETA: I asked. Maybe others will use improperly labeled bags but the rules at the local plant (and the company that owns them) is the the ingredients must be correctly listed and the guaranteed analysis correct.

sharky · May 7, 2010

Originally Posted by strange_wings

Given how much complaining my DH has done about food being reformulated and not getting enough of the new bags in so that production had to stop entirely on some product until they got more (and how stupid the person responsible for not ordering enough is), I don't think what you heard is correct. Maybe other companies do it differently, I'll update later after asking him.

I have a suggestion. How about instead of writing up a bunch of posts complaining on this thread, why not write the company and get everyone else you know using the foods to do so as well? Maybe it will have some effect, maybe not. But at least P&G will see your complaints.

ETA: I asked. Maybe others will use improperly labeled bags but the rules at the local plant (and the company that owns them) is the the ingredients must be correctly listed and the guaranteed analysis correct.

I would imagine it happens less now... but for decades there was a loophole of six months that a company could use 'old" bags that content ingredients did not match

strange_wings · May 7, 2010

Originally Posted by sharky

I would imagine it happens less now... but for decades there was a loophole of six months that a company could use 'old" bags that content ingredients did not match

Quite a few things have changed since the major pet food recalls. Testing is stricter now - they really flip out of salmonella. At least here, sanitation has majorly increased.
Information as little as three to five years old, even listed formulas, should be consider outdated - both in pet and human food production.

Though, anymore that "loophole" would be pointless if it was still allowed. Pet food production is much higher than than it was years ago. The little plant in town aims (and sometimes exceeds) 500 tons per day. They go through bags very quickly.

jordan s. · May 9, 2010

Originally Posted by Rang_27

This is unfortunate news. I was feeding Evo for a while, but have since switched to Taste of The Wild. I hope that is not made by Nutra??

Natura is Innova, California natural, EVO, healthwise, and karma

misty8723 · May 9, 2010

Does this mean I'll have some time to stock up on the old stuff until the new P&G ones hit the shelves?

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