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post #31 of 47
5/6/10 at 5:54pm
Sorry I have no clue as to why CFA cancelled it. Since there are only 2 CFA shows within my driving distance, it makes no sense for me to continue showing in CFA to grand Jack.
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post #32 of 47
5/6/10 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals View Post
That is being kept under wraps for the time being. Understandably so, because there are CFA members who are so perplexingly opposed to bengals it boggles the mind. It's a cat, pleasant to look at, pleasant to touch and pleasant to be around.

For the life of me, I don't understand these supposed "cat lover's" hatred for the breed.
I doubt it has as much to do with those who oppose the breed, and much more to do with a plan to completely violate the current show rules.

There is something intrinsically wrong with political powers actively plotting to undermine an organization's rules without notifying its constituents (member clubs.) If the "top" wants this to happen, it should be put to a vote to all of CFA's clubs. Last I checked, CFA was not a dictatorship. Those who want to treat it as such won't be voted back into power. Hopefully they'll do right by the spirit of democracy and raise the issue from the floor at this coming Annual.
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post #33 of 47
5/7/10 at 4:17am
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I doubt it has as much to do with those who oppose the breed, and much more to do with a plan to completely violate the current show rules.

There is something intrinsically wrong with political powers actively plotting to undermine an organization's rules without notifying its constituents (member clubs.) If the "top" wants this to happen, it should be put to a vote to all of CFA's clubs. Last I checked, CFA was not a dictatorship. Those who want to treat it as such won't be voted back into power. Hopefully they'll do right by the spirit of democracy and raise the issue from the floor at this coming Annual.
As I mentioned before, rules in clubs and registries change ALL the time. It's time for a change in CFA whether some members like it or not. Can't ever please everyone.
I believe all it takes is a 2/3 majority board vote to allow the bengals in a showhall for a meet and greet, exhibition only. That doesn't need to be taken to a membership vote, because the cats aren't competing.


CFA needs to make some fundamental changes if they plan to remain competitive as a registry. Right now TICA is gaining in popularity, especially with young breeders, while CFA is shrinking and the membership is aging to the point where clubs are having to hire outside help just to set up for a show, because the old ladies don't have the stamina anymore to do it themselves.

I'm not one bit convinced that the folks who oppose bengals in CFA, are just upset that a rule will be changed. They hate bengals and clearly say so. Just go to a CFA show as a spectator and ask 10 different exhibitors where the bengals are and why they aren't allowed. You get some pretty vile comments from these not-so-sweet little old ladies. I.E.
Bengals are vicious wild animals that bite, scratch
Bengals stink and make all the other docile cats turn mean
Bengals spray all over the showhall
Bengals make the worst pets, they are wild and untrainable
etc, etc.

It's all a load of BS from uneducated exhibitors, but this is what they spread to the public and this is what they believe.
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post #34 of 47
5/7/10 at 4:53am
Of course, then you have those that come in and see Jack (or Charlie) and immediately ask "is that a Bengal????" - even tho I have it written on the pictures "I'm an Ocicat".

So we politely tell them that CFA doesn't allow the Bengals cause they have the willd cat blood in them - no this is an Ocicat - 100% domestic - no wild blood.
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post #35 of 47
5/7/10 at 5:18am
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Of course, then you have those that come in and see Jack (or Charlie) and immediately ask "is that a Bengal????" - even tho I have it written on the pictures "I'm an Ocicat".

So we politely tell them that CFA doesn't allow the Bengals cause they have the willd cat blood in them - no this is an Ocicat - 100% domestic - no wild blood.
Well thank-you for being polite about it Martice, so many are rude.
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post #36 of 47
5/7/10 at 11:44am
This happened at a CFA show right after I showed Ty.
There were Oci's being judge and people were asking the judges if they were Bengals.
One of the people I know that shows in both blurted out that I was showing a Bengal and told them when the next TICA show was.
I got bashed and lectured by some CFA people because I was showing a Bengal.
The Bengals at the TICA shows here have been spraying the judges cages.
Some about Bengals does set Cleo off.
As soon as she smells one she goes crazy.
My other sphynx do not care.
Ty was a very nice cat and never tried to scratch or bite ever.
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post #37 of 47
5/7/10 at 1:06pm
Only bad experience I had was in a recent show, the owner was showing a spayed Bengal and the cat had not been out for about a year. She was VERY unhappy (to say the least) being in there. After the 2nd ring acting up, no one wanted their cats next to her in the judging ring and they had to space things out more, or people held back their cats till the Bengal was judged.

IMO the owner should have pulled her from the rest of the rings, but she didn't. When a Bengal gets an easy going Brit acting up and getting upset, you know the cat should not be in the ring!

Friends of mine own some of the sweetest natured Bengals - I even get to hold the 20 lb stud boy with no problems!
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post #38 of 47
5/7/10 at 3:49pm
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The thing is, that ALL breeds of cats do this. Some cats just don't like to show. But, when a bengal does it, everyone is all up in arms, saying it's because of the wild blood.
Hogwash!
Bengals are held to a higher standard of behavior then all the other breeds.
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post #39 of 47
5/7/10 at 4:35pm
Oh I agree Nial - I've seen a horrible acting Korat that no one wanted to be next to. IMO when your cat is upset by another cat (no matter what kind/breed), then its not fair to the cat, the judge or any one. Your cat then can't relax and "show off" because the other one got it upset.

I'm just relaying about my experience with a horrible acting Bengal. I know plenty of nice ones
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post #40 of 47
5/8/10 at 11:58am
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I'm just relaying about my experience with a horrible acting Bengal. I know plenty of nice ones
Right, and thanks! Cats of all breeds get out of hand at times, and a seasoned thoughtful exhibitor will remove them from the judging out of respect for the annoyed cat and the soon to be annoyed other exhibitors.
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post #41 of 47
5/9/10 at 1:55pm
it would be nice if the CFA would take the Bengal, because that would open the door for all kinds of hybrid cats.
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post #42 of 47
5/9/10 at 2:14pm
If the Bengals are allowed in CFA the next step will be Toygers.
That is what I heard yesterday.
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post #43 of 47
5/9/10 at 2:17pm
That's not true Jacky - Toygers are not even recognized outside of TICA and not even sure if they have champion status in TICA yet.

CFA and ACFA don't even recognize the Munchkins either and they are not even crossed with a wild cat.
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post #44 of 47
5/9/10 at 2:39pm
I wonder why people said that yesterday.
Toygers do have Championship status in TICA.
They have gone against my cats before.
My friend did a terrible thing.
She took a Toyger to a CFA show as exhibition and gave out info on Toygers.
This happened before we were friends.
TICA accepted the Toyger for Registration \t\t\tand in 2000 advanced them to the new breed exhibition classes, finally \t\t\tgranting them full recognition as a championship cat in February 2007. \t\t\t
http://tica.org/public/breeds/tg/intro.php
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post #45 of 47
5/9/10 at 3:41pm
I also heard that someone put a Bengal or part Bengal in the HHP show in CFA and the judges found out - needless to say it was against the rules cause of the wild cat blood in it. Even tho the cat didn't act up, it was just another reason for CFA to go against it.

What happened to the person bringing in the Toyger and passing out info???
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post #46 of 47
5/9/10 at 5:33pm
She was told never to bring the Toyger again.
She was showing in HHP.
I was not her friend at that time.


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post #47 of 47
5/9/10 at 7:36pm
I'm surprised they didn't tell her to get the cat out of the show hall!
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