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post #31 of 56
4/30/10 at 1:14pm
It only takes one Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley, Yigal Amir, Mehmet Ali Agca, Thenmozhi Rajaratnam, etc.. The list is endless.

Maybe the Secret Service is in a tizzy following Laura Bush's "revelations" about Heiligendamm. After all, if what she says is true, the Secret Service first failed to protect GWB from a poisoner, and then (together with doctors) failed to prove he was poisoned at all. I wonder if that story will boost book sales, or just resurrect the speculations that GWB fell off the wagon? And here I thought he'd caught a virus.
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post #32 of 56
4/30/10 at 3:25pm
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I'm sure many Tea Party people wouldn't mind in the least (I know I wouldn't) if Medicare and Social Security was totally scrapped as long as we are reimbursed the money + reasonable interest that we paid in.
They are socialist programs, there's nothing to reimburse. Everything you've paid thus far, was immediately spent on the current generation of senior citizens. "Your" share hasn't even been collected yet. So sorry.

If socialism is bad at all, then all socialism is bad.
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post #33 of 56
4/30/10 at 4:10pm
Oh wow, this is SO interesting

Quincy doesn't even HAVE a S.W.A.T. Team. Just plain ole', rank and file crowd control officers in standard armor. Well, so much for the "S.W.A.T. panic".

http://ci.quincy.ma.us/police.asp
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post #34 of 56
4/30/10 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Skippymjp View Post
Oh wow, this is SO interesting

Quincy doesn't even HAVE a S.W.A.T. Team. Just plain ole', rank and file crowd control officers in standard armor. Well, so much for the "S.W.A.T. panic".

http://ci.quincy.ma.us/police.asp
Psst it's Quincy IL, not Quincy MA.
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post #35 of 56
4/30/10 at 5:20pm
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Psst it's Quincy IL, not Quincy MA.
Oops.

Hey, that department is even SMALLER, about half the size. They don't even have regular crowd control. They just have plain ole' street cops in tact gear.
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post #36 of 56
4/30/10 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
It's not even as if Obama was personally involved other than having been present. The decision was made by the local police.

And as I recall, "Squeaky" Fromme didn't look very threatening.
Or how about this sweet looking granny - recognize her?
http://photos.thefirstpost.co.uk/ass...0869281500.jpg
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
It only takes one Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley, Yigal Amir, Mehmet Ali Agca, Thenmozhi Rajaratnam, etc.. The list is endless.

Maybe the Secret Service is in a tizzy following Laura Bush's "revelations" about Heiligendamm. After all, if what she says is true, the Secret Service first failed to protect GWB from a poisoner, and then (together with doctors) failed to prove he was poisoned at all. I wonder if that story will boost book sales, or just resurrect the speculations that GWB fell off the wagon? And here I thought he'd caught a virus.



I love it, keep on rationalizing calling out the SWAT Team on the the Tea Party Grannies. I love the spin.

The pictures speak for themselves.

Barack is SUCH a laughing stock for this. I love it. This is great, you guys are cracking me up. Thank you, I needed that. It was a stressful week at work and this happening with the Goons giving Granny the Beat down on Barack's orders was the funniest thing all week.

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post #37 of 56
5/1/10 at 9:21am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I love it, keep on rationalizing calling out the SWAT Team on the the Tea Party Grannies. I love the spin.

The pictures speak for themselves.

Barack is SUCH a laughing stock for this. I love it. This is great, you guys are cracking me up. Thank you, I needed that. It was a stressful week at work and this happening with the Goons giving Granny the Beat down on Barack's orders was the funniest thing all week.
And I find it so funny that you can't show me any proof that it was Obama or any of his staff that called out this. All it shows is local crowd control that may have been ready for all sorts of situations.

It is only the anti-Obama crowd that really believes this is his doing without any other proof.
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post #38 of 56
5/3/10 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I'm sure he did, it sounds just like him.
Really?

You're quick to demand more and more evidence, even in the face of multiple sources, from everyone on this board, yet blind speculation is all that's required for you?

Just an angry provocateur, looking to get a reaction. On the one hand, how sad. On the other, I'm thankful there is something out there to give you such release from your internal struggles. Even if it happens to be reveling in - or just plain fabricating - our President's deviations from your personal ideologies.
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post #39 of 56
5/3/10 at 8:52am
I think there is a lot of selective blog-surfing going on.
I do not normally like Olbermann but I think he hit the nail on the head as to how this type of misinformation originates and gets passed on. Reminds me of the children's game of "telephone."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXg_PxcJSo8
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post #40 of 56
5/3/10 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by katachtig View Post
And I find it so funny that you can't show me any proof that it was Obama or any of his staff that called out this. All it shows is local crowd control that may have been ready for all sorts of situations.

It is only the anti-Obama crowd that really believes this is his doing without any other proof.
Do I think it was Barack Obama, himself, that made the phone call to bring out the dudes in full body armor? No, I don't think Barack makes any of his own phone calls.
Do I think it was the Secret Service? Yes, I do think it was the Secret Service that told the local cops to call out the Goon Squad.

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Originally Posted by Keycube View Post
Really?

You're quick to demand more and more evidence, even in the face of multiple sources, from everyone on this board, yet blind speculation is all that's required for you?

Just an angry provocateur, looking to get a reaction. On the one hand, how sad. On the other, I'm thankful there is something out there to give you such release from your internal struggles. Even if it happens to be reveling in - or just plain fabricating - our President's deviations from your personal ideologies.

I love you too Keycube.
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post #41 of 56
5/3/10 at 9:40am
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You're quick to demand more and more evidence, even in the face of multiple sources, from everyone on this board,
Whoops, I missed this part of the post.
Maybe you could post me some proof of this statement, that would be nice.
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post #42 of 56
5/3/10 at 10:56am
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Whoops, I missed this part of the post.
Maybe you could post me some proof of this statement, that would be nice.
Thankfully, I don't need to, as there's no one on this board that isn't aware of it. But one doesn't need to look any further than this thread for a twisted sort of example.

After 2 pages of this thread, well time enough for some fact-checking and/or "blogosphere skepticism" to set in, we still got this from you:

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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Now back to the topic of the thread, which is,

Team Obama sets the Goons on the Geezers.

The world is laughing at Barack for being such a wimpy fraidy cat of the grannies singing God Bless America that he has to call in the SWAT Team.

The video of them marching, lock step down the street is PRICELESS.

This is one for posterity. If Barack is this scared of some little old grannies, I can see why he is not securing our borders as he promised he would do.

http://sharpelbowsstl.blogspot.com/ Best link EVER to all the video's of Barack's goon squad and tea party grannies.

See link for video of proof that the Tea Party grannies DID follow the authorities directions to move. The only comeback to this embarrassing debacle for Barack has been, "the grannies wouldn't move" ha ha ha, great comeback, sorry it's not true, they did move.

Also in the same video is the lock-stepping march of the SWAT Team.
It doesn't get much better than this folks.
Really? This isn't substantive, it's just obnoxious and reeking of propaganda.

Lo and behold, there have been some counterpoints to this event, for example:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rig...tea_party.html

and

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201004...ynews_ts1859_1

Not buying into them? I don't care. It doesn't matter. The point is that when you're not certain what's going on, why would you have such conviction so as to throw out such a smarmy, sarcastic thread, and hold true to it in spite of itself?
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post #43 of 56
5/3/10 at 11:29am
It's time to tone down the personal remarks, folks, and return to the topic, or just let the thread die.
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post #44 of 56
5/3/10 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by Keycube View Post
Thankfully, I don't need to, as there's no one on this board that isn't aware of it. But one doesn't need to look any further than this thread for a twisted sort of example.

I didn't think so.

After 2 pages of this thread, well time enough for some fact-checking and/or "blogosphere skepticism" to set in, we still got this from you:

I'm missing where I asked,
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You're quick to demand more and more evidence, even in the face of multiple sources, from everyone on this board,
I must be blind today.



Really? This isn't substantive, it's just obnoxious and reeking of propaganda.

Lo and behold, there have been some counterpoints to this event, for example:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rig...tea_party.html

So, which was it? Was it this? Which I would take to be BEFORE Barack arrived.
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"Local police, wearing riot gear, briefly marched down the street to clear it for the president's motorcade."
or was it this?
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"There were a few tense moments when the crowd moved west down York toward Third Street after the president's motorcade arrived. A Secret Service agent asked the crowd to move back across the street to the north side.

When the crowd didn't move and began singing "God Bless, America" and the national anthem, Quincy Deputy Police Chief Ron Dreyer called for members of the Mobile Field Force to walk up the street. The officers, mainly from Metro East departments near St. Louis and dressed in full body armor, marched from the east and stood on the south side of York facing the protesters.
So, in the same links it says the Riot Police are 1. local and then is says they are from 2.St. Louis. First it says 1.the Riot Police in, "full body armor" showed up "to clear it for the president's motorcade
then it says 2."when the crowd moved west down York toward Third Street after the president's motorcade arrived. A Secret Service agent asked the crowd to move back across the street to the north side.

When the crowd didn't move and began singing "God Bless, America" and the national anthem, Quincy Deputy Police Chief Ron Dreyer called for members of the Mobile Field Force to walk up the street.





and

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/201004...ynews_ts1859_1

Not buying into them? I don't care. It doesn't matter. The point is that when you're not certain what's going on, why would you have such conviction so as to throw out such a smarmy, sarcastic thread, and hold true to it in spite of itself?
I didn't realize that Riot Police in full body armor, for "crowd control" was a common occurence at Obama events.

I don't know, "Mobil Field Force" has a "SWAT Team" kind of ring to it, to me.

Keycube, bottom line, it's funny, REALLY funny. Laugh at the absurdity of it.
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post #45 of 56
5/3/10 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I didn't realize that Riot Police in full body armor, for "crowd control" was a common occurence at Obama events.

I don't know, "Mobil Field Force" has a "SWAT Team" kind of ring to it, to me.

Keycube, bottom line, it's funny, REALLY funny. Laugh at the absurdity of it.
OMG, now I realize why you think it funny. You think they called for the police in gear specifically for these ladies. Have you ever been to an Obama event to see the police? These gentleman were most likely already there and were told where to go. You don't think they wouldn't have tactical at an event with a President that recieve constant death threats, or any president really. Law enforcement takes their jobs seriously and no one wants something to happen to the President on thier watch. And frankly I don't blame them.

As for them being harmless little old ladies. They probably are but how are the police supposed to know that. They practiced a little civil disobedience and were called on it. The police blocked the way. I don't see anything wrong on either side. And I am sure both sides did something we are not seeing. Better safe than sorry. I am sure the guard at the holocaust museum did not expect an 88 year old man to come in and shoot him down either. Sorry, but I have met some old people I would not want to meet by myself on a dark night.

I am just not sure why this is a big deal. And actually I am kinda of shocked at police officers doing thier job being called goons. Or claiming they beat down granny. I didn't see them touch one. But that is just me. Just seems disproportionate.
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post #46 of 56
5/3/10 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by peachytoday View Post
OMG, now I realize why you think it funny. You think they called for the police in gear specifically for these ladies. Have you ever been to an Obama event to see the police? These gentleman were most likely already there and were told where to go. You don't think they wouldn't have tactical at an event with a President that recieve constant death threats, or any president really. Law enforcement takes their jobs seriously and no one wants something to happen to the President on thier watch. And frankly I don't blame them.

As for them being harmless little old ladies. They probably are but how are the police supposed to know that. They practiced a little civil disobedience and were called on it. The police blocked the way. I don't see anything wrong on either side. And I am sure both sides did something we are not seeing. Better safe than sorry. I am sure the guard at the holocaust museum did not expect an 88 year old man to come in and shoot him down either. Sorry, but I have met some old people I would not want to meet by myself on a dark night.

I am just not sure why this is a big deal. And actually I am kinda of shocked at police officers doing thier job being called goons. Or claiming they beat down granny. I didn't see them touch one. But that is just me. Just seems disproportionate.
1. No, I think they called the Mobile Field Force, in full body armor, out because the Tea Party was having a rally. I think whoever called them out thought it would be quite amusing to do that to the Tea Party. The plan blew up in their face IMO and all it did is make the Mobile Field Force in their full body armor (or riot gear, whatever one prefers to call it) and the Secret Service, the local PD and Obama look foolish.

2. No, have you? But I know a few people who have and there was no Mobile Field Force in full body armor in sight. How about you?

2A. As far as these "gentlemen" (of which I am assuming you are refering to the Mobile Field Force) "were most likely already there and were told where to go", well I was under the impression they were called out because the Tea Party people didn't move across the street fast enough, although the video's clearly show, the the Tea Party people were peaceful, causing no trouble and were a little confused regarding where they were to move to.

3. ALL Presidents receive "constant death threats", nothing new here.
One man even wrote a book and got it published titled, "How to Assassinate President George Bush". I still don't think the Bush Administration, Bush's Secret Service Detail or the local authorities of the community Bush was visitng called in a Mobile Field Fore in full body armor on peaceful American's staging a rally.

4. "Civil Disobedience?" You may call it that, I call it being a tad slow and a tad confused on where they were to move to. I know how dangerous some old, white haired grannies can look to a Mobile Field Force in Full Body Armor.
You can't be to careful.

5. I'm not scared of old people, but that's just me.

6. Perhaps it is a "big deal" because of the constant accusations of "violence, advocating violence, racism" and other lies told by the left wing media and the Obama Administration and the Democrats in Congress about the Tea Party people.

7. "Shocked"? Don't be. They were goons.

8. As "disproportionate" as the Left Wing lies about the Tea Party?



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post #47 of 56
5/4/10 at 4:12am
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
1. No, I think they called the, Mobil Field Force in full body armor out because the Tea Party was having a rally. I think whoever called them out thought it would be quite amusing to do that to the Tea Party. The plan blew up in their face IMO and all it did is make the Mobile Field Force in their full body armor (or riot gear, whatever one prefers to call it) and the Secret Service, the local PD and Obama look like fools.

You are entitled to your opinion.

2. No, have you? But I know a few people who have and there was no Mobile Field Force in full body armor in sight. How about you?

Yes, working 2 blocks from the White House I see all sorts of things. And for the most part when there is security there are officers in combat gear. I have seen more armor and automatic weapons than I care to. I don't know who your friends are but I see it all the time.

2A. As far as these "gentlemen" (of which I am assuming you are refering to the Mobile Field Force) "were most likely already there and were told where to go", well I was under the impression they were called out because the Tea Party people didn't move across the street fast enough, although the video's clearly show, the the Tea Party people were peaceful, causing no trouble and were a little confused regarding where they were to move to.

3. ALL Presidents receive "constant death threats", nothing new here.
One man even wrote a book and got it published titled, "How to Assassinate President George Bush". I still don't think the Bush Administration, Bush's Secret Service Detail or the local authorities of the community Bush was visitng called in a Mobile Field Fore in full body armor on peaceful American's staging a rally.

No, threats are nothing new and all are taken seriously. I am sure there was some.

4. "Civil Disobedience?" You may call it that, I call it being a tad slow and a tad confused on where they were to move to. I know how dangerous some old, white haired grannies can look to a Mobile Field Force in Full Body Armor.
You can't be to careful.

I agree with you, you cannot be too careful.

5. I'm not scared of old people, but that's just me.

You are not the president or trying to protect the president so you should have no cause to really be worried about anything.

6. Perhaps it is a "big deal" because of the constant accusations of "violence, advocating violence, racism" and other lies told by the left wing media and the Obama Administration and the Democrats in Congress about the Tea Party people.

Are you saying there is none. Really.

7. "Shocked"? Don't be. They were goons.

Really, you really believe that about the police? Or just because they did something you don't approve of.

8. As "disproportionate" as the Left Wing lies about the Tea Party?

Both sides do it, including on this site, so there is nothing new about that. And it is a childish arguement. Well, he started it. In this case it was no big deal on either side except if you want to make a big deal out of it.
Of course this incident is a matter of perception. Anyone is welcome to have thier own opinion whether the other side understands it or not.
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post #48 of 56
5/4/10 at 5:06am
I suspect guys so dressed and equipped are in the background at any place the President appears. They could be a very important part of his security force, although in this case it looks like someone decided to make an ill-advised show of force.

HOWEVER...SEIU thugs have roughed up Tea Party demonstrators a number of times, and are much more of a concern to me.
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post #49 of 56
5/7/10 at 1:46pm
Just to toss this out there. Regardless of if they were all "grannies" in this day theres no telling what some random crazed person could do with some stage makeup and some putty to dress themselves up as a "granny" and shoot someone. Its possible so even in those circumstances no matter who the current president is its still possible in any situation that some crazy lunatic went all out and decked themselves out as a "granny" to potentially shoot the president. It seems a little far fetched but its still possible. Personally Id say its better to be safe than sorry. That is just my opinion after all and after reading thru this thread the thought popped into my head about the makeup and how nowadays we can take a 20 yr old male and turn him into a 80 something yr old grandmother.
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post #50 of 56
5/8/10 at 6:01am
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Bottom line. Some President's are scared of peaceful, white haired grannies and some President's aren't.
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post #51 of 56
5/8/10 at 7:13am
Regardless or being 'scared' or not. I dont think anyone no matter what their political party would really want to see any President assasinated by some lunatic dressed up as a 'granny' and even still it doesnt discount that some 'grannies' arent as innocent as they seem.
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post #52 of 56
5/8/10 at 9:03am
That's another thing that surprised me every time, for the first few months on the job. When criminals get old...you have old criminals...male AND female.
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post #53 of 56
5/8/10 at 11:51am
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Yeah, those white haired grannies, dressed in their Red Tea Party t-shirts and their purses, they are a fearsome sight to behold, they strike terror in the heart of many liberals, can't say as how I blame them for that.
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post #54 of 56
5/8/10 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Yeah, those white haired grannies, dressed in their Red Tea Party t-shirts and their purses, they are a fearsome sight to behold, they strike terror in the heart of many liberals, can't say as how I blame them for that.
Those liberals are probably terrified of being bored to death. This topic is getting older than those grannies.
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post #55 of 56
5/8/10 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Yeah, those white haired grannies, dressed in their Red Tea Party t-shirts and their purses, they are a fearsome sight to behold, they strike terror in the heart of many liberals, can't say as how I blame them for that.
It seems like just because they were white haired grannies in there tea party tee shirts they are completely 100% unlikely to do something radical........Guess what even grannies have the potential to do something crazy! Just because they happen to fall on your side of a political line does not mean they dont have the potential to be an idiot or do something ridiculous! Geez even my granny falls on your tea party side and take a look inside her purse one day....it might shock you to see that the 70 something yr old 'granny' carries around a handgun and...gulp....knows how to use it! But your right little white haired grannies in their tea party tee shirts would NEVER do something as crazy as carry around a gun!
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post #56 of 56
5/8/10 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by 3CatsN1Dog View Post
It seems like just because they were white haired grannies in there tea party tee shirts they are completely 100% unlikely to do something radical........Guess what even grannies have the potential to do something crazy! Just because they happen to fall on your side of a political line does not mean they dont have the potential to be an idiot or do something ridiculous! Geez even my granny falls on your tea party side and take a look inside her purse one day....it might shock you to see that the 70 something yr old 'granny' carries around a handgun and...gulp....knows how to use it! But your right little white haired grannies in their tea party tee shirts would NEVER do something as crazy as carry around a gun!
Yes, you keep saying that, thank you for the information.
Please forgive me if I don't hold my breath waiting for a right wing or left wing granny to do "something radical." It just isn't up there on my fear list.


I hope you aren't insinuating that anyone should fear your grandma because she carries for protection, you aren't are you?

So, are you saying anyone who carries is crazy? Really?
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