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Originally Posted by BrookeSphynx

Bunnelina, best of luck to you and your boy today. A cough is always a scary thing. Vibes right back at you!
Thank you! We can use those vibes! I won't get his results until tomorrow or Saturday. My vet thinks it's unlikely it's heartworms, but his cough just comes out of nowhere. Weird. He had another spell in the middle of the night.

I hope the antibiotics help Helen's lungs quickly! I am SO GLAD she doesn't have heartworms. Keep us posted on her progress, please!
 
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Thank you for checking in, everyone! Helen is doing really well. She's been sleeping a bit more than usual, but I suppose that's to be expected considering the ordeal she's been through... Interestingly, I haven't heard her cough once since she's been home. I wonder if that's a result of the nebulizer treatment she got while she was in the ER...? And if so, does that indicate her problem might be asthma?

My vet insists that she doesn't have asthma, because of the pattern on her lungs, but we all know cats don't always follow the textbook when it comes to these things. At this point, he has no idea what is wrong with her or what caused her collapse. This is really upsetting to me, because I fear without treating something, is she at risk of collapse again?!

Helen is a compulsive licker, btw. She has the world's roughest tongue - like 40 grit sandpaper. She is always trying to lick my face but it hurts too much and I make her stop...but ever since this happened, I've been letting her get a few licks in. She's milking it for all it's worth!! I'll probably need reconstructive surgery soon.
 
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Originally Posted by Bunnelina

Thank you! We can use those vibes! I won't get his results until tomorrow or Saturday. My vet thinks it's unlikely it's heartworms, but his cough just comes out of nowhere. Weird. He had another spell in the middle of the night.

I hope the antibiotics help Helen's lungs quickly! I am SO GLAD she doesn't have heartworms. Keep us posted on her progress, please!
Bunnelina, do you have a thread about his coughing? I haven't been on TCS enough to have seen one. I'm curious what it sounds like...is it a wet sounding cough (like Helen's) or a dry, hacking cough?

Her coughing comes out of nowhere, too, usually while she's resting. And it's not every day, but maybe every other day. The fits don't last for more than a few seconds, but the morning of her 'episode' she had a fit that lasted for about 45 seconds.

Here's hoping you get some answers, too!
 

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I went through a strange cough with my five year old kitty Max over the winter. It came on over night. We had him tested for heartworms which was negative. We also treated him for the lung worm even though the vet did not think it was lung worms. The vet did not think it was asthma either from the xray and he gave Max a shot of long acting steroid which did not improve the cough. They also from the xray ruled out heart issues and did not hear a murmur.

It was very upsetting not knowing why Max was coughing, but the good news is that it slowly went away. I am just hoping it was a kitty cold or virus and won't come back. I hope Helen's cough goes away soon and she is feeling better!
 

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Originally Posted by BrookeSphynx

Bunnelina, do you have a thread about his coughing? I haven't been on TCS enough to have seen one. I'm curious what it sounds like...is it a wet sounding cough (like Helen's) or a dry, hacking cough?

Her coughing comes out of nowhere, too, usually while she's resting. And it's not every day, but maybe every other day. The fits don't last for more than a few seconds, but the morning of her 'episode' she had a fit that lasted for about 45 seconds.

Here's hoping you get some answers, too!
Hi BrookSphynx, I don't have a thread. I hope I don't need to start one.... Possum's coughing started in October when he had calici virus. He'd have long, scary attacks, but at least we knew it was the virus. After he got better, he continued to have occasional long coughing spells into December, January, and February. These would often happen when he was sleeping; he'd wake up with a coughing spell maybe once a week. Otherwise, he seemed fine. In March, I was hopeful that they'd they'd tapered off and stopped for good. But he's had three more spells in the past week.

His former coughing spells would last between 20 and 40 seconds I'd say. He would crouch on all fours, stick his neck out and cough deeply and continuously with wide eyes and a lot of effort. I'm sorry I can't really tell you if they were wet or dry. They were sort of in the middle. (So not very wet, but also not a "light" dry cough.) I could tell he was freaked out by each episode — he was only a little kitten, and they seemed to last an eternity.

His recent coughing spells have been shorter and a bit less violent, but he's a great big cat now. I asked our vet if I could be confusing them with retching (like with a hairball) and I'm still not sure. I guess they look similar.

I'm still waiting for his heartworm test results. Fingers crossed!!! And thanks very much for the vibes.

How useful to have a cat who is also an exfoliator! If she liked to lick feet, she could give pedicures!


More seriously, have you considered consulting other vets, possibly a cardiopulmonary specialist, to try to get to the bottom of this? I can only imagine how stressful it must be for you to be worrying that Helen might have another collapse. I would find it difficult to ever leave the house.




UPDATE: Possum's heartworm tests are negative. YAY!!! The vet thinks the coughing could be a lingering effect from the virus, an allergy, or post-nasal drip (he has a cold, very wet nose). I'm really relieved we stop worrying about heartworms! I hope Helen is doing well!
 
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Originally Posted by Bunnelina

Hi BrookSphynx, I don't have a thread. I hope I don't need to start one.... Possum's coughing started in October when he had calici virus. He'd have long, scary attacks, but at least we knew it was the virus. After he got better, he continued to have occasional long coughing spells into December, January, and February. These would often happen when he was sleeping; he'd wake up with a coughing spell maybe once a week. Otherwise, he seemed fine. In March, I was hopeful that they'd they'd tapered off and stopped for good. But he's had three more spells in the past week.

His former coughing spells would last between 20 and 40 seconds I'd say. He would crouch on all fours, stick his neck out and cough deeply and continuously with wide eyes and a lot of effort. I'm sorry I can't really tell you if they were wet or dry. They were sort of in the middle. (So not very wet, but also not a "light" dry cough.) I could tell he was freaked out by each episode — he was only a little kitten, and they seemed to last an eternity.

His recent coughing spells have been shorter and a bit less violent, but he's a great big cat now. I asked our vet if I could be confusing them with retching (like with a hairball) and I'm still not sure. I guess they look similar.

I'm still waiting for his heartworm test results. Fingers crossed!!! And thanks very much for the vibes.

How useful to have a cat who is also an exfoliator! If she liked to lick feet, she could give pedicures!


More seriously, have you considered consulting other vets, possibly a cardiopulmonary specialist, to try to get to the bottom of this? I can only imagine how stressful it must be for you to be worrying that Helen might have another collapse. I would find it difficult to ever leave the house.




UPDATE: Possum's heartworm tests are negative. YAY!!! The vet thinks the coughing could be a lingering effect from the virus, an allergy, or post-nasal drip (he has a cold, very wet nose). I'm really relieved we stop worrying about heartworms! I hope Helen is doing well!
Yay!!! So glad to hear another negative HW result!! The waiting was awful, right?

Possum's coughing spells sound different than Helen's...oddly, while she's coughing, she doesn't seem uncomfortable at all. My HCM boy has terrible coughing fits with his neck extended very low to the ground, and I can tell he's struggling to get air, but when Helen is coughing, she barely even sits up. Sometimes she doesn't open her mouth. I could almost describe it like she's clearing her throat...but...cats don't do that.

"How useful to have a cat who is also an exfoliator! If she liked to lick feet, she could give pedicures!
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Funny you should say this...when she gets into one of her obsessive licking moods, I've tried offering her a foot! She refuses to lick my feet. Yes, she will lick her own bottom, but she won't lick my feet. I try not to take it personally...


Regarding consulting another vet...yes - that's the plan. If the 3 weeks of Baytril don't have any effect, I'm going to take her for a second opinion somewhere. She did have an echocardiogram about 8 months ago (just routine, since HCM is so prevalent in her breed) and her heart was in great shape, and still looks great on xray now. So, I'm not too concerned about her heart, but I would like to find a vet that knows a lot about kitty lungs because they look awful. She does have Feline Herpes. I'm also considering a PCR to find out if she's got any other upper respiratory thing going on in addition to the herpes.

Anyhow, it's been 4 days since the "incident" and still no coughing. She's in the kitchen being a diva and yelling for me right now...still taking full advantage of my pity!
 
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Originally Posted by MaxMommy

I went through a strange cough with my five year old kitty Max over the winter. It came on over night. We had him tested for heartworms which was negative. We also treated him for the lung worm even though the vet did not think it was lung worms. The vet did not think it was asthma either from the xray and he gave Max a shot of long acting steroid which did not improve the cough. They also from the xray ruled out heart issues and did not hear a murmur.

It was very upsetting not knowing why Max was coughing, but the good news is that it slowly went away. I am just hoping it was a kitty cold or virus and won't come back. I hope Helen's cough goes away soon and she is feeling better!
Great to hear Max's cough went away on it's own! How long did the coughing last before it went away?

I wish my vet were more willing to try some things like yours...for example, I've asked him to treat Helen for lung worms - just in case - but he won't do it because he says it's rare and not likely. He won't even do a fecal to check her for lung worms because they rarely ever show up in a fecal. URGH!! On the other hand, he has no idea why she's coughing and isn't offering up any other suggestions to figure it out. I'd feel a lot better if we were doing something diagnostic!
 

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I'm so glad Helen's doing well!
I think you're doing and planning all the right things. And, of course, you must continue to be Helen's willing slave. She certainly looks like a little diva who can make the most of that!

Hmm.... Being feral, Possum hasn't had any testing for HCM. I know my vet is aware of it, but hasn't mentioned it as a possibility for him. She talked me out of getting purebred Maine Coons because of it, which how I ended up with ferals. She said his heart sounds strong and his lungs sound great.

I've started a thread on post-nasal drip because she thinks that's a possibility and I don't know much about it in cats. (Although I wake up with coughing fits from it myself, so I'm thinking it's similar for Possum.)

More vibes for Helen, may she keep going strong!
 

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Max's cough lasted for about two months. The first month he would have coughing fits a couple times a day. The second month they spaced out to every few days. At first his cough was wet sounding but then it seemed like he was clearing his throat.

My vet said the same thing about lung worms that they are rare and hard to test for, Max is an indoor only cat but I had taken in two feral kittens last summer so he decided it would not hurt to treat him. I believe the name of the worm med was profender. The vet also put him on antibiotics. The meds did not seem to improve his cough which is why I thought it was a kitty virus.

Max is the oppisite of your Helen he has so much hair we call him wilderbeast cat. I was hoping it was a hairball and also treated him with hairball meds which did not work either. At least that is one thing you can rule out!


If Helen improved with steroids I would be concerned about asthma, not sure how the pollen count is in your area but here in Jersey the allergies are aweful. I know people who have allergy induced asthma I wonder if cats can have the same. If the cough starts to get worse I would ask your vet about a long lasting steriod, mine gave Max a shot of that and said if it were asthma he would improve quickly.

I hope she continues to feel better, I can't imagine how scary that must have been for you! If only these cats knew how much we worry about them!
 
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