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lip smacking and hiding

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi,

I have a 9 year old short hair cat who's been showing some odd behavior for several month (4-5). IT mainly involves 'lip smacking' and hiding under the bed and meowing. Otherwise, she seems fine. Going to the bathroom, eating well, playing periodically, and generally content. The lip smacking seems to be worst when she's sleeping, for some reason.

I've had her to 2 vets a total of 4 times. They did blood work, and everything checked out fine. The first vet finally decided on teeth, and wanted to remove some. The second said the teeth seemed ok, and suggested that it may be behavioral. Her recommendation was prozac. I guess attributing it to behavior is possible, but I'm concerned that it's physical, and that she's in some sort of distress.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm planning on taking her in for a 5th visit soon, as it doesn't seem to be clearing up. Is there anything specific I should be asking? Would prozac really be a suitable treatment?

Any guidance would be very much appreciated.

Marsha
post #2 of 11
I was going to say it could be kidney problems but since her tests were fine i am not sure.
Teeth can cause it also but you had them checked.
So can liver problems.
I hope a vet can help you.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Yes, my first thought was kidney related nausea, but as you said, the blood tests should've ruled the former out. I tried pepcid AC a few times...and it didn't seem to help the lip-smacking. I'm thinking I might try some "slippery elm bark" to see if it helps.

I really hate the idea of her suffering, and me not being able to do anything
post #4 of 11
I hope something helps.
Maybe they should redo the blood tests.
post #5 of 11
Wow, this mystery must be frustrating for you! I strongly recommend more testing. Lip-smacking and hiding are very common signs of nausea and pain, and it's not "behavioral" if the cat is doing it in her sleep and isn't aware of it. There's got to be a physical problem here. It could be something like IBS or IBD — and it could also be a blockage. A member here had her cat X-rayed because the cat's lip-smacking was worrying her... and the vet ultimately removed a large collection of hair elastics from her cat, who got better.

(Between you and me and everyone else reading this post, I have to say that, IMHO, a vet who calls these particular symptoms "behavioral" and recommends Prozac because he can't find a cause is NOT a vet I'd ever return to. Thank god he's not a doctor, for he'd be dispensing Prozac all day long.... Prozac will not ease the poor cat's distress if it is from a physical cause, it will just keep her from communicating her pain so clearly. Dreadful! )

Best of luck with this, and please do keep us posted.
post #6 of 11
I just can't see this being behavioral, considering your kitty does this when she's sleeping. I would seriously hold off on putting her on Prozac until you're assured that all health/medical issues have been fully ruled out. Considering one vet attributed this to the teeth and a different vet disagreed and suggested it was behavioral (2 such completely differing opinions), I'd personally obtain the opinion of a 3rd vet (without telling him what the other 2 vets suggested as possibilities). I'd want the 3rd Vet to really have a good look at kitty's teeth because at this age, there could be dental issues that need to be addressed.

Generally cats hide when they're in pain.

If there's a vet clinic near you that specializes in cats-ONLY (cat clinic), I'd try there. Vets who specialize in feline health/dentistry are ones I'd turn to when there's something amiss but you're getting very vague and diametrically differing "possibilities" from general vets.

Might be a good idea, too, to try and videotape her when she's doing this lip-smacking (eg: when sleeping), so that you can really show the Vet.

Do you know for CERTAIN what labwork was done? I'd request copies of all labwork done (this is your right to request this. many of us keep copies of all of our cats' lab results, just for our own personal info and to have on hand should any kind of emergency result and we have to take our cat to a different vet/emerg clinic, then these results are on hand) and take them with you to the new vet you see.

Maybe kitty needs, in addition to a good dental exam, inspection of throat, mouth cavity really good, to ensure no abscess or growth in mouth or throat, under tongue, etc.

Something else to consider? Maybe an inner ear infection? This can cause equilibrium to be off and just like in humans, can feel nauseated due to dizzyness from that. Does kitty ever seem outwardly unsteady or dizzy? Leary about jumping up or down from things?

Mild pancreatitis can also cause nausea, which could cause the lip-smacking.

Kitty doesn't throw up at all though, right?

Do you ever see kitty hovering over her water bowl or food dish?

Do you know for certain that previous bloodwork included kidney function? (BUN, creatinine)

Does kitty ever drool at all? (like other than when very happy and purring)

Might not be a bad idea to do xray of abdomen or ultrasound, to see if there's something inside that's irritating belly/intestines that's causing the nausea.
post #7 of 11
I always know when Jack's going to hack up a furball because he starts smacking his lips, his tail switshes from side to side, and he lets out such a howl. It's horrible to hear
post #8 of 11
I hope the vet can figure something out.

My cat has bad liver issues right now (your vet wouls see this on the bloodwork, if this was the case) and he smacks his lips when he smells cat food, or thinks I am about to assist feed him (he will not eat). When he is about to vomit he starts smacking alot and licking then vomits.
post #9 of 11
A year and a half ago I adopted Scaredy, an almost-full-grown feral kitten who was wandering outside. I immediately had her spayed, and for an entire week, she licked her lips and hid in the tiniest crevices she could find. Stupidly, I thought it was because she was being, well, feral.

Now I am convinced the poor thing was in a lot of pain from her surgery. I'd only had one other kitty spayed (have had mostly males) and it was 20 years ago, but I don't remember Annie acting like that.

I hope you find your kitty's problem soon. Sending vibes
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for the very helpful advice. I'll definitely be a lot more prepared this time around.

I do wonder if the lip smacking may be a result of the extremely dry air in our apartment. Oh how I'd love for it to be something simple like that. Come to think of it, this all began around the beginning of winter, so it would make sense. It'll be interesting to see what happens when we turn off the heat.

I think I'm going heed the advice and bring MJ to a 3rd vet. I hate to start the process all over again, but yes, the prozac recommendation does seem inappropriate, especially on a first visit.

What amazes me is her general happiness. When she's hiding under the bed, if I wave one of her toys around, she'll come running out, jumping around, ready to play. She also responds to her other usual stimuli (most of the time), her brush, etc, that might not be quite so instinctual.

To answer a few of the_food_lady's question.

I don't know for certain what lab work was done, but I will find out. I just assumed, considering the symptoms, and me mentioning CRF, they would've checked for it. If they didn't, suffice to say I won't be pleased.

The first vet focused on the throat a fair bit. I forgot to mention, actually, that he put her through two rounds of antibiotics, thinking she may have had some sort of throat infection. At the time, I convinced myself that it helped a bit, but I think that was more wishful thinking than anything.

MJ had a few teeth removed about a year ago, so dental issues would certainly make sense. I'll make sure the 3rd vet pays close attention to her mouth.

I've never seen her hovering over her food dish, nor vomiting. No drool except when she's purring Oh how she drools when she's happy!

I have noticed her "wobbling" a few times upon waking up...but only once or twice, and only upon waking.

Anyway, thanks again, so much, for all the ideas. I'm going to assemble them into a list of questions to ask. I will definitely report back once I've seen the next vet to let you all know how it went.
post #11 of 11
Wobbling after resting may be arthritis.

I hope the vet visit goes well, let us know!
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