Bear is at the vet. He's very sick, liver looks horrible.

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Poor Bear .... this must be so hard on both of you.... sending lots of vibes
 

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Adding some more vibes

I have always had more luck adding the butter between feedings (a little on the nose etc) rather than in food, it helps them get back that eating feeling too
 

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I'm so sad for you and poor little bear. Sending you vibes and healing thoughts. There is so much power in love and we all love your little bear.
 

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Hey there - for what it's worth, I never added anything to the a/d besides water. It was 25ml of water mixed with a can of a/d, and I did the water flushes afterwards (about 10ml). I'm glad that my story is helping you out. I have a suspicion that just giving their bodies something to process besides fat is more important that a strict caloric goal, though that might be more specific to HL than cholangiohepatitis. It seemed like feeding small amounts more often helped with the vomiting - although she did get metoclopromide for nausea that last week or so. That might have helped too, but it's hard for me to tell if she was just feeling better on her own at that point or if it was the medicine.
 
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Thanks everyone!


He did better today, he kept most of the straight a/d down.
He was *very* close to drinking water today, several times. He went up to the water bowl, smelled it and bent over a few centimeters (I raised it, read that it helps)........ and then changed his mind.
Yay for small victories though!

The vet called me after the clinic closed to check on Bear, he told me not to mix anything with the a/d and see how Bear does. I am feeding him less syringes now because it's more concentrated then before, when I was mixing it with water, same amount of calories. He also said the FIP test came back and Bear has the protiens that turn into fip, but that does not mean he has it. I was very careful when I handeled the stray that had fip and washed my hands every time. Its unlikely that Bear caught it. Its easily killed with soap. We just have to wait and see.



Originally Posted by icklemiss21

Adding some more vibes

I have always had more luck adding the butter between feedings (a little on the nose etc) rather than in food, it helps them get back that eating feeling too
I will try that, thanks so much!



Originally Posted by violentdayzie

Hey there - for what it's worth, I never added anything to the a/d besides water. It was 25ml of water mixed with a can of a/d, and I did the water flushes afterwards (about 10ml). I'm glad that my story is helping you out. I have a suspicion that just giving their bodies something to process besides fat is more important that a strict caloric goal, though that might be more specific to HL than cholangiohepatitis. It seemed like feeding small amounts more often helped with the vomiting - although she did get metoclopromide for nausea that last week or so. That might have helped too, but it's hard for me to tell if she was just feeling better on her own at that point or if it was the medicine.
The vet said I can stop the oil. He even told me to offer Bear some of his 'regular' food. He will not eat on his own but I gave him a tiny taste of authority wet (it went into the syringe no prob!) and a few kibbles of dry before I fed him the a/d this afternoon. I cut back the amount I was feeding him a little, I think that may have helped alot too. We may have been overdoing it. Thanks for the help, we need it!
 
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Thanks!

He has vomited smaller amounts for his last two feedings. I just fed him and he mostly vomited up some dry I assist fed him. It was partially digested with a small amount of wet food. Dry takes longer to digest, so this makes sense. He smacks his lips (nausea) everytime he smells his food or thinks I am going to feed him, so I am going to ask if there is a better stomach med than the one we have. He still has not ate on his own.

He pooped today, first time he's gone since he's been home. It was pretty bulky. I don't know if he pooed at the vets, I will ask tomorrow when we go in for blood work. He had food him him when we did the xray so it may just be that. I am glad though, it shows that his insides are still working. He is still yellow and sleeps the whole day, no intrest in getting out of his crate.

Bloodwork tomorrow.
 

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Have a peaceful night...
will be checking in tomorrow for an update.

Have an easy vet trip Bear
 
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Thanks for the vibes, we need them!

He just puked... about half of what I fed him. I mixed a little water with the a/d to help keep him hydrated but it seems like he doesn't tollerate it watered down. I am going to feed him again in an hour since he puked it up, it will give his tummy time to rest. Going to use straight Authority wet, it seems like he does better with it.

Depending on how much he keeps down between tonight and tomorrow, his levels tomorrow, and what the vet says - we may schedule an ulrtasound asap. I hope his levels have improved alot.

I go from feeling very hopeful to feeling hopeless.... I am scared that his levels might be bad tomorrow.
 

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Try to get some rest if you can...


Sweet Bear
 
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Thank you everyone, I really mean it.



Ok first, I fed him before we went to the vet and he kept everything down for the first time! He even licked at his water bowl twice! I've been giving him Pectin (vet said it's ok, it's for vomiting and diarrea) and I think that is what helped the most. It may be my imagination, but it seems like his skin isn't as yellow as it was.

Bloodwork is a little better!
I am one proud momma, I really think he will beat this! He is a super tough cat. We go back in on Mon-Tues for another blood work. The vet said if his Billirubin (some level on the blood work, it's super high) improves alot then Bear's chances of recovering will be good, and if he gets better than it's unlikely that he has FIP. He's been sniffling and I was worried about it being FIP, but the vet said it's from Bear vomiting, that he probably got it in his little nose.


He got some fluids today because he was slightly dehydrated. We were sent home with another med (Amoxicillion) and some cans of l/d (food for the liver issue)and a/d (high calorie food). The vet told me to mix it half and half, and that I didn't have to mix water with it (Bear doesn't do to good when I mix water with it) but it would be nice if I did get water in him. He said I could cut back to 3 syringes every 3-4hrs (they are big) if Bear couldn't keep 4-5 down, he thinks Bear was vomiting because we were over feeding him. The vet opened a can of l/d in the exam room and Bear acted interested but did not eat, he was *very* close to licking at it though! I have to feed him 1 & a half cans every day. He did loose a little weight, he weights just a little over 7lbs. He weighed 7.5 on Saturday but the vet said that it's normal.

If he still isn't drinking water by Monday/Tues I will ask if I can do SubQ fluids at home, I feel comfortable doing it Bear is not your typical cat. He tollerates almost everything, he did not flinch when they gave him fluids. I got to hold the needle in place while he got the fluids, he did not try to move at all. I was just petting him and holding the needle, lol.

It's been a rough week, from having to pts the stray (he was dying of FIP, barely able to stand) that I still feel terrible about, to Bear getting so sick. But things are starting to look up,I think he will make it.




Scan of the bloodworks side-to-side:



The level that the vet is most concerned about is TBIL (billirubin) it is still super high and ATL too, but the other ones are going down!!!!!!

EDIT: And he didn't get fluids before todays bloodwork either, so those are accurate results!
 

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I hope he keeps getting better.
I do fluids every other day and it is very easy to do.
Just be careful with the needle i you have to do fluids.
I have been cut a few times.
 

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The vet said if his Billirubin (some level on the blood work, it's super high) improves alot then Bear's chances of recovering will be good
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Jaundice (the yellowing of the skin) is caused because of the high Bilirubin. And as I mentioned in my previous posts "Ursodial" is used to treat this. It would be worth a try for Bear. Might help speed up his recovery.

Are you still giving the steroids along with the antibiotic?
 
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Originally Posted by mews2much

I hope he keeps getting better.
I do fluids every other day and it is very easy to do.
Just be careful with the needle i you have to do fluids.
I have been cut a few times.
Thanks!
It seemed simple enough when I read about it, with pics showing what to do. It was just as simple in person, but he's very cooperative and that makes a difference.






Originally Posted by Denali

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Jaundice (the yellowing of the skin) is caused because of the high Bilirubin. And as I mentioned in my previous posts "Ursodial" is used to treat this. It would be worth a try for Bear. Might help speed up his recovery.

Are you still giving the steroids along with the antibiotic?
I asked and he said that he has used it before, but that it would not do anything that Bears currents meds are not doing. He probably would have gave me some if I really wanted it. I am going to research on this, and ask if I can get a med specifically for high bilirubin. Thanks!
 

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I just want to say I'm following this thread and keeping my fingers crossed!!!! I am glad to hear his bloodwork looks better
for a full recovery soon!
 

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There are lots of us who are following Bear's story and are anxious about him and praying for a quick recovery! Glad to hear he seems to be "interested" in food, even if he's not quite ready to eat on his own yet. And his Bilirubin is slowly going down, so that's a good sign. At least it's going in the right direction.
 
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