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post #1 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:20am
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Tried this product for the first time yesterday. Have used Advantage in the past. Well, today her fur is still oily and has hardened where the drops were applied, like spikey hair When will this go away!? With advantage, the fur looked normal the next day. It says not the bathe within 24hrs. But after this i can use bath wipes/bathe right?
I atleast hope the product works
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post #2 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:22am
Wash it off, now! Right away! That stuff is known to KILL cats, I do not exaggerate.

Get that stuff off your cat and never use it again.
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post #3 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:23am
http://www.hartzvictims.org/
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post #4 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:24am
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Thank you! I will! and throw away the product!!
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post #5 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:34am
to your kitty that she will be okay, watch her closely. Maybe even give your vet a call and let him/her know.

I made the mistake of visiting the link, after positing it for you, I do every now and then, and the horror stories break my heart.
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post #6 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:41am
I used Hartz when my kitty first wandered in. It burnt her skin. I knew it was bad right away and when I got her to a vet the first thing the vet said was that that product can kill your cat.
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post #7 of 31
4/14/10 at 9:57am
It killed my friends dog.
I hate that stuff.
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post #8 of 31
4/14/10 at 10:12am
IMO I'd never use ANY kind of Hartz products - most of them either don't work or are toxic. I'd wash it all off now and get a better product to use.
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post #9 of 31
4/14/10 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by silva_unt View Post
Tried this product for the first time yesterday. Have used Advantage in the past. Well, today her fur is still oily and has hardened where the drops were applied, like spikey hair When will this go away!? With advantage, the fur looked normal the next day. It says not the bathe within 24hrs. But after this i can use bath wipes/bathe right?
I atleast hope the product works
Please make a call to your vet... as mentioned this company does not have a good safety track record
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post #10 of 31
4/14/10 at 10:22am
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Ok so i left school as soon as i posted. Got home and gave her a bath. She's grooming her self right now. It was so hard giving her bath by myself, usually boyfreind is there to hold her while i bathe her. Anyhow, its done and i've looked over her skin where the drops were put and its not red/burned so thats good. I honestly thought, before i posted this thread, that she didn't look so happy. She's usually bouncing off the walls in the morning. This morning she was just laying near me. She did have a good appetite this morning and ate most her food. She also jumped on the sink counter this morning to get a drink from the faucet.
I don't have a current vet, but there is the one i took her to when i first got her. They perscribed advantage multi to get rid of the tapeworms she already had! Thought that was weird and wanted to find another vet; plus they only take appts. Her yr exam isn't until june so thats when i was taking her to a new vet. Thank god that nothing has happened over the months that required vet care... until now, but i pray she will be okay.
I will keep an eye on her but have to be at work by 430, i'll be back home by 10. Boyfriend will also be at work during this time.
The topic on Hartz=BAD should be make a sticky so for those unaware will know not to buy!!
Thanks again Otto for responding so quickly!
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post #11 of 31
4/14/10 at 10:44am
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Just called the vet and they told me to call animal poison control. Wish this vet office was a little more helpful. Anyway they also said eating and drinking are good signs, which neko is. About how many days until i know i'm in the clear?
I'll keep you posted.
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post #12 of 31
4/14/10 at 11:04am
Call around to different vets in the area for someone who's a bit more helpful! Denton's not a huge city, but it's by no means a 1-vet town. (I went to TWU, so I know the area, but didn't have animals at the time so no vet reference.) You may even try calling a rescue group in the area and ask who they use.

Do you have the number for animal poison control? Here it is just in case you need it. You might give them a call and find out what to look for. I know that sometimes advise they give you have to pay for, so just a head's up on that.

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/poison-control/

ETA: You might try inboxing MrBlanche and see if he has a vet reference in Denton. I think he's in Lewisville.
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post #13 of 31
4/14/10 at 11:38am
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Thank you! I did find a holistic vet in Carrolton with great reviews, so i may start there for the future.
Thank you for the link/number. I gave animal poison control a call, they didn't charge me , and they said that its SAFE! WHat? anyhow He said if need, i should wash it off with dishwashing soap. I already gave her a bath with cat shampoo though. He also said that the product is only life threatening to cats when you apply dog flea drops on the cat, which will cause seizure and death. But I will take the forum's word on the situation along with the link otto provided that shows that cats have died/become ill from the product. He said cats dont like the feel of the product thats why she isn't very active...
Anyway, the product is in the trash!! I can continue with Advantage right? next month of course...
btw, neko just ate some more kibble
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post #14 of 31
4/14/10 at 12:07pm
Sadly, it is not safe. Push...push fluids especially if she is grooming herself- overgrooming is common, so is lethargy. Some of the problems might appear later affecting the kidneys. Best bet with flea products get them directly from your vet. This way you are covered if something goes wrong. Switch from advantage to frontline each month as the fleas build a resistance if you just keep using the same product over and over.

Hope your kitty will be okay-
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post #15 of 31
4/14/10 at 12:33pm
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THank you!!
Grooming mainly from bath, she has stopped now
Getting the hartz product off her with the bath has def helped. She wanted to play fetch!! Which we did for a little, Don't want her to get too tired. She did drink some water too couple min ago.
Switch advantage and frontline monthly, got it!
Thanks again everyone!
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post #16 of 31
4/15/10 at 9:27am
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Just wanted to leave an update. Neko is doing great! Eating and drinking well! And still begging me to play fetch with her. Just last night she was jumping in and out of the empty box my 10g aquarium was in
She also woke me up before my alarm clock like usual, which didn't happen yesterday morning.
Such a scare... so relieved!
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post #17 of 31
4/15/10 at 9:47am
Such a relief .... glad she is doing well....
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post #18 of 31
4/15/10 at 10:02am
That is good news, thanks for updating us!
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post #19 of 31
4/15/10 at 10:29am
Sounds like you narrowly avoided disaster. You may still want to talk to your vet in the future as she may need to be checked to make sure there's nothing lasting.

In the future, try the search function on here or post before using anything that you don't get from a vet (or just about any other product). You'll find information as to whether it's good, bad, or a waste of money.
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post #20 of 31
4/20/10 at 8:58pm
Glad she's doing okay.

Just an FYI regarding a vet, MrBlanche is in Lewisville and I think Carolinalima is in Carrollton. I'm sure either one would help you with a vet referral. When I posted earlier, I didn't realize you were in Lewisville. Sorry about that.
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post #21 of 31
4/20/10 at 9:20pm
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Thanks everyone! She is doing great; all kinds of hyper today! We even went out for a walk

I'll have to pm carolinalima about that, since the holistic vet i was wondering about is in Carrollton! I also noticed that there is a "Cat Hospital" on my way to work
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post #22 of 31
4/20/10 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by otto View Post
Wash it off, now! Right away! That stuff is known to KILL cats, I do not exaggerate.

Get that stuff off your cat and never use it again.
I haven't read any of the other responses on this thread but I echo this. Wash off with dawn dish soap or cat shampoo. Do not try it again and consider yourself lucky that is all that happened.
Encourage others you know not to use this stuff either.
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post #23 of 31
4/21/10 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
In the future, try the search function on here or post before using anything that you don't get from a vet (or just about any other product). You'll find information as to whether it's good, bad, or a waste of money.
including some products you get from a vet

Glad she is doing well, but do get bloodwork next time she is in the vet to check for possible issues
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post #24 of 31
4/21/10 at 8:41am
Just a recommendation Ive used BioSpot for my cats and dog I got it out of Dr Foster and Smith catalogue. I like this product not only because its cheaper but it worked. I only used it during the summer and a little into the fall when fleas are bad around here. Granted since Ive had pets Ive only found 2 fleas ever better safe than sorry. I know its still OTC flea meds, I got it at my local tractor supply store where they also sell Frontline and Advatage flea drops.
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post #25 of 31
4/21/10 at 9:13am
I have used BioSpot before with no side affects but it does leave a grease spot for a few days.
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post #26 of 31
4/21/10 at 9:20am
I have to chime in here and say that I disagree with the two above posters about using any over the counter flea meds.

I am glad neither of you have had any problems with Bio Spot, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, and will continue to urge people to get their flea products from their vet.
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post #27 of 31
4/21/10 at 11:01pm
I'm also going to chime in and reiterate that all OTC flea meds are unsafe. When looking for an appropriate flea (or other parasitic) medication, it is always best to discuss both what you're looking for in a medication as well as any concerns you may have with your veterinarian. And, for future reference as well, it is always in your best interest (and in the best interest of your pet) to have a vet on hand who is familiar with your situation as well as numbers for local emergency veterinary services.

As far as Hartz products, my opinion is stay as far away from them as possible. I know many individuals who have either lost or had their cats or dogs become ill following use of those products. In fact, a good friend of mine lost her previously healthy, 3 year old beagle to a Hartz flea repellant. And, another friend lost two of her young cats to the same (only for cats rather than dogs) and another became seriously ill and now has permanant kidney issues as a result. And, that's only the tip of the iceberg...

As far as BioSpot is concerned, I'd also recommend steering clear. My mother gave her cats this product (and, yes, it was the product specifically for cats) last year and out of five, lost three. The remaining two needed to be hospitalized for nearly a week and now have a whole host of medical issues that the vet feels is a result of the medication.

Just because a pet store or supplier sells these products does not make them safe. I hope they are, one day, pulled off of the shelves and discontinued. No pet should have to suffer due to a product that is purported to be safe. And, no pet owner should have to suffer the loss of their beloved pet or deal with serious illness.

I'm glad Neko is okay. Thank God for that. And, even though it was a scary situation, the fact that you posted has, most likely, helped a large number of people (both on TCS and in our personal lives).
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post #28 of 31
4/22/10 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
Glad she is doing well, but do get bloodwork next time she is in the vet to check for possible issues
I WILL make sure to do this next time she is in the vet, thank you!

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Originally Posted by Alison Joy View Post
I'm glad Neko is okay. Thank God for that. And, even though it was a scary situation, the fact that you posted has, most likely, helped a large number of people (both on TCS and in our personal lives).
Thank you, I too am glad that this may help others who are unaware of this.
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post #29 of 31
4/22/10 at 3:12pm
I am not in Carrolton I am in Dallas... However I HIGHLY recommend the vet I am using for my kitties now... It is the dentist office/ Animal hospital treating Bugsy and most recently Hope. These people are phenomenal and worth their weight in gold.

As far as dentistry, Dr. Wiggs, the founder was considered the father of veterinary dentistry, and was a monster of knowledge - he developed a treatment for stomatitis that has changed Bugsy's life - without extractions... People come from all over the country to treat with them.

As far as Veterinary, they have GREAT, AMAZING vets. They will do whatever they have to do to figure out what the problem with your cats is.

But must of all, you and your cats are family to them. You and your kitties come first money come second. They will treat your kitty, and find a way to work things out with you. I know this because I have been there quite a few times...

From the front desk manager, to the surgery technician, to the vets, to the dentists... This place is a mine gold when it comes to a vet's office.

Yep, I recommend them! They have been nothing but Amazing to me and my kitties - you can do a search on my threads when I was really in trouble with Bugsy and Hope and Lucky... They saved me... And again just did a great job with Hope when she got sick recently...

So........ If you want to come down to Dallas........ 1,000% Worth it!
Coit Road Animal Hospital/Dallas Dental Service
12600 Coit Road
Dallas, TX 75251
972-991-5170
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post #30 of 31
4/22/10 at 4:17pm
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Thank you Carolina! writing down the name and address for future reference!
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