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post #1 of 25
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If you haven't heard about this story, here's the Cliff's Notes version:

Single woman adopts 7 year old boy from Russia. She's a nurse, obviously seemed stable as adopters go through rigorous screenings before being allowed to adopt. She adopted this boy around September of last year. The adoption agency does regular check ups on the new family to ensure everything is going OK. Their last checkup was in January and according to them (I saw an interview with them today at lunch ) everything was progressing normally. He was engaged, proud of his accomplishments so far, he and Mom appeared to be bonding. Beginning in February they were no longer able to contact the mother by phone. As they don't have the resources or legal authority to do much more than that, they attempted to contact her multiple times.

According to her story, by late February the boy was psychotic and threatening to burn down their home. However, there is no indication that she took him to her pediatrician for the behavior problems, or any other medical professional. The adoption agency has many resources for parents of adopted foreign children, especially those coming from orphanages as they often have issues associated with their pasts. As noted above, she not only did not contact them she would not accept any contact from them.

So, she had her mother accompany him from Tennessee to Washington D.C. where he was boarded on a plane to Moscow, alone. He was met there by a man she had hired over the internet (for $200) to meet him and take him to the Department of Education. She gave him some cookies and a coloring pen for the trip, and a note that said this (there was more to the note, this is what was released):

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After giving my best to this child, I am sorry to say that for the sake of my family, friends and myself, I no longer wish to parent this child.

As he is a Russian national, I am returning him to your guardianship and would like the adoption disannulled.
Very different stories are emerging about this boy, and what happened:

From CNN: Grandmother: Adopted boy sent back to Russia was violent

From AOL News:
Starkly different portraits of adopted boy emerge

Grandmother: Boy terrorized adoptive family in the US

I can't keep track of which UK news orgs are rags and which are good. I think this is one of the rags that no one trusts. Regardless, this one does contain a photo of the actual letter she sent with him:

Fury as U.S. woman adopts Russian boy, 7, then sends him back alone


So what do you think about this? Should Torry (the mother) be charged with a crime? Should Nancy (the grandmother who took him to Washington DC and plopped him on the plane to Moscow)? Should all adoptions halt from Russia? Should Russia adopt more stringent rules on adoption like China has?
post #2 of 25
I read this on the news the other day its a bit bizzare, and cold potentially open a whole can of worms that shouldnt be, i think with everything thats happened between the US and Russia previously its going to have to be handled very carefully

i think the "mother" should hold responsibility for the child she has to be honest just abandoned, i mean could she herself not of spoken to the adoption agency and explained what was happening afterall she took on guardianship of the child
post #3 of 25
The mother's story reminds me of the movie "orphan"...
Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the issue, I have no idea what I would do if I adopted a child and it started saying things like it will burn down the house, kill someone, or do something violent....
It will definitely be a very difficult situation.
Now, I have no idea how true the woman's story is, but if it was, it would be very difficult..
post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
The mother's story reminds me of the movie "orphan"...
Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the issue, I have no idea what I would do if I adopted a child and it started saying things like it will burn down the house, kill someone, or do something violent....
It will definitely be a very difficult situation.
Now, I have no idea how true the woman's story is, but if it was, it would be very difficult..
Ut0pia, you and I agree on something.

Heidi, those UK rags are pathetic. They are as bad as ours over here that lie on a regular basis.

On a few forum I'm on they have been talking about this and the comments have ranged from, talking about the adoption agency that handled this adoption is not your four star adoption agency to the problem of violent Russian children being fairly common.

I think the woman should have flown the boy back to Russia herself. That would have been the right thing to do. 11 hours on an airplane by himself at that age. I have to wonder why on earth an airline would have taken him.

I have a 12 year old grand daughter I would love to fly out here from Iowa, 1,500 miles away, non-stop, 2-1/2 hour trip, and their rules won't let her fly by herself until she turns 14
post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
The mother's story reminds me of the movie "orphan"...
Anyway, I have mixed feelings about the issue, I have no idea what I would do if I adopted a child and it started saying things like it will burn down the house, kill someone, or do something violent....
It will definitely be a very difficult situation.
Now, I have no idea how true the woman's story is, but if it was, it would be very difficult..
Not sure how I feel about it either, though I do think the child should have been accompanied on the plane.

I think it would be very hard to adopt an older child, with an unknown background and perhaps questionable treatment in the orphanage.
post #6 of 25
I just have to wonder, how long his behavior went on. I mean, children that age don't just decide to be good for a bit and then act out, from my experience. I wonder if something triggered his response. Maybe he was abused in Russia, and someone yelled at him, pushed him, or tried to abuse him? I'm not saying this woman did that, but maybe someone in her family?

You'd think a violent behavioral problem would present itself early on. Her account sounds almost as if he snapped. :/
post #7 of 25
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When you adopt a child you take on all legal guardianship for that child, as if s/he were your own. What would she have done if the child she gave birth to had a mental illness or had been abused out of her care and snapped like that? What would she do if her own child became violent, whether suddenly or not? Would she have flown that child to a far away place, paid someone $200 to take him/her to a Dept. of Education with a note saying that "S/He's your problem now."?

Now...would it change your mind to know that during all of this sudden "violence" from this boy, she was pursuing adopting another child from Russia? Or that since this incident that she's refusing to talk to police in any way?

I also find it really interesting how there are so many inconsistencies in the stories here. In the one where the grandmother tells what happened (the CNN story) everything she says is either inclusive ("It wasn't that he was just energetic and wearing us down.") or singlular ("I still have energy and I love children."). Was the child her responsibility or her daughter's? There's also differing stories about what the "final incident" was - was it that he attacked his aunt with a statue or that he set a fire?

Maybe it's just shoddy reporting by one source or another, I don't know. I think it's more likely that the AP (source of AOL's story) and CNN did get their interviews straight, but the person who took an online lawyer's word that they could annul the adoption and got the kid on the next plane out of the country didn't keep her story straight.
post #8 of 25
I'm sorry - but you don't just dump a kid (or pet) you adopt. Period. (It's a pet peeve of mine)

Everybody has their issues. Their doesn't seem to be much solid information out there, so I'm not passing judgement. Like others mentioned - it could've been the adoptive mother, the agency, the kid - who knows.
post #9 of 25
I find the whole thing ridiculous and wrong. I think the woman (and possibly the grandmother) should be charged at the very minimum with child endangerment. If he had problems, wouldn't you at least take him to a doctor and/or psychiatrist and try to help him instead of just shoving him on a plane back to Russia?

She should be banned from ever adopting a child anywhere, ever.
post #10 of 25
This woman didn't need a child and should be held criminally responsible for sending him back alone.

I do emphatize with adoptive parents who end up with a violent child. I saw a couple on televison who had tried everything to help the very violent little boy they adopted. The adoption agency was aware of the boy's past and behavior, but lied to the couple. Then the couple was told they could not legally give him back to the adoption agency? How could they handle a child that was killing animals and trying to kill other children, etc?
post #11 of 25
This story reminded me of a situation with a former co-worker. He adopted a young child from China (took him 2 years to get thru the paperwork) and the child they adopted had undisclosed, serious, lifelong medical issues. He was always leaving work to take his adoptive son to one doctor or the other. I asked him how he felt about all of this and I'll never forget his response: "What am I going to do? Ship him on a plane back to China? No, he's my child."

He checked into adoptions from that country and has found out that more often than you would expect, they are adopting sick children out to foreign countries. The parents didn't have the resources to handle them, the country doesn't have the resources to handle them, so they are adopted out elsewhere.
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by Momofmany View Post
This story reminded me of a situation with a former co-worker. He adopted a young child from China (took him 2 years to get thru the paperwork) and the child they adopted had undisclosed, serious, lifelong medical issues. He was always leaving work to take his adoptive son to one doctor or the other. I asked him how he felt about all of this and I'll never forget his response: "What am I going to do? Ship him on a plane back to China? No, he's my child."

He checked into adoptions from that country and has found out that more often than you would expect, they are adopting sick children out to foreign countries. The parents didn't have the resources to handle them, the country doesn't have the resources to handle them, so they are adopted out elsewhere.
I don't think she should have shipped him on a plane alone. I can tell you through many adoption conferences I have attended, adoption break down from out of country adoptions are quite common. Several years ago there were a lot of adoptions out of Russia and Romania, many of those children have ended up in ther care of the ministry for children and families. Many of they children have been exposed to drugs and alcohol. Have serious medical issues. Or have attachment issues from been left tied into beds for hours and not being held or touched. I adopted a son at the age of 5 with serious attachment issues. He came from a very poor foster home here in Canada. It was well over a year and a half before I could even touch him. He hit, bit, punched, kicked, he even peed on the floor when he was mad. Our families all wanted us to send him back. I could not give up on him. William is now 12 almost 13, there are very few hugs, never a kiss. But when I am not well. I will wake up with a blanket over me, a glass of water and some crackers beside me. And my house will be spotless. I know it was him. I don't regret adopting him . It was the hardest thing I have ever been through.
post #13 of 25
I don't know what the specifics are about foreign adoptions that don't work out, but I'm sure there's a legal way to handle it. I think sending the child alone on a plane across the world with some random stranger on the other end to pick him up was a bad decision and could have possibly put the child in serious danger. The parents should have handled this the legal way. Now its just one big mess.
post #14 of 25
I know that most airlines have escorts for children flying alone. To make sure they get to their destination, especially with plane changes.

I think it is very sad that this lady couldnt give this 7 year old more than 6 months. I know I have heard of adopted children having some emotional or mental problems (some, not all) but isn't that a known fact that, that is a possibility? Especially, a 7 year old, wouldn't you understand that this child, who is orphaned, has lived 7 years of life already, with a great possibility of great sadness surrounding him?!
Children need guidance in this life. Would her commitment have been greater if she had actually birthed him and he was having issues?!

This story in particular seems odd that it was never mentioned to the adoption agency that was doing in-home visits. And if he suddenly "snapped", he certainly deserved to be taken to a Dr. to find out what was going on. It could have been anything, not just his past, but anything from his present life.

She just gave up on a 7 year old child. There is no telling if what she has done to him will create issues in his life or even if he will ever get medical attention, if he needs it.
post #15 of 25
at work one time I was doing some research and came across a firm of lawyers that specialize in finding new homes for children that were adopted but the adoptive parents no longer wanted them. It made me sick to my stomach Like Heidi said, what if your biological child had issues? you don't give up on them, you do your very best to work through them. When you adopt a child you are committing to care for that child thru thick and thin. The way I look at it is that these children already probably have abandonment issues already, if the parent that chose them doesn't want them anymore, what does THAT do to their fragile psyches? I find this woman and her mother's actions absolutely reprehensible. Reminds me of the cowards that drop their unwanted animals off in the night drop off at a shelter, disgusting
post #16 of 25
I believe medical help should have been contacted. If the boy was threatening he should have been taken to a pediatric psychiatrist first thing. I understand that this was not her child by blood relation but she adopted him! I understand the problems with our current medical insurance industry but as someone who works in the industry I'm sure she could have found someone who would pull some strings or at least work out a payment plan. I've done this myself and I don't even work in the industry. There are good people in the medical field in this country. There is someone who will help pull strings... you just have to find them.

As far as the kid being sent back. I do not agree with the decision to send him back, let alone sent back ALONE. I feel there should have been more action with the mother. If she wanted to return him to Russia I feel the adoption agency should have been contacted or some kind of Russian authorities at the very least. I wouldn't even know how you are supposed to legally "return" an adopted child to be honest...
post #17 of 25
People can judge all they want but when you start being afraid to go to bed because you may be murdered in your sleep, that's a tough one.


And Pami, I sure would like it if Snowball could come live at my house.
post #18 of 25
I do think that there needs to be a metaphorical panic button set up for when people adopt with the best of intentions, just cannot handle the kid's issues, and need to place the kid elsewhere...it's awful, but not every good person can rescue every child. Maybe this was a case where that button should have been pushed; everything we read in the news is automatically second-hand information at best, and not even an expert child psychologist would try to make that evaluation from hearsay.

However, there should have been extensive interventions (off the top of my head: pediatrician to rule out medical causes, evaluation for medication by a pediatric psychiatrist, regular family counseling, regular play therapy or similar with a child psychologist, placement in a nearby inpatient psych facility when he became too much to handle at home) before taking the extreme step of sending him back, and if it came to that, hiring someone from the internet to ride the plane with the child was the wrong way to do it since "someone from the internet" could just as easily have turned out to be a pedophile or child sex slave trader.
post #19 of 25
They just announced on the news that Russia has put a hold on all US adoptions because of this case, they want to make new laws and regulations about adoptions

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...cca3AD9F678U01
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/53089


It also mentioned that the boy has been seen by a doctor and is due to be released from hospital today
post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21 View Post
They just announced on the news that Russia has put a hold on all US adoptions because of this case, they want to make new laws and regulations about adoptions

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...cca3AD9F678U01
http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/53089


It also mentioned that the boy has been seen by a doctor and is due to be released from hospital today
That is so sad!! It is hard enough as it is to adopt in this country, and adopting from foreign countries seemed like a great thing for people wishing to adopt.
I hope Russia just makes better laws and regulations,but continue adoptions to the US.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by ut0pia View Post
That is so sad!! It is hard enough as it is to adopt in this country, and adopting from foreign countries seemed like a great thing for people wishing to adopt.
I hope Russia just makes better laws and regulations,but continues adoptions to the US.
This is truly sad. I have a first cousin who adopted two children, a boy and a girl, from the Ukraine. They are special members of our family and very loved.

I wonder if this woman should have ever been given custody of this child in the first place. In my way of thinking, an adoption is a commitment. She never even had the child checked by a doctor. The child may be better off without her.
post #22 of 25
The article says it is just until the new regulations are formed, as long as other countries agree to the new regulations
post #23 of 25
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People can judge all they want but when you start being afraid to go to bed because you may be murdered in your sleep, that's a tough one.
I get that, but for a nurse to decide to forgo any medical or psychological exams at the very least seems...odd. To say the least. The first 4 months went well, according to her story and the adoption agency's home checks. Then suddenly she wouldn't answer or return their calls - an agency that also had many resources to assist with difficult adjustments or children with issues.

Adopting children who have been abandoned at an older age and/or who have been in orphanages for many years takes a special person and a real commitment to that child. Agencies do everything they can to screen adopters to ensure they can support that child mentally, emotionally, physically and financially. They also provide a lot of resources for those parents and children that will have problems adjusting.

She refused to talk to them, let alone use the resources they had. She didn't use the resources that she had as a nurse. When she was told that they could annul the adoption, she didn't go through the proper channels, just shipped him off on the first flight back to Moscow. She had no commitment to that boy. After 6 months, the majority of them good according to all sources, she had no connection to him at all.
post #24 of 25
You know, I'm beginning to think the "mother" in this case was the one with psychological problems. Refusing treatment is a classic sign, isn't it?

I wonder if she has any comprehension how many families and children she has hurt.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by mrblanche View Post
You know, I'm beginning to think the "mother" in this case was the one with psychological problems. Refusing treatment is a classic sign, isn't it?

I wonder if she has any comprehension how many families and children she has hurt.
She probably doesn't care. After all, her treatment of the little boy was the equivalent of tying a dog one can't be bothered with any more by the side of a highway.
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