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post #1 of 58
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Hi there, I really need some advice as I'm worried about my cat.

She a worried type, very indoor cat and wouldn't go further than the shed on a sunny day. But, yesterday evening she was no where to be seen and my cat was in heat. Shes already been pregnant once, do you think that she could of gone searching for the same Tom again?

Getting very worried by the minute, do you think she will come back?

Thank you
Benjamin
post #2 of 58
Hopefully she will... Probably so, and very pregnant.
Sorry, but why hasn't she been spayed yet since her last pregnancy? And I am also sorry to ask this too, but I have to... How come an intact female cat in heat is allowed to run loose? The least that can happen to her is a pregnancy, please keep that in mind.
To answer your question, a female in heat will go after any Tom, not an specific one, and many will come after her.

Please, for her health, spay her ASAP.

Vibes to your poor little girl
post #3 of 58
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Hi there Carolina.

Unfortunately I'm not a professional with cats unlike yourself. I have intentions of her getting pregnant but I wasn't of knowledge that she could be in danger from that? Please explain.

At the moment I don't have plans for her to be sprayed. Why should I exactly?

An update on her whereabouts, I've contacted the RSPCA and they will contact me if someone phones.
post #4 of 58
Why do you have intentions of getting her pregnant?

Every heat cycle your cat goes through increases her risk of many diseases, including pyometra and cancers. As well, they experience increased anxiety and stress because they want to mate which can cause issues itself.

As far as being outside, she will be looking for a mate but every intact male cat will be looking for her, male cats can be vicious in fighting over a female in heat, and the female can get stuck in the middle of the fight and injured.

Only purebred cats, where the breeder is looking to continue the breed should be bred, and only to health guaranteed purebred males, not just any cat on the street
post #5 of 58
There are also complications and risks associated with pregnancy itself.

Not to mention communicable diseases she can pick up from other cats while roaming... such as Leukemia and FIV. Vaccines are not 100% at preventing disease!


Im not as familiar with cat reproduction as I am with dogs.. but I know dogs can indeed get STD's.. Im sure there are diseases in cats that can be spread thru sexual contact as well. Someone who knows more about cat breeding may be able to shed more light on the subject.
post #6 of 58
Yes, cats can get STDS
post #7 of 58
Hi Benjamin,

You don't mention where you live. Where I live cat overpopulation is a huge problem. Only one kitten out of each litter gets a life long home - those are poor odds. That is the biggest reason why many pet people are big fans of spaying - too many pets not enough homes.
post #8 of 58
Please read the TCS rules:

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2. Please make sure to spay and neuter your cats. Unless you are a professional breeder and your cat is part of a professional breeding program, please educate yourself to the importance of spaying and neutering by the time your cat is 4-6 months old. If you take care of a feral colony, please make sure to do so responsibly by practicing TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) protocols within the colony. By spaying and neutering, you enhance a cat's quality of life and improve their longterm health. You are also proving your love for cats because in acting as a responsible pet owner/caregiver you are minimizing the problem of cat overpopulation.
Thousands of cats are euthanized each year in the US because there aren't enough homes for them all. In fact, I've been responsible, on several occasions, for deciding who to euthanize at the local shelter. Please have your cat spayed, for her health & safety.
post #9 of 58
Thread Starter 
Hi Pat Traufield
The country I live doesn't have problems with cat population.

Hello white cat lover
I feel very insulted with your comment. I love my cat very much, I've been worried sick for a day now and the last thing I need to be told is I hate her through stupidity.
Unfortunately, I'm not a cat expert. I merely googled "cat advice" for support.

Thank you for your comments. As soon as I find my cat I will seek professional advice on the dangers of my cat not being sprayed.
post #10 of 58
Benjamin..
Please dont feel insulted. There are many people that don't know the risks associated with pregnancy or leaving a cat intact. Many people also are not aware of the population problem either.

This is what an internet forum is for- to educate and to learn. Stick around, learn- and soon you will be one who is offering advice too!

I do hope you find your kitty. Do keep searching.. take a photo to your neighbors and ask if they have seen her. Post up some flyers. I suggest using the word "REWARD" on the flyer.. you dont have to offer a big reward, but people are more likely to return a pet they have found if they think they can get abit of money for it. Also do check local shelters to be sure she isnt there. Dont call them.. go check. Only YOU can properly ID your kitty!

Please get her spayed once found. She will be less likely to try to wander if she is spayed.. if she's not wandering, then you wont be going thru this worry!
post #11 of 58
What country do you live in, Benjamin, because I find it hard to believe that ANYWHERE is suffering from a shortage of cats.
post #12 of 58
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Hello nekkiddoglady
I live in England.

Hello Pat Traufield
I intend to use this forum again for cat advice. However I'm not sure where my place would stand on being a regular member. How could I contribute to this type of forum with little knowledge of the subject?

Those ideas are great. The RSPCA centre is only open on Tuesdays which I find very frustrating, but I will pop there next week. I've also asked my neighbours to keep an eye open.

Thank you for the kind advice.
post #13 of 58
I do hope you find your cat soon or that she comes back of her own accord. I also hope she lives a long and happy life with you. But you can help her have a good life by getting her spayed - forgetting the total population, individual cats that are spayed or neutered have a better chance. They have fewer cancers for example. A female cat is at risk of picking up infectious diseases, some of them very serious, every time she mates and she can pass some of these on to her kittens. Pregnancy and giving birth can cause complications, especially if a cat continues to have one or two litters per year as she would if allowed to mate whenever she goes into heat. And as you have discovered, a cat in heat will disappear for days in search of a mate and can meet with all kinds of accidents.

A cat does not miss being pregnant or having kittens, she does not know about such things, and your cat will be much calmer and happier if she is spayed. I suggest that when your cat returns you have a talk with a vet about it all and then you can make up your mind.

Once again, I send you good vibes for her return safely.
post #14 of 58
I hope your cat returns safely soon, and you can get her spayed ASAP.

England absolutely does have problems with overpopulation of cats - too many cats die each year because the shelters are full.

The most responsible thing to do with a litter of kittens is to ensure they have their vaccinations, are dewormed, had flea treatment, and vet checks, and are spayed/neutered before they go to a new home. You should also make sure you have a contract with the owner saying they will never give away or dump the cat, that they will bring it back to you if they can't keep it for any reason, if your vet won't spay/neuter before 8 weeks when they're ready for adoption, that the new owner promises to have it done as soon as they are old enough. You should also be willing and able to take back any cat that the owner can't keep in the future.

If you cannot do all of these things, then you should consider having your kitty spayed ASAP which may involve aborting any kittens if she has been able to get pregnant.

But please do go and talk to your vet about what is best for her, and I sincerely hope that she returns very soon, I'm sure you love her very much!

Do stick around, even if you can't contribute a lot to other people's kitty problems, you can get a lot of helpful advice regarding health, nutrition, behaviour and other related things.
post #15 of 58
Benjamin,

We all have to learn at some point. While you might not know things yet, if you stick around you will learn a lot. EVERY country has a pet overpopulation problem - maybe you just are not aware of things.

Its far better to spay your female as soon as she comes home and not let her have another litter of kittens who may wind up in shelters and killed due to lack of homes.

Unspayed females can get pregnant at every heat cycle and the longer you allow this to happen, the higher the risk is of pyrometra (infection of the uterus) or early cancers. You don't have to "seek the advice of professionals" to know the dangers.

I do hope you find her quickly and then call your vet and have them do an emergency spay right away. Your cat will be happier and healthier.
post #16 of 58
Hi Benjamin. We have lots of members in England, please remain as one of them. I joined TCS before I owned my first cat (and I knew very little), and since then I've learned a lot.
post #17 of 58
Hi, i do hope your cat returns.

being an english member, there is a huge problem with an overpopulation of cats
post #18 of 58
Thread Starter 
Thank you jennyranson, sarahp and GoldenKitty45.

I believe my cats (and previous kittens) don't have any sought of disease of I know because I did get the recommended vaccinations , I believe the flu one? but I'm not too sure.

I will pop to the vet however when my cat comes back to see if shes pregnant. At the moment I don't want to abort the possible kittens but if they are infected without cure then I guess the value of life wouldn't be as great.

My cats name is Misty by the way
post #19 of 58
There are many more vaccines than "the flu one..." Since she is allowed outside, she really needs the core vaccines including rabies (and IMO spayed).


I am not being mean at all, but I am very curious... Why do you feel the need to breed a no-breed cat? If you want kittens, you can foster a momma cat & kittens though your local cat org, who really need help. What is the purpose of breeding her, honestly?


I hope you stick around, I really do. Your not stupid, or anything... just mis-informed.

Many that Misty comes back healthy and happy, and not preg!!!!
post #20 of 58
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Originally Posted by KatKisses View Post
There are many more vaccines than "the flu one..." Since she is allowed outside, she really needs the core vaccines including rabies (and IMO spayed).
In England? Do they even vaccinate for it anymore unless one is taking their pets to a country with rabies?

But yes, please just go get her spayed. Waiting, then checking for kittens is a waste of time and money. You could get her spayed ASAP and put your money to better use - protecting your cat.
Since it's normal to let them roam there, is she microchipped? If not, that's another thing to consider.
post #21 of 58
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I do believe my cats have the recommended vaccines besides the spray.

My cat had three kittens in the past. All three of them survived birth but one shortly died a few days later after trapped liquid in the lungs. I kept one of the kittens who is now called Merlin and about 6 months old, healthy and plucking along as cats do. The other kitten was given to my mother after it was ready to be separated.

I wish to breed my cat because theres a nice feeling of accomplishment knowing them kittens came from the mother you have looked after since she too was a kitten.
I have asked the RSPCA before about adoption but their policy won't allow us to adopt any animal with children under the age of five in the house.

Please don't worry, I have no intentions of selling the kittens. I intend to keep two kittens at least and the rest to be spread out across the family who are very interested themselves. If for some reason there are kittens left over then I will just accept more.

At the moment I have two cats, I work from home with weekly updates and I'm very happy with the idea of more animals.
post #22 of 58
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Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
I do believe my cats have the recommended vaccines besides the spray.

My cat had three kittens in the past. All three of them survived birth but one shortly died a few days later after trapped liquid in the lungs. I kept one of the kittens who is now called Merlin and about 6 months old, healthy and plucking along as cats do. The other kitten was given to my mother after it was ready to be separated.

I wish to breed my cat because theres a nice feeling of accomplishment knowing them kittens came from the mother you have looked after since she too was a kitten.
I have asked the RSPCA before about adoption but their policy won't allow us to adopt any animal with children under the age of five in the house.

Please don't worry, I have no intentions of selling the kittens. I intend to keep two kittens at least and the rest to be spread out across the family who are very interested themselves. If for some reason there are kittens left over then I will just accept more.

At the moment I have two cats, I work from home with weekly updates and I'm very happy with the idea of more animals.
I think I remember you as the guy who was not able to afford a "stud" fee to breed your cat, so any orange cat would do. But you were able to afford having kittens. I was as confused then as I am now.
post #23 of 58
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Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
I wish to breed my cat because theres a nice feeling of accomplishment knowing them kittens came from the mother you have looked after since she too was a kitten.
I have asked the RSPCA before about adoption but their policy won't allow us to adopt any animal with children under the age of five in the house.
Well, that's a rotten policy. There are some children that are wonderful with pets and they benefit a lot from growing up with a pet in the home.

As for that feeling of accomplishment. Have you ever considered fostering kittens? You'd get the feeling of accomplishment, you'd get to have kittens in the home, and you'd be helping kittens stuck in rescues/shelters that otherwise could die - then you could help those rescues find interested adopters for some of those kittens instead of them being euthanized.
post #24 of 58
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Originally Posted by Staceyloobug View Post
I think I remember you as the guy who was not able to afford a "stud" fee to breed your cat, so any orange cat would do. But you were able to afford having kittens. I was as confused then as I am now.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what your saying?
post #25 of 58
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In England? Do they even vaccinate for it anymore unless one is taking their pets to a country with rabies?
No theres not really a need to vaccinate for rabies unless like you say we are taking our pets to another country

Also i have not heard of the RSPCA saying things like that i know some of my friends have adopted animals and have very young children

when in England are you maybe they have different polices?
post #26 of 58
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I'm located in Cumbria. A few years back we were going to adopt a cat until we were told of this policy. So we had to buy one instead basically.
post #27 of 58
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Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
I'm sorry, I don't understand what your saying?
I believe she was confusing you with a different member.
post #28 of 58
You may not have much to contribute to the forum now, but everyone has to learn somewhere. Like I said before, stick around- learn- and soon you will be giving advice as well!

The rescue center may only be open Tuesday, but someone has to be there taking care of the cats. Call them up, let them know you are missing a kitty and see if you can come and see if your cat is there.


I dont really understand a "sence of accomplishment" regarding raising a litter of kittens. I find a sence of accomplishment in taking in an unwanted pet, getting it into full health, and either having the cat adjust to my household, or finding a more suitable home for it. I feel a sence of accomplishment when I get a pet altered- knowing how many potential litters were prevented just by getting that ONE animal fixed.

There's plenty of rescues and shelters available. One shelter may have a policy against adopting to homes with young kids, but another shelter may require nothing more than an ID and the adoption fee. There's lots of unwanted pets that need homes. With the warmer weather, there will soon be plenty of "free kittens" available as well. I can pick up any newspaper, or check an online classified site and easily find a cat or kitten "free to good home". I cant justify any reason to risk a pet's life just to obtain kittens- not when there's plenty out there that need homes.
post #29 of 58
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Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
I do believe my cats have the recommended vaccines besides the spray.

My cat had three kittens in the past. All three of them survived birth but one shortly died a few days later after trapped liquid in the lungs. I kept one of the kittens who is now called Merlin and about 6 months old, healthy and plucking along as cats do. The other kitten was given to my mother after it was ready to be separated.

I wish to breed my cat because theres a nice feeling of accomplishment knowing them kittens came from the mother you have looked after since she too was a kitten.
I have asked the RSPCA before about adoption but their policy won't allow us to adopt any animal with children under the age of five in the house.

Please don't worry, I have no intentions of selling the kittens. I intend to keep two kittens at least and the rest to be spread out across the family who are very interested themselves. If for some reason there are kittens left over then I will just accept more.

At the moment I have two cats, I work from home with weekly updates and I'm very happy with the idea of more animals.
Benjamin, we're not worried about you needing to sell kittens. We're worried about your cat not being spayed and being able to have kittens in the first place.

I can sort of understand your opinion that there's a sense of accomplishment in having your cat give birth... but if you do a little bit of searching, you'll find that there are there really are so many cats and kittens that need homes (even in the U.K., and even in Cumbria! I'll provide a list) that as most of us have learned - and many of us learned here - to feel a sense of accomplishment at saving cats and kittens lives by not taking up homes that could adopt cats and kittens that have already been born.

Preventing un-needed kittens is a big part of loving cats, at least the way most of us have come to see it.

Many here have suggested fostering pregnant mom cats and/or kittens as a way of experiencing that same sense of accomplishment - and there is an organization in West Cumbria that states it is in desperate need of foster homes!!!!!!!!!!!

Please scroll through the list of organizations in Cumbria and see the hundreds of animals that need homes here - it says "Hundreds of cats and kittens for adoption in Cumbria on Cat Chat's rehoming pages!" : http://www.catchat.org/adoption/cumbria.html

Here's another list of organizations in Northern England with many cats for adoption: http://www.petloversonline.co.uk/rescue.html

And another one: http://www.animalrescuers.co.uk/html/centresnorth.html

If you want more animals, and your family wants cats, why not consider adopting ones that need homes already?

The sense of accomplishment you'll feel in saving lives rather than creating lives might be something that will feel even more wonderful. It's just not something you had the chance to think about before, but please consider it!

Something else to consider. If your cat gives birth to five kittens, and they're all female - what happens when all those females give birth to 3-6 or 7 more kittens? And what happens when those females give birth to 3-6 or 7 MORE kittens?

It is not just that it is healthier for your cat to be spayed and for your male cats to be neutered (it's just as important! Think of it this way - apart from the health reasons, if you have a son and he gets a girl pregnant, he's just as responsible for that baby, right?) - it is that it is considered responsible pet ownership everywhere to not allow your non-pure bred cat to breed.

From the U.K. organization, Cat Chat (which provides the list of adoption agencies in the first link), they say

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There are 21,000 reasons why you should get your cat neutered - because that's potentially how many offspring could result from one un-neutered female cat and her descendants in just seven years!

There is a cat over-population crisis in the UK today, which results in 1,000's of healthy but unwanted cats and kittens being destroyed EVERY DAY because there are not enough homes to go round. This sad fact is true also for dogs, and neutering is the only humane answer.

Neutering your cats, male or female, is the best and most humane way of reducing the stray cat population, helping lower the instances of F.I.V. and fight-injuries, and preventing healthy cats from being destroyed.

FEMALE CATS - 'Shouldn't we let her have one litter?'

It is a complete myth that a female cat should be allowed to have one litter. There is no biological or psychological benefit to the cat whatsoever. If you allow your female cat to have a litter, and manage to find homes for the kittens, they have then used up homes that kittens sitting in a rescue centre could have had, which may then end up being destroyed.

Many female cats come into season, get chased far from their home by un-neutered males and end up completely lost, pregnant, and living on the streets. This is how feral cat colonies are formed. They struggle to survive, often hungry, and frequently becoming sick or injured.

Many stray, un-neutered males carry the FIV virus, and female cats are often infected if they are bitten during mating. Males often infect each other with FIV or feline leukaemia when fighting over a female.

A female cat should be neutered (spayed) at 5 - 6 months but can be neutered at any age. Neutering can be done earlier, provided the kitten is in good health, but you will need to be guided by your vet. To prevent unwanted litters, your kitten should be kept indoors until it is neutered. Even if your cat is to be kept as an 'indoor cat', it is kinder to neuter her, as she will still come into season, which is very frustrating for her and for you. Un-neuterd females are also more at risk of developing cystic ovaries and the potentially fatal pyometra.

MALE CATS - if you love them, get them neutered!

When an un-neutered male reaches maturity, he will begin to roam further afield in his quest for females, exposing himself fight injuryto territory battles with other males, and risking his life on busy roads. Those that roam too far will join the UK's estimated two and a half MILLION strays living on the streets today, and face a very bleak future.

Un-neutered male cats are very aggressive towards other cats, particularly other un-neutered males. Their fights result in horrific bite injuries, abscesses, damaged eyes, and infections such as FIV. With no-one to take them to the vet, many injuries become infected, and often result in death.

Male cats should be neutered at six months, but can be neutered at any age thereafter. If your cat is kept indoors, neutering is still the best option. Neutering will prevent him from become sexually frustrated and continually trying to escape, and will also save you from the smelly problem of urine-spraying. Having the snip will not 'change his personality', that is another common myth without any basis in fact.
They have further links to low-cost spay/neuter services. Here is the link: http://www.catchat.org/neuter.html

When your kitty comes home, please consider having her spayed as soon as possible rather than waiting to let her have the kittens.
post #30 of 58
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Originally Posted by Benjamin View Post
I'm sorry, I don't understand what your saying?
I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, but your logic is just very confusing to me. There are a lot of things you can do to feel accomplished. Letting your cat outside when it's in heat and hoping that it comes back pregnant doesn't seem like something an accomplished person does to me.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
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