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post #1 of 56
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My bf and I have 2 cats, we met a stray cat (Nala) a year ago, and she became very attached to us. We started feeding her, and took her in during the cold weather. It's warmer weather now, so we brought her back outside (we build her a little house shelter, food/water bowls, she wasn't happy confined inside.)

She misses us terribly, and waits by the backyard door all the time. However, our neighbor has a Belgian Shepard (big German Shepard type dog, (40lbs) Very friendly, calm older dog. I watched them interact, and the dog was just sniffing around, when suddenly Nala (6 lbs) ran after him and started swiping at him very aggressively.
Our neighbor chased her off and rushed his dog back in, as any caring owner would. This is what my neighbor and I feared, keeping her in the backyard can no longer be an option I'm thinking.

The thing is, my bf and I have a 1 bedroom apartment. It's not a small place, but we already have 2 cats, one of whom didn't get along with her. We tried for months to find her a home, but no luck.

Could her attack on the dog just be because of the stress of being back outside? I mean if it's a one time behavior, that's something we can work around.
This just happened, and I'm literally freaking out. If we bring her to a shelter, confined, and around several animals, I know it will bring out the worst in her. I am 90% sure that shelters will deem her adoptable.

Should I ask our vet for advice? She's the sweetest little thing once you get to know her, whenever she sees me or my bf she runs down the street to us. Always comes and licks us, would always cuddle at night, ..etc.

Sorry this is so long, I just want the background to be clear. Will she attack the dog again? Why did this little cat go and attack a big dog? What should we do...?
post #2 of 56
If she hasn't had a recent vet check, it's always good to get one in.

None of my cats are dog friendly and a few of them would behave the exact same way your kitty did. One (a spay female), that already wants to attack other cats, is very territorial. Avoidance is the easiest way for me to deal with it. She's simply not allowed the chances to interact and attack with animals I know she will be aggressive with. (sorry, poor birds that fly into our backyard. )

How large is that yard? Do you have a ground floor apartment? If so, you could look into getting a large dog kennel (with top) or build her an enclosure. If she's good with your other cats you could even try making a window entry into it and let them all out into the enclosure. (I actually recommend the dog kennel with top and bottom because they're not permanent - you can take that apart and move it)
This way she gets to go outside, she gets more time with you if she can come in, and the neighbor's dog is safe.

The other solution is to just keep her in.
post #3 of 56
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Her last vet check was in January, I believe that's when she had the last of her shots (She's quite young, just turned 2)

Hearing that your cats act the same is somewhat reassuring, because I just thought it meant she was terribly aggressive or something. But why would such a small animal go up against a much larger animal?

Yes, we live in a ground level apartment. The dog kennel sounds like a great idea, but I don't think our backyard is large enough for one of those =T She has a shelter of her (that she never uses) that looks like this:

http://www.cozycatfurniture.com/cedar_cathouse.html

But the thing is, she went after the dog. It wasn't like she was backed into a corner or anything, the dog could have cared less if she was there.

Our tom cat of the house, does not get along with her at all. It got so bad we had to separate them. Once the tom cat didn't like her, his subordinate brother followed suit (despite initially liking her, sigh)
post #4 of 56
We have seven cats living in an RV, all rescues. It takes work when one doesn't get along with the others, but there are things that can be done to help, if you want to consider bringing her back in again.

Is it possible she wasn't doing well inside because of her relationship with the other cats?

Is she sitting beside the back door because she wants in???????????

Have you tried Feliway, Bach's Rescue Remedy (flower essences), and are you familiar with the process of introducing cats? (Things like scent swapping and such? Working with them to get them to associate each other with good things, and giving the resident cats attention first so they remain secure and not as jealous, etc.)?

Do you have any - let alone a lot of vertical space for them? Can you put up "cat shelves?"

We have a small space - so we provide a lot of vertical space. We also have narrow passage (hallway) - so we put down large thick cardboard "cement forming tubes" that you get at a Home Depot - they're 8" diameter, I think - so that kitties can pass in the hallway without having to interact and no one can block up the hallway territory....

Would you like more specifics and ideas - are you considering bringing her back in? How unhappy was she or the other kitties and how bad was it?
post #5 of 56
They are all spayed and neutered, right? Sorry - I just got confused by the term "Tom cat"....
post #6 of 56
Sorry, but where is the option to keep her in?

There are ways to properly introduce her to your cats, and have them all living well under one roof.
This does not sound like an aggressive cat to me, but a cat who was terribly afraid of what to her, in her perspective, it was a monster - "attacking" was her defense. It was the only way to scare the dog off.
Many of us have 3 cats in a small apartment, including me, some of us have many more in even smaller spaces... It can be worked out, if done properly. We can definitely help you there.
It sounds to me that she wants in, if she is hanging by your door like that... The poor thing
post #7 of 56
I just saw there was a poll, and I'm not gonna vote. I expect the shelters are full right now, and a 2-yr old doesn't have a lot of chances to be adopted so quickly.... I'd bring her back in, but it will take work.
post #8 of 56
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Originally Posted by j_eden View Post
But the thing is, she went after the dog. It wasn't like she was backed into a corner or anything, the dog could have cared less if she was there.
I assume you outside with her. Did the dog get close to you at all? Or in any way that a cat might perceive it as the dog getting closer.

I could be way off base here but I bet she did it because she thought she was protecting you. Cats can get territorial and possessive over space and over their people (or cat/dog housemates). They'll also act this way over their kittens.
My childhood cat attacked a German Shepherd that got too close and growled at me. One of my kitties, now, is possessive of me to the point of going after other cats that try to approach me when she's in my lap.

I still suggest an enclosure of some kind if you're not able to have her inside, simply because I don't believe any pets should be roaming loose. It causes problems for others and heartache for the owners.
post #9 of 56
Thread Starter 
Oh.... I was not outside with her at the time. I had just left being outside with her, and she usually lingers around the door after I leave, begging to come inside.

But since she has just gone back outside, I observe her behavior from time to time without her knowing I'm watching, so see how she is adjusting.

I mean she was sitting ontop of her shelter (the area of her food/water), prior to going after the dog. Could this just be territorial behavior because of that?

An eclosed area sounds like the best idea, but wouldn't the cat feel confined? We could just keep her in there during the night time or something, but I'm not sure what sort of enclosers can keep a cat inside.

Thanks a lot for your great advice by the way, I thought we were out of options. It helps to know there still are things we can do.
post #10 of 56
Keep her inside.

You said how much she misses you and how unhappy she is outside. She doesn't sound to me like she feels confined inside, I think you are projecting feelings on to her.

You say she WANTS to be inside. Please bring her back in. It must be very terrible and confusing for her to be suddenly forced to live outside after being welcomed into the home.

Since she was once a stray, it probably feels like she is, again, being dumped.

Your neighbors should not be letting their GSD wander free. It is up to them to protect their dog, by not allowing the dog to wander.

If your male cat isn't neutered get him neutered.

It was good of you to take care of her, but Nala is no longer a stray, she is YOURS. You are a three cat family now.

Welcome to TCS! I look forward to hearing more about all three of your cats.

But, please, let Nala rejoin her family, where she belongs.
post #11 of 56
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Originally Posted by j_eden View Post
I mean she was sitting ontop of her shelter (the area of her food/water), prior to going after the dog. Could this just be territorial behavior because of that?

An eclosed area sounds like the best idea, but wouldn't the cat feel confined? We could just keep her in there during the night time or something, but I'm not sure what sort of enclosers can keep a cat inside.
Ok, she probably was just being territorial. Cats can be touchy over odd things... and personally, I think female cats can be even worse than males for being territorial.

A cat proof enclosure is anything that they can't slip under, through, jump, or climb out of. If you get all of those bases covered, you should have a confined cat. And yes, she may not be too happy about it but she will get over it. If you want a complete kit, and don't mind spending a little more, scroll down and click the purr-fect fence link near the bottom of the page.

I suggest you make it as large as you can and, again, up against the house (cheaper - you have a free wall there) and let her and the others come and go through a door or window.
post #12 of 56
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She misses us terribly, and waits by the backyard door all the time.
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and she usually lingers around the door after I leave, begging to come inside.
please let her back inside. Don't force her to live outside after taking her in. I know I already said this, but, the poor little girl, it's breaking my heart. (and hers)
post #13 of 56
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Originally Posted by LDG View Post
We have seven cats living in an RV, all rescues. It takes work when one doesn't get along with the others, but there are things that can be done to help, if you want to consider bringing her back in again.

Is it possible she wasn't doing well inside because of her relationship with the other cats?

Is she sitting beside the back door because she wants in???????????

Have you tried Feliway, Bach's Rescue Remedy (flower essences), and are you familiar with the process of introducing cats? (Things like scent swapping and such? Working with them to get them to associate each other with good things, and giving the resident cats attention first so they remain secure and not as jealous, etc.)?

Do you have any - let alone a lot of vertical space for them? Can you put up "cat shelves?"

We have a small space - so we provide a lot of vertical space. We also have narrow passage (hallway) - so we put down large thick cardboard "cement forming tubes" that you get at a Home Depot - they're 8" diameter, I think - so that kitties can pass in the hallway without having to interact and no one can block up the hallway territory....

Would you like more specifics and ideas - are you considering bringing her back in? How unhappy was she or the other kitties and how bad was it?

Yes, I am most certain that she was stressed inside because of the other cats. We tried introducing them slowly, first through swapping scents (we used a blanket at first), next we would allow each of them to explore the other's room without seeing eachother, allowed them to interact through closed doors, and for a while it was fine. All animals are spayed/fixed.
Things were never great, but our two boys tolerated her for a bit. We thought we could keep her until we found her a better home, but what started as a rare occurance, became much more frequent, our (Tom cat was the wrong term.. I mean the dominant cat in the house) would start to test the boundaries/tease her, he does this to his submissive brother as well, but his brother ignores it. Nala, the stray's reaction is to stand ground, and attack. We had violent very violent fights, thankfully the cuts and wounds weren't serious.

Even when we isolated her (into the bedroom) she seemed depressed most of the time, and would look out the window all day. Our other cats were upset with the living situation as well, they hated being seperated from us at times.
When we brought her back outside she immediatly lit up, started running around exploring. But after a little while, she begs to come back in. Begs, cries, waits patiently by the door, my bf thinks she just needs more time to get used to being away from us, and that it will take time (I don't agree)

We have a bit of vertical space, high shelves, book cases, cabinets, but if it could help to put more in we definitely have room. I have never thought of that before actually, your responce was extremely helpful, and has given me a lot more possibilities.. Thank you very much.

Do you think judging from your experience and what I have told you, that we could work things out? Have you had cats who violently fought at least get to the point of tolerating one another?
post #14 of 56
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please let her back inside. Don't force her to live outside after taking her in. I know I already said this, but, the poor little girl, it's breaking my heart. (and hers)
This is what I think... it absolutely breaks my heart, I've probably cried just about every day/night since. But if she can't get along with our two other cats, my boyfriend can't take the living situation anymore.

Unless I could prove to him that all three cats could tolerate each other (or there was a definite adopter), I don't think he would be willing to bring her back in. Our two other cats are also rescue cats, but I think 3 is reaching the limit for him, considering the house size and reaction of our other cats.

His thinking is that since she grew up outside, she could adapt back to living outside, and that we should give her a few weeks to adjust before we make hasty decisions. But I think we're making a mistake, and it seems like most of you do as well.

What do you cat owners living in smaller quarters will 3 or more cats do? Personal experiences would be really helpful.

Thanks again everyone for taking the time to read the situation, and give me your thoughts/advice on it.
post #15 of 56
Cats look out windows because they like to look out windows, it doesn't mean they want to be outside, just means they like to look out the windows.

It must be terrible for you to be in the middle of all this.

I understand about the other cats, but, it will work out. Get some Feliway plug in diffusers, that will help. Get some rescue remedy and dose them all, and rub it on them all.

I'm about to go to bed so am not thinking much, but may have more suggestions on how to help their relationships, in the morning.
post #16 of 56
Thread Starter 
Otto-

Oh. It's good to know that she might not have been longing to be back outside that whole time.

Would Feliway need to be used every day? I'll do some research on this, because I have heard of this product before. At least for a temporary fix.

Thanks a lot , if it wasn't for your responces and others I really would not even know what other options I had. It's a big relief to hear some of the things many of you are saying, it gives me some place to at least start looking into.
post #17 of 56
Hi there,

Here is the link for Feliway, yes, you use it every day... The refills last a month; it helps a whole lot...
Please please bring her in... She is begging to come in... She must be feeling so abandoned and confused...

The window for a cat is their 56" HDTV, nothing more than that. It doesn't mean at all that they long the outside! They enjoy looking outside from a safe place.

What I did in my house can help you some... I put cat shelves in the walls for very little money, and my cats LOVE it!!! In addition, I have a cat tree, and window sills, so they can watch the outside as much as they want, and they can also go away from each other as they please. I live in a tiny one br apartment with three cats too.

Here are some picture for you:




post #18 of 56
Introducing cats can take a really long time, especially for a stray who may have had to fight other cats to survive before you started feeding her (and even after if other cats came to your garden for her food)

As far as your BFs thinking, she probably didn't grow up outside, otherwise you probably couldn't even touch her and certainly not cuddle her at night, someone dumped her out there, probably when she needed to be spayed.

By keeping her through the winter, she became your cat (most areas, it takes just 3 days of you having them inside to prove ownership) and you have a responsibility to her.

I would take her back inside and start reintroductions, Feliway was already mentioned and is a pheromone diffuser that calms cats, it is a plug so just leave it plugged in all the time.

As far as cat enclosures, for a house cat, I don't recommend them for full time living, but if you want to give her access to the outdoors without worrying about her attacking dogs, they are a good idea.
http://habitathaven.com/cat-enclosures.html this one is the company most people here use if they don't make their own, they sell in new york too
post #19 of 56
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-Carolina-

Did you also purchase those shelves at Home Depot (as someone else mentioned) ? Are they sturdy, as in can handle larger cats? (one of our cats is a very large male of around 14-15 lbs.)

I think this might be a good idea either way, because it would give our boys some more places to jump and sleep.


(Here's a picture of them, this picture is so weird, it's hard for me to imagine they could ever be in the same room, West is the bigger tabby, Nala the smaller one on the right, and Hamlot is the big black guy)

I've informed my bf on all of what those who have posted in here think, but I don't think he will budge on taking her back in. He cares about Nala, but the situation is becomming too much for him to handle. His family gives him enough trouble for having 2 cats, 3 is out of the question. And he is very strong on respecting their wishes.

The very first cat I ever lived with, suffered from a kidney disease her last year of life. Watching Nala wait and pine at the door, feels worse, because death brought my first cat out of suffering. Being outside continues Nala's suffering.

Is there anything we can do to help her adjust better outside.. are there chances that she can ever adjust? Perhaps we should limit our time with her?

Could she still be adoptable from living outside? I have such an intense gut feeling to do something, and I'm willing to do whatever I can, but I'm up against a wall with my bf and his family's decision. And I know the neighbor will not be pleased.

(Financially, I don't think I could afford one of those cat enclosures at this time.. As nice as they are, sigh. I don't make a lot of money, because I am also a full time student. My bf and my family do not support me further trying to help Nala, so they would not financially help that venture out)

Both my family and my bf think we have tried our best, and it's time to let it go. But I'm not alright with that. I appreciate each and every one of your responces, this is a very helpful and supportive online community.
post #20 of 56
...as to the staring out the window - I'm not sure the cats understand that is "outside." As others have pointed out, it's just like a giant live-action TV. Cats love watching everything moving out there. We put up bird feeders that stick on the windows, and they LOVE "hunting" the birds. They wiggle their butts and attack the window.... Squirrels at the feeder are even better, as they catch on quickly the cats can't get them, and they love to taunt them.

I can help with lots of ideas on how to make it work inside, but it does take time.

I have no ideas how to help a kitty "adjust" to being back outside, because I've never done it - and would never do it.

How about try writing a note to your bf explaining how much it means to you, and you're so saddened about his lack of concern for another life and his lack of patience is disconcerting and makes you worry about having a family together in the future if that is what is in store for you two at any point.... What would happen if you had a child together and the baby suffered from some type of psychosis (god forbid) that made him or her have aggression problems with you two or other people? What if your child was handicapped in ANY way - that requires a certain kind of patience, care and tolerance.

Sorry - but those are the first questions that occur to me. ...but I don't make distinctions between lives, and I consider our animals part of our family.
post #21 of 56
Hey, I'm impressed that the three of them are as close as they are in the photo! Believe me, when I got my boy, my girl definitely wouldn't get as close as the three cats are in your picture - but, within a few months, they'd sleep on the bed just inches from each other, and now they do groom each other. That's not to say there's not an occasional spat -but I did try to make sure I told each cat how much I love them and that they're both my special babies. I know, funny, but I think cats can be insecure if they think a new 'person' is taking their place in the family.

Seriously, looking out the window does not mean they actually want out. My little girl spends hours looking out the patio door, but the one time she went out on the patio, she froze and couldn't wait to get back in. And she promptly started looking out again.

I'd say let your boyfriend know how much you appreciate him for trying to understand how you feel about Nala, and what a great guy he is for trying to make things work out for all three cats. Let him know you really understand his challenges but how much you love and respect him for standing up for you and Nala, and you appreciate his patience - that it makes you love him more. That his protecting Nala and making sure she's ok inside shows you what a good man he is.

From what you've said, I think Nala definitely wants to be an indoor cat. If you can add some features to your place so all the cats have more places to call their own and get away from each other occassionally, it'd be good - cats use vertical space as well as floor space as territory. I have two cat trees - it's funny watching how the two cats switch off taking 'charge' of a tree.

Good luck - Nala's lucky to have you in her corner, but I do think the poor little girl just wants to live with all of you, and with time everything will work out.
post #22 of 56
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Originally Posted by darlili View Post
I'd say let your boyfriend know how much you appreciate him for trying to understand how you feel about Nala, and what a great guy he is for trying to make things work out for all three cats. Let him know you really understand his challenges but how much you love and respect him for standing up for you and Nala, and you appreciate his patience - that it makes you love him more. That his protecting Nala and making sure she's ok inside shows you what a good man he is.
j_eden, I went back and re-read your post, and I read it wrong, sorry. I think darlili's advice is much better. Every once in a while you have to stand up to your family - it's great that he's strong on respecting their wishes, but basically it is about saving a life.
post #23 of 56
I am the kind of person who would tell my BF to go live in the garden and take the cat in
post #24 of 56
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I am the kind of person who would tell my BF to go live in the garden and take the cat in
me too....
But that is besides the point...
I am confused about something though: You said you live in a tiny one BR. apartment, right? So... I am assuming you live alone with your boyfriend, right? So, how come his family has so much say on this decision? They should have no say whatsoever here... Unless you were living in their home - can you clarify that, so we can help you better?

About the wall:

Yes, those are super cheap shelves from home depot. Both the shelves and the brackets are Rubbermaid. I used heavy duty drywall anchors, to hold up to 70 pounds each. My heaviest cat is 19lbs, and he runs around on it without a problem - in fact, he is the white cat on the first picture.

I covered the shelves with the thinnest carpet available at Home Depot, dirt cheap, I juts asked them to cut me 2 strips for me, and I cut it with regular scissors at home, and glued on with a glue gun. Something like a couple of dollars per strip of carpet.

The whole project took me less than an afternoon to do it on my own, from buying to assembling to hanging, and my cats use it a LOT, a good part of their day is spent on it, either playing chase, watching time go by, or just relaxing....

The whole thing, including shelves, brackets, carpet, glue gun, anchors, screws, even an automatic laser guide for hanging it straight since I was doing it alone, cost me less than $100. I believe Shelves brackets and Carpet would be about $60-70.

BEST kitty investment I ever made.

Here is Lucky' seal of approval for the Self

post #25 of 56
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Okay, update on the situation......


A lot has changed over the past few days. Surprisingly enough, my bf was right. She likes to come over to us every now and then, but she no longer pines at the door, this behavior slowly stopped each day. We took her in for a bit, because we wanted to see which she preferred.

She was very upset indoors, she was nothing like how she was back when she lived with us. She kept hissing at us, and ran out the door the minute we gave her the choice. Then outside, she'll go back to being a doll to us.

She'll sit by the door sometimes, but if we let her in, she'll want out right away? It's very change.

I have to bait her inside if I want her to come in. Still worried about the dog situation though, because she picked a fight with him again, and he chased her this time, up a tree. She got down alright, but I wish there was some way I could get her to stop messing with the dog.
post #26 of 56
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please let her back inside. Don't force her to live outside after taking her in. I know I already said this, but, the poor little girl, it's breaking my heart. (and hers)
Me too, Otto. But I was afraid to have that opinion and have it misread.

I also agree with the person who said she probably wouldn't be adoptable. You say in your original post that she would be, but in my experience, it's normally the youngest cats that go to homes, sadly. I adopted Butters and Rosalita (below) at 1 year and 1.5, and they had been at the shelter for 9 long months waiting for a home. I still think about that, and I feel a little sick that they were there that long, but I do think they were waiting for me.

Anyhow, yes. You said twice that she badly wants inside. Just let her in! The people on the site are very knowlegeable about introductions and living in small spaces. Let them help!
post #27 of 56
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
me too....
But that is besides the point...
I am confused about something though: You said you live in a tiny one BR. apartment, right? So... I am assuming you live alone with your boyfriend, right? So, how come his family has so much say on this decision? They should have no say whatsoever here... Unless you were living in their home - can you clarify that, so we can help you better?

About the wall:

Yes, those are super cheap shelves from home depot. Both the shelves and the brackets are Rubbermaid. I used heavy duty drywall anchors, to hold up to 70 pounds each. My heaviest cat is 19lbs, and he runs around on it without a problem - in fact, he is the white cat on the first picture.

I covered the shelves with the thinnest carpet available at Home Depot, dirt cheap, I juts asked them to cut me 2 strips for me, and I cut it with regular scissors at home, and glued on with a glue gun. Something like a couple of dollars per strip of carpet.

The whole project took me less than an afternoon to do it on my own, from buying to assembling to hanging, and my cats use it a LOT, a good part of their day is spent on it, either playing chase, watching time go by, or just relaxing....

The whole thing, including shelves, brackets, carpet, glue gun, anchors, screws, even an automatic laser guide for hanging it straight since I was doing it alone, cost me less than $100. I believe Shelves brackets and Carpet would be about $60-70.

BEST kitty investment I ever made.

Here is Lucky' seal of approval for the Self

This picture is ADORABLE!
post #28 of 56
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Originally Posted by j_eden View Post
Okay, update on the situation......


A lot has changed over the past few days. Surprisingly enough, my bf was right. She likes to come over to us every now and then, but she no longer pines at the door, this behavior slowly stopped each day. We took her in for a bit, because we wanted to see which she preferred.

She was very upset indoors, she was nothing like how she was back when she lived with us. She kept hissing at us, and ran out the door the minute we gave her the choice. Then outside, she'll go back to being a doll to us.

She'll sit by the door sometimes, but if we let her in, she'll want out right away? It's very change.

I have to bait her inside if I want her to come in. Still worried about the dog situation though, because she picked a fight with him again, and he chased her this time, up a tree. She got down alright, but I wish there was some way I could get her to stop messing with the dog.
Well, if you're set on having her outside, please at least make me feel a little better by telling me she is spayed? Right?

And I know this is a serious problem for you, but I do have to laugh at a little cat going after a huge dog.

I'm afraid if she must be outside, your only other option if she has to be outside and she can't be near the dog is to pen her. But like someone else earlier said -- the dog should also be restrained. I'm thinking the DOG should be restrained moreso than the cat, only in the eyes of the law. There are leash laws for dogs (there might be some sort of law for cats, but I don't know). Right? Can you talk to your neighbor about a compromise? Why should you put out the expense of a fence if the neighbor won't, you know? It's a joint-problem. Maybe he could help you with the cost of the fence?

And if the boyfriend refuses to let her in, maybe you can compromise there, too, by telling him he'll have to help you pay for the fence, then.

I'm sorry. I'm trying to brainstorm here, but I really am only repeating what's already been said, and they proved to be not possible.
post #29 of 56
My neighbor has a few cats and one of them will attack my dogs if they go into their yard. Was the dog in your yard? My cats as well will attack a dog or cat that strays into our yard.
post #30 of 56
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We share the backyard with our neighbors, and he's one of those guys that sort of take the easy way out with a dog. Instead of walking them, just let them out into the backyard. But the dog is old, 12 years old, so it isn't hyperactive or anything.

I mean the dog wouldn't even really go after her if she didn't come after him, (yes, it's a funny image to think about, but I still don't get how such a little animal can be so tough) And she goes all out, back arched, fur all puffed out, attacking with intent to hurt..etc.

We want to get her spayed, but with how she acts now, how could we go about in keeping her inside while she recovers? It seems like she's stressed indoors (plus the overnight at the vet alone).

I'll probably make a post on the stray/feral board concerning TNR, and try to find some info. on that, because I think she needs to be spayed.
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