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Mother Cat Won't Tolerate Her Kittens

post #1 of 23
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I have a Queen who had a litter of kittens about 6 months ago. She has always been the most even tempered/easy going cat and was a great mother. We ended up keeping a few kittens and when the they turned 5 months old, she started moaning and hissing at them. It has progressed to swatting and sometimes chasing them. One had a scratch on his nose (I assume he got too close). She won't be in the same room as them without being a total grump and if we try to handle her while she is in the same room as any kittens, she turns on us. She has been this way for over a month. I know that sometimes mothers will "de-nest" their kittens to wean them, but the kittens aren't trying to come to her to nurse (haven't for a long time) and she is still acting this way without signs of getting better. Is this normal behavior? Will she ever tolerate the kittens again?

We have another adult cat that the mother is fine with and isn't showing this behavior towards.

Also, she is not spayed, but all of the kittens are. She did go into heat close to the same time this behavior started, but I did not breed that heat and she hasn't gone into heat again. I wanted to have 1 more litter with her, but if spaying her increases the chances that this behavior will go away, I will retire her (as I plan on keeping her as my pet when she is done breeding).

Has anyone encountered this before?
post #2 of 23
Is the mother cat spay, yet? And have you or will you be getting the kittens spay and neutered soon?

It's actually normal behavior. Kittens can breed at around 6 months so mother cats want to drive them off before there's any inbreeding. It's actually natural in a lot of animals to chase their young, or at least young males, away from their home territory.

If all of them have been altered, look into using feliway diffusers and if it escalates further, try reintroductions.
post #3 of 23
Well, if you're still wanting another litter out of her maybe the only solution is to move some of the kittens out in to new homes soon? (I know, not as easy as it sounds) There's a chance that even spaying her won't get rid of that behavior, so you have to weigh it against breeding her again.
She's probably had/having another heat, which could be making her more fussy.

IMO, some female cats are just weird about stuff like this. Spayed or not. Plenty of us have females that once they've made up their minds about another cat, that's it. Nothing but time, hopefully, settles things down.

You could, if you don't get good answers here, try the breeder's corner. The members that frequent it will have better tips and may have a better answer than just "spay her".
Maybe try rescue remedy, if you're not using it already?
post #4 of 23
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We have already placed the kittens that left a long time ago. We kept a couple because they're the only breed I can own due to allergies. So they are "our" kittens really with no plans to re-home them. I would spay her and retire her before considering getting rid of our other pets.
post #5 of 23
Oh, just two of them? No need to get rid of anyone. Your first post made it sound like you still had the whole litter - that's what I misunderstood it as.
post #6 of 23
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There were actually 5 in the litter, and we kept 3 of them (2 boys and 1 girl). I didn't want to keep that many, but my husband pouted until I let him have the two he wanted to keep.

We are moving at the end of the month, and I may try spaying her within the next couple of weeks and leaving her and the other cat she doesn't have an issue with at my mothers (where we currently live now). Give it about 3-4 days and then try to bring them to our new house. If that doesn't work, then I am not sure what else to try.

I will try Breeders corner (I'm new here, so I didn't even realize that was here). Thanks for the suggestions!
post #7 of 23
I hope all goes well! Ah husbands, they always end up talking us into another one... or three.

I hope you stick around and like the community, and to see pictures of your Siberians sometime in the Fur Pictures and Video section of the Cat Lounge.

I've always wondered something, those that get a Siberian because they're allergic the protein found in regular cat saliva... what do they do if they find out they have the IgE trigger after they already have the cat?
post #8 of 23
What breed is she?

Are the kittens spayed or neutured ?
post #9 of 23
Thread Starter 
She is a Siberian. All of the kittens are altered.
post #10 of 23
This will sound dumb but How many cats in what amount of space>?
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
Also, she was very confused at first. She would hiss and moan at the kittens if they came near her, but then other times she would lay down and allow them to nurse. It gradually progressed to where she is mad at them all of the time. They have not nursed or tried to nurse for some time now.
post #12 of 23
I've merged the 2 threads since the same people are likely to read both forums. Yu should be able to get plenty of useful advice in the Behaviour section. Good luck!
post #13 of 23
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We have 5 cats total in a 4 bedroom townhouse (about 1,700 square feet). We put the kittens in a different room at night so she can have some "alone time" and she is always super happy and loving and content towards us after they go to bed.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
I hope all goes well! Ah husbands, they always end up talking us into another one... or three.

I hope you stick around and like the community, and to see pictures of your Siberians sometime in the Fur Pictures and Video section of the Cat Lounge.

I've always wondered something, those that get a Siberian because they're allergic the protein found in regular cat saliva... what do they do if they find out they have the IgE trigger after they already have the cat?
People who tolerate Siberians are allergic to the FeD1 protein in cat's saliva. Since Siberians have little to none of this, some people with cat allergies can have them. Usually Siberian breeders will have an interested person test with the adult cats to make sure there's no reaction before allowing the allergic person to adopt the kitten. This avoids a lot of the hassle of adopting one out and then having the owner have to bring it back. Personally, no matter the age, I will take any of my kittens back if this happens and find them a new home.
post #15 of 23
^Actually, I meant more about the people finding out they're still allergic after they've already fallen for the new cat/kitten. That would be terrible after they get their hopes up. Some people learn to cope, and how to bathe their cats, though.

Btw, 4 in 1,700sqft sounds fine. Some of us have more in less space.
post #16 of 23
Thread Starter 
If an allergic person doesn't react to the adult Siberian parents (who they test with before getting the kitten and becoming attached), they won't suddenly develop an allergy to them later. At least it would be really unusual.
post #17 of 23
This all sounds pretty normal to me, just a big pain. I've had several females who attack their kittens after a certain age. Part of it could be from the weaning process She might accept them again once she begins cycling, but the rejection could be permanent. Just be prepared to have to keep her in her own seperate quarters as long as you are breeding her; some queens are just that territorial.
post #18 of 23
Humans do that too, it just sounds more like "have you applied to colleges yet?" She's ready to be done raising them.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by ebrillblaiddes View Post
Humans do that too, it just sounds more like "have you applied to colleges yet?" She's ready to be done raising them.
Im completely useless help wise but omg did that statement make me crack up laughing...that is just too funny!
post #20 of 23
Thread Starter 
I have made an appointment to get her spayed on April 1st. Hopefully this helps the problem.
post #21 of 23
No more kittens.

Since she'll come home smelling like the vet that would be a perfect time to do complete reintroductions - as if these were new cats that hadn't met before. There's threads on here for it.

Good luck.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by strange_wings View Post
^Actually, I meant more about the people finding out they're still allergic after they've already fallen for the new cat/kitten. That would be terrible after they get their hopes up. Some people learn to cope, and how to bathe their cats, though.
When I volunteered at an animal shelter I was there one day with my friends just hanging out and there was a woman at the counter surrendering her cat. She was just absolutely sobbing and was totally distraught, she was allergic to it and couldn't keep the cat because her allergies were so bad. The cat was a very beautiful long haired adult black female. They saw me and asked me to take her to a cage even though I wasn't working. The cat was wet from the woman's tears, I mean this woman was beside herself about having to give her very loved cat up. By the time I got back to the cat room I was crying as well, I just couldn't imagine having to do that when I had bonded and loved the cat so much and having no choice but to surrender the cat due to severe allergies. If I remember correctly the cat wasn't there long before finding a new home. I was 13 and this was in the early 90's so the animal shelter was her only choice.

Depending on the severity of the allergies some have to re-home the cat others can manage with medication and/or bathing the cat. This woman's allergies were too severe. My dad is deathly allergic to cats, at one point Nanny(his mom) had 13 dogs and cats(obviously all outside this was the '50s) so he is very aware of his allergy. I was worried about transporting Nuts in their car to the vet today after mine ended up with a flat and the spare was flat as well so my car was out of commission until we got the spare aired up and we were already running late to his appointment after they went above and beyond to work me in. My dad looked at me like I was crazy and told me to just take the cat to the vet in the car(he was at home with Bobby so he wasn't going to be in the car.) In his case if he had a cat he would have to give it up, no amount of anything medication or even bathing the cat daily would make his life bearable living with a cat.

Like I said it depends on the severity of the allergy. Some can find ways to work around it others have no choice but to surrender the cats and most react the same way as the woman did, I know if I had to give up Attitude or Nuts I'd be beside myself.

Taryn
post #23 of 23
I forgot to add: Biter is very accepting of the kittens staying around, 2 males and a female, all unaltered, but I will say that Biter has been spayed so she isn't a 'kitten factory'(she was born to Mama who was dumped by her owner I'm assuming, Mama seems knows exactly what to do with a litter box and will use one perfectly if inside a house, in this case her and Biter were just popping out more and more kittens, all leukemia positive which only made it worse, I'm not talking about breeding females) anymore. Mama also had no problem with her kittens sticking around even before she was altered, all adult females, Biter(still around), Goldie(disappeared, think she might have become coyote food), and Callie(adopted by a nice family last summer after her 3 kittens she had had homes.) In fact Mama still has no problem with Biter being around and she's around 2 years old.

Taryn
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