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Some issues with Lucky

post #1 of 16
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As some of you know, Lucky had a Dental procedure done yesterday, to fix a crossbite that was creating holes on the roof of her mouth, making her stopping to eat.
Anyways, I am concerned about a few things... I am a little sad that she is hiding from me and seems to be traumatized from the whole thing...
Lucky was the one kitty who did not hide from me... Not anymore. She got here as a shy cat, and it took me a LONG time, and a LOT of work, and a LOT of patience to get where I am with her not, and to gain her trust...
To see her in hiding again completely breaks my heart in a thousand pieces... And this is just the first day of giving her meds... I can not even imagine how our relationship will be by the end of the 10th day

Something else that happened today that scared me a lot was that she aspirated the meds this morning. I shot the antibiotics on her mouth, and a some seconds later she had a weird cough, sounded like a VERY congested child, like she had a lot of fluids in her lungs.... which brings me to the following scary issue:

Yesterday, when I picked her up from surgery, the Surgeon Vet Tech came out, and said that there was a concern that she was very congested during the procedure, and in looking through her records, they saw that she had been taken to the vet for a cough back in October.
Then he asked if I had tested her for FIV??? Since this issue had never been resolved since October? FIV???

In my mind the issue HAS been resolved - Lucky is not coughing, or sneezing, or congested at home at all, and I am with her 24x7, 7 days a week... This caught me by surprise...
But The cough this morning did scare me, as it did sound like congestion... so.... Since I had to take Hope in for her shots anyways, I made a point to discuss Lucky too.

My vet looked at Lucky's x-ray from October, and saw that there was no congestion, no fluids, nothing that showed anything of concern.
He also said that the cough this morning is consistent with aspiration, and not congestion.
As far as yesterday, he said the it could very well be extra salivation due to stress.
He said that if she has no symptoms at home - no cough, no sneezing, no congestion.... there is not even a concern. He is not worried about it at all.
Just to watch her, and if she shows signs of congestion that doesn't go away, then take her in... But he was not worried...

What do you all think of this?
Oh, and how do I prevent aspiration? Clindrops taste awful, she doesn't eat wet food, so I can not mix it with anything...
post #2 of 16
If they put a tube down her throat it can cause coughing.
It happened to Wrinkles.
I hope she feels better.
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by mews2much View Post
If they put a tube down her throat it can cause coughing.
It happened to Wrinkles.
I hope she feels better.
oh, ok... Yes, they did...
post #4 of 16
Sounds like that is part of the problem.
post #5 of 16
Carolina, could you put the pill in a small piece of cheese. It works for my cats at times. Also Muffin is taking Denamarin now. I went to the local pet store and bought what they call a piller. It looked too big, but actually when I tried it, it works really well. Pry open mouth with left hand and shoot it as far in the back of the mouth as possible. I then give water in a syringe. I also have seen a piller at my vets office that holds the pill and some water too. I have not tried it, but the idea sounds like a good one. I hope Lucky will continue to improve. You deserve a break.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by blueyedgirl5946 View Post
Carolina, could you put the pill in a small piece of cheese. It works for my cats at times. Also Muffin is taking Denamarin now. I went to the local pet store and bought what they call a piller. It looked too big, but actually when I tried it, it works really well. Pry open mouth with left hand and shoot it as far in the back of the mouth as possible. I then give water in a syringe. I also have seen a piller at my vets office that holds the pill and some water too. I have not tried it, but the idea sounds like a good one. I hope Lucky will continue to improve. You deserve a break.
Hi there, it is not a pill, it is liquid... Clindrops...
post #7 of 16
Expect a lot of weird, nasty-sounding coughing for up to a couple of weeks, it's normal after surgery, but still upsetting to hear!

Do you need to give her a big dose? If so, it might be easier to divide it between two syringes and give them one at a time, with a bit of a break in the middle. We did that when we had to give large liquid doses to our kittens, and while it was still no fun, the medicine always stayed down. Whereas trying to do it all with one syringe was a disaster.

Good luck, and don't worry about the cough....
post #8 of 16
Carolina...you and your kitties continue to be in my prayers daily. It seems that you are still being tested, doesn't it?

How much to you give Lucky at one time? One cc, 1/2 cc? I know when I give Cleo her liquid meds (pediatric iron drops, or Flagyl when she was on it) I put them into gelcaps immediately before giving it to her. This helped not only with the awful taste, it also prevents aspiration. Cleo is a pretty large cat at 15 pounds, but the largest gelcap that I'm able to use with her is a size '0'. It comfortably holds 0.7 cc (also called ml depending if your're medically trained.) The '1' size holds 1/2 cc. I order mine online (I'll include the link) but you can often find the larger sizes '1', '0' and '00' in health food stores.

Here is where I purchase mine:
http://www.capsuline.com/index.php?cPath=1_5_6
I've been very happy with their service.

If you'd like, I can send you some size '0' caps to try with Lucky. Unfortunately, I've run out of the size '1'. I really need to put in an order, cuz I just used up my last '4' gelcaps last week too.

Just PM me and let me know!
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Pookie-poo View Post
Carolina...you and your kitties continue to be in my prayers daily. It seems that you are still being tested, doesn't it?

How much to you give Lucky at one time? One cc, 1/2 cc? I know when I give Cleo her liquid meds (pediatric iron drops, or Flagyl when she was on it) I put them into gelcaps immediately before giving it to her. This helped not only with the awful taste, it also prevents aspiration. Cleo is a pretty large cat at 15 pounds, but the largest gelcap that I'm able to use with her is a size '0'. It comfortably holds 0.7 cc (also called ml depending if your're medically trained.) The '1' size holds 1/2 cc. I order mine online (I'll include the link) but you can often also find the larger sizes '1', '0' and '00' in health food stores.

Here is where I purchase mine:
http://www.capsuline.com/index.php?cPath=1_5_6
I've been very happy with their service.

If you'd like, I can send you some size '0' caps to try with Lucky. Unfortunately, I've run out of the size '1'. I really need to put in an order, cuz I just used up my last '4' gelcaps last week too.

Just PM me and let me know!
I need to give her 1 cc - I have 000 caps here, but they hold too little... I have a good online source, but.... Can't wait... Any ideas where I can find these things locally? I would love to pill her instead of shooting this down her throat!
post #10 of 16
Try calling around to the local health food stores. Ask if they carry empty gelcaps. Be sure to ask for a size '0' or '00'. Be sure to check the size when you get there, because I bet the size '00' would be too big for Lucky.

I think you must have a size 3, because an actual size '000' is HUGE! and you'd never get that down a cat's throat (it would be okay for a dog.) I commonly use size 4 and 3 with my cats. The size 4 is about the size of a Benedryl capsule, the size 3 is just slightly larger.



Here's a picture of a #4 gel cap
post #11 of 16
one cc is a lot. Can you draw it up with something like tuna juice if she likes that? not great to give her but would help mask the taste. I did that with Archie and the Flagyl. It helped a little. But it would also be a lot of liquid.
post #12 of 16
If you could try and aim the meds into the back of her cheek, instead of her throat, that will help. You may have to get her into a bear-hug to do it,tho. It works very well with my girls, and they hate any kind of meds!
post #13 of 16
Or, I know you said the pill form tastes horrible, but if you put it in a Greenies Pill Pockets, would that work? My kitties HATE Greenies, yet they LOVE the Greenies Pill Pockets. Sven, my very pickiest, is currently taking antibiotics, and we just pop it into the Pill Pocket (sold at the Vet) and he gobbles it right up. It's nice and soft, so should be ok with Lucky just having dental work done.
post #14 of 16
Many health food stores carry small amounts of the empty capsules.. I just cuddle get meds in and then give a treat ...
post #15 of 16
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Hi guys... Thanks, but she is not taking pills... She is taking a liquid medicine, Clindamicyn...
We did have a better day today, thanks to my cat bag I am not squirting back on her throat anymore, as I am afraid of her aspirating it... So she just needs to deal with the awful bitter taste. I am squirting on the bottom of her mouth or her cheek, or wherever, slower, and waiting for her to swallow... She doesn't like it, but I figure it is safer...
I immediately give her some freeze dried salmon, and she looks a little lost for a minute or two, but recovers fast.

so... hopefully she will forgive me after this ordeal.
As far as pilling, yes, I do have greenies, and she likes it!
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by Carolina View Post
Hi guys... Thanks, but she is not taking pills... She is taking a liquid medicine, Clindamicyn...
We did have a better day today, thanks to my cat bag I am not squirting back on her throat anymore, as I am afraid of her aspirating it... So she just needs to deal with the awful bitter taste. I am squirting on the bottom of her mouth or her cheek, or wherever, slower, and waiting for her to swallow... She doesn't like it, but I figure it is safer...
I immediately give her some freeze dried salmon, and she looks a little lost for a minute or two, but recovers fast.

so... hopefully she will forgive me after this ordeal.
As far as pilling, yes, I do have greenies, and she likes it!
Ah yes the cat bag ... You and my vet talk so highly of and I will get as soon as the $$ allow...

She will forgive you ...

Maybe for next time ask if they can flavor the meds ... human pharmacies often do it for their kids and pets meds but I know a few vet s who have the ability
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