Our neighbours-long rant (sorry) and confusing

Oh my gosh I so need to get this off my chest before I explode. We have lived in our house almost 2 years, its rented from a housing association. When we first moved in I made friends with the lady next door as she is similar age to me and has 2 children close in age to my 3.Things were fine and we had a good friendship. Her fiancee is a bit...well, I can't say my personal opinion but I was always taking her out and buying her coffees e.t.c which friends do so I didn't mind, I did this as he would take the bank card to work with him and deprive her of money. She used to have to hide things if she bought anything new for herself, she told me some tings about him which even though we are no longer friends I would not divulge as she told me in confidence, the main thing though that she did tell me which is our problem at the minute is that he has a noise fear/problem. He text her one night while she was here and told her she had to get ome as the baby had woke up, she said couldn't he deal with her and he told her to get back before he threw her out of the window. I thought that was disgusting but she said he didn't mean it but she went home anyway.
A bit of background info, my hubbys sister used to date him about 7 years ago just a childhood thing and my hubby knew him to say hello to not personally and he was a big drug taker then, he isn't anymore but his fiancee told me that this is why he has a problem with noise and freaks if its too much, she told me that they had an old lady who lived above them in their old flat who was hard of hearing and he made her life hell by keep going up there and telling her to turn the tv down and reporting her to the landlord continously.
Hope you're still with me here, it gets more confusing Right so we were friends then on my birthday which is 22nd december 2008 (so right near christmas-season of good will and all that ) my hubby and I had some music on for about an hour before we went out for a meal, we do not hve wild parties and very rarely have music on. Anyway christmas eve we recieved a complaint from the housing association about our music saying we had it on continously all day and night?? I though no it couldn't be them they were supposed to be friends, I asked my other neighbour and she said no way and if she had any problems she would come straight to us.I did ask her (my friend) and she said yes it was him, I told her it was ridiculous and that we had music on for about an hour, she said she thought he had exaggerated and over reacted and she told us he monitors us by turning his tv on mute and listening at our wall to see what noise was coming through from us??
This made things a bit awkward but I still wanted to be her friend. Then she started talking to another girl and then after a couple of months she just started to ignore me, this deeply upset me but hey life goes on. I started talking to a couple of the other neighbours that are a similar age to me and we are all still friends, infact we get on with all the neighbours apart from them next door.
Heres the complicated bit, the friend who next door decided to dump me for also used to go out with my hubbys sister (infact she lived with him for a year) and this new friend hates my hubbys sister, therefore hates us. They started doing childish staring and trying to intimidate, so I complained to our landlord, he said our noise was too bad so we moved our tv and speakers (we have surround sound onto the other neighbours wall (she has never complained and says she hardly hears any noise) Then we ended up having to have a meeting with them. I tough we got stuff sorted and I chose just not to aknowledge them. Things have been quiet for about 4 months then out of the blue last week I noticed that the staring and the petty giggling had started again, not sure why as like i say I don't speak to them and neither do any of the other neighbours(they have put complaints in about nearly all of them). Then I got our street warden knocking at my door, he said nothing to worry about he just wanted to inform me that someone had put in a complaint about some rubbish in our garden and that the complainant knew we had rabbits as he said that they said the bin bags had rabbit bedding in, he said it was not one of the residents though. Now from the top of our back garden no one can see that we have a rabbit hutch. Our bins only get emptied once a fortnight and I do have a rubbish overflow but my husband makes weekly trips to the tip to get rid of them, our garden is not a flippin rubbish dump, we have 3 children who play out there.
Now I have been doing some detective work and they have put a cctv camera up next door and we have noticed that it has changed angles and its pointing in our garden, there is no way anyone would know we have a rabbit hutch unless they were next door. I know its her friend who reported us and I know they are starting again and for what reason I don't know. I have to go in for thyroid surgery on 20th April and i have been really unwell, I don't need all this, we keep ourselves to ourselves and have done nothing wrong.
I have emailed the housing officer and I am going to phone the council tomorrow, if we have to pay to have a bigger bin to keep the rubbish down then we will. I feel so upset and want to move, my hubby said no way is that happening and they aren't intimidating us, our housing officer said last time that if it continues then someone will get evicted. I hate living like this, we live on eggshells, if the kids are out in the garden I constantly tell them to keep the noise down and I try and not make eye contact with her so that she doesn't have anything on me. We even left facebook because of them putting threat and slagging us off on there. I feel like smacking her one (sorry) I am not violent but they have pushed me so far but I would not jepordise our tenancy. I just am worried as to what they will do next??
Thanks for reading if you have got this far. xx

Wow that is no way for a family to live with threats and intimidation. Is it legal for them to have a camera pointing into your yard. Thats invasion of privacy. They(he) could be watching your children playing which would be creepy. Do they have neighbors living on the other side of them or is it just you??

Boy I hope you can get this situation resolved and have some normalcy to your lives.

Hi, its a row of 10 houses, my friend who lives at the end house came over this afternoon and she said its definetely angled in our garden. I have looked it up and it is illegal, I have emailed the housing officer. I just don't want any more hassle and they keep getting away with things, we have been nothing but co-operative with them to keep the peace, we have even put bamboo fencing up on top of our fence so that we don't have to look at them. Its making me so down at the minute but they always seem to get off scot free as they are always the ones who are doing the complaining. Our other neighbours can't stand them why is it always the people just trying to get on with it who get victimised? I just wanta normal happy life and not have to watch what I do all the time. I told my other neighbour about the rubbish complaint, she was horrified, she said due to the bins only being emptied on a fortnightly basis there is alot of people in the same situation and atleast we dispose of it ourselves and correctly.No one else seems to have problems with us apart from them. I have really had enough, getting me to the point where I just want to go but hubby said don't let them win. x

I am so sorry that you are having to deal with all this stupid & petty behaviour on top of being unwell. Can you group together with the neighbours who you get on with and put a letter together to the housing association to outline how spiteful and unreasonable these people are being? Can you complain about the CCTV camera pointing at your garden? That seems like a complete invasion of your privacy to me. I can't see how your neighbours can justify that. I would not be happy about someone filming my back garden, especially as your children play there. I know you probably don't want to antagonise these people but I think you should speak to someone from the housing association to put your side of the story across.
Best of luck with it all and I hope you're feeling better soon.

Originally Posted by chinacat

I am so sorry that you are having to deal with all this stupid & petty behaviour on top of being unwell. Can you group together with the neighbours who you get on with and put a letter together to the housing association to outline how spiteful and unreasonable these people are being? Can you complain about the CCTV camera pointing at your garden? That seems like a complete invasion of your privacy to me. I can't see how your neighbours can justify that. I would not be happy about someone filming my back garden, especially as your children play there. I know you probably don't want to antagonise these people but I think you should speak to someone from the housing association to put your side of the story across.
Best of luck with it all and I hope you're feeling better soon.

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Hi, I have emailed our housing officer I think she will phone me tomorrow. I am just worried as last time she said that if it starts again then she would evict us both as its tit for tat and whatever we say they come back with something better, it really is that petty. I have made it quite clear though that I am ill and awaiting surgery so hopefully that may work in my favour a bit, that seems silly that I have to be ill to get my point accross. I know its more her friend, she is just a not very nice person at all. The camera will be sorted but they will move it as soon as they get a letter and then deny it, my friend has seen it though so I do have a witness.All our other neighbours would stick up for us if it came to the crunch so we do have that x

Originally Posted by Ruthyb

Hi, I have emailed our housing officer I think she will phone me tomorrow. I am just worried as last time she said that if it starts again then she would evict us both as its tit for tat

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The housing officer is being unfair. She sounds like a cold person.

Originally Posted by Ruthyb

Hi, I have emailed our housing officer I think she will phone me tomorrow. I am just worried as last time she said that if it starts again then she would evict us both as its tit for tat and whatever we say they come back with something better, it really is that petty. I have made it quite clear though that I am ill and awaiting surgery so hopefully that may work in my favour a bit, that seems silly that I have to be ill to get my point accross. I know its more her friend, she is just a not very nice person at all. The camera will be sorted but they will move it as soon as they get a letter and then deny it, my friend has seen it though so I do have a witness.All our other neighbours would stick up for us if it came to the crunch so we do have that x

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Why not take some pics of it from different angles to prove that it is pointed at your garden. Then you would have proof.

Hun if i was you i would speak to Citizens advice as well i think its them you need to speak to or its the other ones erm.. cant think of it right now, tell them everything that you have told the housing people and that they would possibly seek to evict they may just be able to help, i would also have a word with your local policeman i dunno if you have them walking around like we do up in the north just with you saying they have a cctv camera pointing into your garden

I don't really have any advice, just wanted to let you know I think your neighbors are lunatics. I hope you can get something done about them. Sending that everything works out. Having had horrible neighbors in the pat, I can understand what you're going thru.